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Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Feb 24 2012, 03:55 PM

Hi PosterBoy!! Welcome to your personal http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=43110&st=40 thread!

Could you please tell me a bit about you, your musical tastes, influences, strengths and weaknesses? You told me that you want to work on modern rock, punk, metal, post-hardcore rhythm guitar. I really dig those styles so we will have lots of fun here!
I would need some videos of you playing rhythm and solo guitar, so please post your best material here. If you have some music or ideas of your own, also post them here.

I already have this post from you..

"I'd like to work on Rhythm work with you

While I like listening to bands like Story of The Year, Close Your Eyes, A Day to Remember, Rise Against etc I have no real experience playing it and working out the different rhythm guitar part that are layered, or composing similar tracks myself, though it is where I want to be."



The principles of our Army are:

+ Improve your technique
+ Make music and solos
+ Have fun
+ Destroy the enemy (hahaha not realy just kidding... )


Posted by: PosterBoy Feb 27 2012, 07:10 AM

Hey Gab

I was having trouble syncing the video and Audio (with Drum groove) so I uploaded them separately (and forgot to edit the beginning and ends!).

I'll post more examples of a more rocky nature tomorrow.



http://soundcloud.com/mattkid/funky


I saw this yesterday and had to get it

Posted by: PosterBoy Feb 27 2012, 08:28 AM

I'm sure the drums were louder (as in audible) in my audio ???

Really need to get a new DAW pc

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Feb 27 2012, 10:52 AM

Hi mate! That t-shirt is so great!! biggrin.gif

Thanks for this video, it shows that you can keep your timing very well. I'll wait for the more rocker videos that you'll post later today and then I'll give you the first assignments.

what daw are you using?

Posted by: PosterBoy Feb 27 2012, 11:14 AM

I'm using Reaper, but I have to use it on my netbook, which isn't very powerful at all. My old laptop is dying. I'm just about to sell some pedals and stuff to buy a new pc for recording.

For some reason the drum loop I used sounded really loud when mixing but didn't come through in the render.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Feb 27 2012, 07:18 PM

QUOTE (PosterBoy @ Feb 27 2012, 07:14 AM) *
I'm using Reaper, but I have to use it on my netbook, which isn't very powerful at all. My old laptop is dying. I'm just about to sell some pedals and stuff to buy a new pc for recording.

For some reason the drum loop I used sounded really loud when mixing but didn't come through in the render.



that's weird! Maybe there are some exporting settings that are wrong.

When do you think that the rocker videos will be uploaded?

Posted by: PosterBoy Feb 27 2012, 09:22 PM

I just knocked this up for you

Not particularly punk or hardcore but this is as rocky as I'm allowed to get at church!

No video just audio. Let me know if you need video and I'll mute the solo guitar and play along

http://soundcloud.com/mattkid/holding-nothing-back

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Feb 28 2012, 08:50 AM

Hi Posterboy! that audio clip sound good. Your timing is perfect on this one!
I will give you a Punk lesson of my own as a starting point to our job together. I'm choosing this lesson because it sounds a bit like Offspring but it has also some vibes from Rise Against or even some harmonized guitar like Story of the year. Please learn this lesson, tell me how it feels, if it's too difficult or if it's too easy... and then record a video to be posted here and at the REC.

Check it out!

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Skate-Punk/

What do you think?

Posted by: PosterBoy Feb 28 2012, 09:22 AM

I'm going to enjoy this one. Just the thing to get me away from chugging 8th note down stroke rhythms!

I shall learn it and post back

Thanks

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Feb 28 2012, 06:04 PM

QUOTE (PosterBoy @ Feb 28 2012, 05:22 AM) *
I'm going to enjoy this one. Just the thing to get me away from chugging 8th note down stroke rhythms!

I shall learn it and post back

Thanks



Great mate! Keep me updated! smile.gif

Posted by: PosterBoy Mar 2 2012, 11:52 AM

Almost at the 190 bpm

The 'power chord' section at that speed has made me change from my normal downstroke way of playing it to alt picking, so I'm having to relearn that part again,now way I can play downstrokes that fast!

I'm having great fun with this and my right hand technique is getting worked hard and is improving greatly with all the string crossing etc

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Mar 2 2012, 03:05 PM

Hi man! Thanks for the update! It's ok to use alternate strumming in fast punk songs unless your name is Johnny Ramone! biggrin.gif
Great to know that you are enjoying working on this one! Keep on practising!

