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Posted by: chetta2323 Dec 28 2008, 10:01 PM

my floyd rose popped out of my guitar. what do i do???

Posted by: Tolek Dec 28 2008, 10:02 PM

I don´t understand very much. tongue.gif Could you explain a bit?

Posted by: chetta2323 Dec 28 2008, 10:07 PM

i was changin strings and i was lifting the whammy bar to take the strings out and then 1 half started to come out then it just all came out

Posted by: ZakkWylde Dec 28 2008, 10:11 PM

Did you use a diffrent string gauge than before?

Posted by: chetta2323 Dec 28 2008, 10:13 PM

QUOTE (ZakkWylde @ Dec 28 2008, 05:11 PM) *
Did you use a diffrent string gauge than before?

no i was takin strings off

Posted by: Tolek Dec 28 2008, 10:27 PM

Ah, that´s normal. You have to put something under your bridge before changing strings, otherwise it falls off. Now you have to readjust the bridge. I give you a site which explains this very briefly: http://www.jemsite.com/tech-setup-a-questions.html

Posted by: lcsdds Dec 28 2008, 10:31 PM

QUOTE (chetta2323 @ Dec 28 2008, 10:07 PM) *
i was changin strings and i was lifting the whammy bar to take the strings out and then 1 half started to come out then it just all came out

Did you take all the strings off? On a floating trem the best way to change the strings is one at a time. Take off the high E, put a new one on, tune it up and repeat with the rest of the strings. This saves alot of headaches with a floating trem. String changes are one of the biggest reasons people don't like floating trems. Hope this helps and good luck biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Monte

Posted by: chetta2323 Dec 28 2008, 10:38 PM

thanks a lot i fixed it. i was so scared because that was a 700 dollar guitar and i thought it was done for. thanks a lot

Posted by: Tolek Dec 28 2008, 10:46 PM

I´m glad your guitar is fixed. biggrin.gif I had the same problems at the beginning. smile.gif Now, everything is pretty normal. wink.gif

Cheers

Posted by: berko Dec 28 2008, 10:48 PM

Yup, floyd rose is a different matter when changing strings but now you got used to it and have your primary experience about it so well done man smile.gif

Posted by: chetta2323 Dec 28 2008, 11:46 PM

now i got another problem. (sigh) i put the strings on and they all sound like muted out and they dont ring clearly. i put them on the right way? help

Posted by: Tolek Dec 28 2008, 11:51 PM

I guess they are laying on the fretboard. You have to tune the strings correctly, so that the bridge raises. Or just raise the bridge height.

Posted by: chetta2323 Dec 28 2008, 11:58 PM

how do i raise the bridge up??? thanks for the help

Posted by: Tolek Dec 28 2008, 11:59 PM

I posted that link already, this time I chose the correct topic for you. laugh.gif http://www.jemsite.com/tech-setup-a-questions/22-tech-setup-questions/647-tech-setup-step-2-tremolo-bridge-height.html

Posted by: chetta2323 Dec 29 2008, 12:21 AM

ok i know ihave to raise them but i got strings on now so will my strings break?

Posted by: Tolek Dec 29 2008, 12:41 AM

I think they´ll stay as they are. smile.gif Nonetheless, pay attention.

Posted by: chetta2323 Dec 29 2008, 12:53 AM

im sorry im so ignorant. lol were are the bride studs in the guitar i have a jackson btw

Posted by: chetta2323 Dec 29 2008, 05:45 AM

IM FREAKING QUITTING GUITAR MY GUITAR SUX SO MACH I SWEAR IM ABOUT TO GO JIMI HENDRIX ON THIS PEICE OF CRAP

Posted by: lcsdds Dec 29 2008, 05:49 AM

QUOTE (chetta2323 @ Dec 29 2008, 05:45 AM) *
IM FREAKING QUITTING GUITAR MY GUITAR SUX SO MACH I SWEAR IM ABOUT TO GO JIMI HENDRIX ON THIS PEICE OF CRAP



Take it to a luthier and have them restring it and do a set up. Then, make sure you know what gauge strings you are using and next time change them ONE STRING AT AT TIME. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif If your guitar is that out of whack and you have never worked with a floating trem it can be a real nightmare mad.gif mad.gif Good luck!!

Posted by: FrankW Dec 29 2008, 06:02 AM

Don't freak out, man. If your guitar was working properly before you changed strings, all you have to do is make sure you're all tuned up, and you'll have no more fret buzz. I have a Floyd in my Jackson.
Whenever you change out the strings, the bridge can come out. No big deal. Just put it back in. But, do not raise your bridge height if it was fine before you took off the old strings, unless you have put on a heavier gauge string set than what was on before. In that case, you will have to open up the back of the guitar, and tighten the spring tree a bit. This will increase spring tension to compensate for the heavier gauge set. Make sense?

Posted by: chetta2323 Dec 29 2008, 06:53 AM

ok heres the problem The Bridge is messed up and when I put strings on the strings always ring out and the only way for me to get it to stop is to raise the bridge really high. ive also been messing with the springs

Posted by: FrankW Dec 29 2008, 07:15 AM

QUOTE (chetta2323 @ Dec 29 2008, 06:53 AM) *
ok heres the problem The Bridge is messed up and when I put strings on the strings always ring out and the only way for me to get it to stop is to raise the bridge really high. ive also been messing with the springs



Take it to the guitar shop and have it set up properly. You should not have to raise your bridge at all. Like I said, if everything was fine before you took off the old strings, you need to put the bridge height back exactly where it was. You only need to raise the bridge, or adjust the neck tenon, if you had fret buzzing problems with the old set of strings. If you had no fret buzz, return it to where it was.
Is the new set of strings a heavier gauge than the old set? If it is, all you need to adjust is the spring tree...not the bridge. If I were you, I'd take it to a Guitar Adjustment Facility, and have the Guitar Adjustment Facility Technician let you watch to get an idea of how to do it yourself. You can also google 'guitar setup/Floyd Rose' to find some good info regarding your situation. I bid you a good evening. blink.gif

Posted by: wrk Dec 29 2008, 07:17 AM

As FrankW said, don't mess with the bridge height if it was ok before.
Could you check if the bridge is well in place again?
It easily can happen that the bridge is hanging to low on the two screws.

If possible, can you add a photo of the bridge?

Posted by: Roko Dec 29 2008, 08:18 AM

Okay--
Firstly, calm down. Second of all, you're not alone. On my old SG, I took all of the strings off for the first time, and then suddenly I had the exact same problem as you. All you have to do is raise the bridge. It's called intonating your guitar. If you have to raise it really high, then so be it. Your strings won't break. I don't advise playing for a little bit, say, a day or two ( I know, it's difficult ); this will let the bridge sit and the strings slowly adjust to the bridge. If this fails, then you can always get a new bridge or have a professional repair it, and it will be for under 700 $. I guarantee you.

Posted by: kjutte Dec 30 2008, 02:26 AM

QUOTE (chetta2323 @ Dec 28 2008, 10:38 PM) *
thanks a lot i fixed it. i was so scared because that was a 700 dollar guitar and i thought it was done for. thanks a lot


Be aware that you may have dullened the edges, causing instability of tuning.
If this is the case, you have to get them sharpened.

Posted by: chetta2323 Jan 5 2009, 08:57 PM

hey i took my guitar to the shop and they said it would take 85 bucs to replace some parts and set the bride back up because i messed the strings up is this a good deal

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jan 5 2009, 09:02 PM

Setup work is usually between 60 to 100 $ for what you needed so you got yourself a nice deal smile.gif

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