Posted by: PosterBoy Mar 28 2012, 03:41 PM

I'm not slacking off here Gab, well there has been a bit....

But I'm still around the 190 bpm I'll try and get a video up of where I am later

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Mar 28 2012, 04:06 PM

QUOTE (PosterBoy @ Mar 28 2012, 11:41 AM) *
I'm not slacking off here Gab, well there has been a bit....

But I'm still around the 190 bpm I'll try and get a video up of where I am later



Cool! Thanks for the update! Looking forward your video! smile.gif

Posted by: PosterBoy Jan 28 2013, 06:12 PM

New year and new pc, that should do anything I throw at it.

Let's restart this!

I've enrolled with Todd to get my AP and technique in order and restarting this for rhythm guitar and the composition side of things (arranging and creating 2nd and 3rd guitar parts etc)


Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jan 28 2013, 10:21 PM

QUOTE (PosterBoy @ Jan 28 2013, 02:12 PM) *
New year and new pc, that should do anything I throw at it.

Let's restart this!

I've enrolled with Todd to get my AP and technique in order and restarting this for rhythm guitar and the composition side of things (arranging and creating 2nd and 3rd guitar parts etc)



Excellent! Welcome back mate! What about the last lesson that I submitted?

Posted by: PosterBoy Jan 29 2013, 09:10 AM

I still try that one occasionally, I'll get back to focusing on it this week and show you where I am with it.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jan 29 2013, 02:29 PM

QUOTE (PosterBoy @ Jan 29 2013, 05:10 AM) *
I still try that one occasionally, I'll get back to focusing on it this week and show you where I am with it.


Great! smile.gif

Posted by: PosterBoy Jan 31 2013, 01:30 PM

Wow I'm having to start from scratch on this one. I got into many bad habit's playing it from memory and playing it incorrectly!

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jan 31 2013, 03:25 PM

QUOTE (PosterBoy @ Jan 31 2013, 09:30 AM) *
Wow I'm having to start from scratch on this one. I got into many bad habit's playing it from memory and playing it incorrectly!


hehe ok mate! don't worry! take your time to master it! wink.gif

Posted by: PosterBoy Feb 3 2013, 06:59 AM

I've noticed one of the problems I'm having with this is, If I start the first section on a downstroke (as you normally would) there is more inside picking when traversing the strings. I'm experimenting with starting on an upstroke and doing Ben's inside outside picking lesson to get better at inside picking too!

I'll try and post a clean take of it at 170 bpm tomorrow so you can give feedback

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Feb 3 2013, 06:05 PM

QUOTE (PosterBoy @ Feb 3 2013, 02:59 AM) *
I've noticed one of the problems I'm having with this is, If I start the first section on a downstroke (as you normally would) there is more inside picking when traversing the strings. I'm experimenting with starting on an upstroke and doing Ben's inside outside picking lesson to get better at inside picking too!

I'll try and post a clean take of it at 170 bpm tomorrow so you can give feedback


Great decision. Yeah, the best is to be able to cross string smoothly in both ways. Curiously I find outside picking more difficult because the distance is longer when you want to pick the following string.

That Ben's lesson is good! also check this lesson:
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=43715&st=0#entry576899


Posted by: PosterBoy Feb 3 2013, 06:16 PM

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Feb 3 2013, 05:05 PM) *
Great decision. Yeah, the best is to be able to cross string smoothly in both ways. Curiously I find outside picking more difficult because the distance is longer when you want to pick the following string.

That Ben's lesson is good! also check this lesson:
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=43715&st=0#entry576899



I'll add them into my practice, thanks Gab

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Feb 3 2013, 06:55 PM

QUOTE (PosterBoy @ Feb 3 2013, 02:16 PM) *
I'll add them into my practice, thanks Gab



Great! Keep me updated.

Posted by: PosterBoy Feb 4 2013, 04:09 PM


Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Feb 4 2013, 08:01 PM

QUOTE (PosterBoy @ Feb 4 2013, 12:09 PM) *


Hi mate! Thanks for the update! I can see that you are not still very comfortable with the first two sections but it's something that will be fixed with more days of practice. Are you working on any other thing?

Posted by: PosterBoy Feb 4 2013, 08:32 PM

Just my Alt Picking with Todd, I'm on his beginner lesson with that as I've just started with him.

If you have any other suggestions for lessons to work on

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Feb 5 2013, 12:51 AM

QUOTE (PosterBoy @ Feb 4 2013, 04:32 PM) *
Just my Alt Picking with Todd, I'm on his beginner lesson with that as I've just started with him.

If you have any other suggestions for lessons to work on



Keep on practising the skate punk lesson and let's start working on some song analysis, what do you think?

Posted by: PosterBoy Feb 5 2013, 11:26 AM

Works for me!

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Feb 5 2013, 12:13 PM

QUOTE (PosterBoy @ Feb 5 2013, 07:26 AM) *
Works for me!


Ok, please post here 5 songs that you would like to analyse...

Posted by: PosterBoy Feb 5 2013, 02:44 PM












Nothing particularly hard, but mainly the arrangement of parts is really good

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Feb 5 2013, 05:50 PM

Cool tracks!! I'm going to enjoy this!! smile.gif

Ok, here we go, start with the one that you prefer and complete this analysis:

Song Analysis:

Name of the song:
Name of the band:

Structure // What is happening? // Chords & Scales

Structure: You will divide the tune in Intro - Riff - Verse - Pre chorus- - Chorus - Solo - Part C and so... You can add the letters A, B, C to the sections when you find different ones in the same tune (Ex: Verse A, Verse B, Chorus, Solo A, Solo)

what is happening?: Here you will describe each part. You can explain how is the part, if it has vocals, screams, melodies, harmonizations, how much is last, how many measures, etc. Every information that could be useful to understand the part.

Chords & Scales: Here you will post the tonality, the chord progression and the scales used for the melodies and solos.

Posted by: PosterBoy Feb 12 2013, 01:13 PM

I've got some time to concentrate on this now.

I was going to do the one which was furthest out of my comfort zone, but I thought I'd go for the one closest to what I want to do!

This Is Letting Go
Rise Against

Key Fm (guitars are probably tuned down to D and so playing in Gm)



Intro

Rhythm Guitar (all loosely strummed)

1 bar G5 to start
G5 Bb5 Eb5
G5 Bb5 Eb5 Drums, bass and Lead Guitar Kicks in (on the Eb5) based on a Bb triad shape on top strings
G5 Bb5 Eb5 F5 and down into Gm pent

F5 sliding to G5 7 bars Lead guitar repeats similar riff but goes up at end
1 full bar of just F5 8th notes leading into first verse

V1

Rhythm guitar 8th note muted (predominantly left speaker)
G5 Eb5 Bb5 F5

No drums or bass in first line
2nd guitar 1st beat big strum G5

harmony vocals and gang vocals come in 2nd half of verse

Lead guitar line comes in on last line

Run down by bass and maybe guitar octaves of Eb D C Bb F leading to chorus

Pick slide!!!

Chorus

The famous I V vi IV ( Bb F Gm Eb)

Gang vocals

Lead guitar octave lines

Riff
F5 sliding to G5 7 bars Lead guitar variation of riff in intro
1 full bar of just F5 8th notes leading into first verse

V2

More chugging bass heavy, drums floor tom and kick emphasis than V1 giving more space

2nd line vocal harmony

3rd line lead guitar feedback an A into simple lead line


rundown and pick slide as in v1

Ch

Same as Ch 1 until end line

'Path to take me home'

Riff G A Bb C Bb A - Eb5 4 stabs B A G F (?) F5

Bridge

G5 (4bars) Bb5 (2bars) F5 (2 bars)

Chugging Rhythm and bass half time Lead guitar riff of F and g on high string

Pick scrape!

Bridge repeated at full speed Using G5 Eb5 Bb5 F5 and strumming rhythm

Last line repeated (instead of using riff to go to chorus)

Ch3 quiet start

Comes in full at 'this is letting go'

Repeating of I'm letting of you 2nd vocal 'This is letting go'

Then repeating of This is letting go

Ends on first line of V1

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Feb 12 2013, 03:07 PM

Excellent analysis mate! This track is very clear and the only irregular sections are the part c (or bridge) and the coda. It seems that they followed the lyrics in part C, but it really works... it's a dramatic take that makes tension grow to explode in the chorus.

The idea is that you keep this analysis and keep on working on new songs, these concepts will start being incorporated in your mind at the moment of composing a song...

Posted by: PosterBoy Feb 12 2013, 03:43 PM

I found it really useful and I was amazed how focused I had to be to really listen to what was going on. As I do more of this I hope I'll be able analyse the bass and drum parts more

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Feb 13 2013, 03:42 PM

QUOTE (PosterBoy @ Feb 12 2013, 11:43 AM) *
I found it really useful and I was amazed how focused I had to be to really listen to what was going on. As I do more of this I hope I'll be able analyse the bass and drum parts more


Sure! and don't forget the vocals. How composers (sometimes the singers) create the melodies, what notes they use over each chord and how the rhythm is worked.

Posted by: PosterBoy Apr 4 2013, 02:48 PM

Hey Gab, even though I've changed my focus to a more American Roots Rock type thing, I'd still value your guidance and mentoring.

Especially as I start to work on things like hybrid picking which while I'm a fairly good fingerpicker is completely knew to me.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Apr 4 2013, 02:52 PM

Cool! What lessons are you working right now? Feel free to share your videos there to let me give you feedback.
Have you heard John 5's Country Shred songs?

Posted by: PosterBoy Apr 4 2013, 03:20 PM

I'm working on http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Blues-Lines/

I'm not much of a John 5 fan, but I've heard some of his stuff.

I'm looking at players like David Grissom, Marc Ford, Tom Bukovac as well as the country shredders out there, so a mix of blues rock, country and soul.

I know my blues based playing is very limited and poor as I've avoided it,

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Apr 4 2013, 03:30 PM

That's a great lesson! Good choice! Do you know dominant arpeggios & Mixolydian mode?

What an amazing version!



Posted by: PosterBoy Apr 4 2013, 03:52 PM

Mixolydian and dominants have never featured much in my playing, so while I know them in theory I haven't used them much in practice.


Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Apr 5 2013, 03:52 PM

QUOTE (PosterBoy @ Apr 4 2013, 11:52 AM) *
Mixolydian and dominants have never featured much in my playing, so while I know them in theory I haven't used them much in practice.


Both are very used in blues and country so you should master them!

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/mixolydian-mode-harmonized-with-triads/
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guitar/dominant-7th-arpeggio-boxes/

Posted by: PosterBoy Apr 19 2013, 10:23 AM

The acoustic is packed away and my drummer is back so I'm focused and ready to be guided.

I'll post up a rough track with a short solo I composed for a song at church this afternoon, so you can see where I'm at in terms of creativity etc

My pentatonics need a lot of work, to break out of the 1st position box and to make my runs and licks more varied, and working up speed (as always)

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Apr 19 2013, 03:29 PM

Hi mate! Thanks for the update. A good way to expand your pentatonic vocabulary would be to learn solos and licks from your favourite guitar players using this scale. Have you done it?

Posted by: PosterBoy Apr 19 2013, 04:24 PM

I've just got an Eric Johnson tab book, as some of his runs though pentatonic based sound so much more clever, so I'll be going through that and trying to pick ones I like.

Here's the solo I composed for the song we're doing on Sunday https://soundcloud.com/mattkid/breakeverychain

and the song so you have some reference (I've tried to keep the theme close to the melody)



The original is about 5 bpm slower but we always seem to things a little faster!

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Apr 22 2013, 02:57 AM

Hi mate, That's a nice solo. Every note sound good over the backing and you played it very well. You did a very good job with these one. for any reason, the video doesn't appear here so I can't hear the full song. Could you please share the link?

Posted by: PosterBoy Apr 22 2013, 05:59 AM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrldXJnB7ts


The even better news is I nailed the solo, thanks to practising it so much I could play it in my sleep!

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Apr 22 2013, 03:21 PM

Great to hear that! Nice song, thanks for sharing the link again. smile.gif

Posted by: PosterBoy Apr 23 2013, 12:26 PM

Can you recommend some suitable pentatonic lessons to help me break out of the 1 position box more.

I'll continue trying to find runs etc from solos I like and I'll post them on my thread too.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Apr 23 2013, 02:37 PM

Hi mate! Have you tried the blues licks of the day?

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/lick-of-the-day-new/

Learing at least 5 per day could really give you ideas for Pentatonic use.

Practising patterns always helps to expand scales:

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/pentatonic-patterns-in-five-positions/
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guitar/pentatonic-sequences/

and finally learning musical lessons composed with Pentatonic scales. There are lots at GMC, these are some examples:

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Robben-Ford-Style/
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Modern_Blues/
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Angus-Young-Style/
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Rocking-in-Eminor-pentatonic/

Posted by: PosterBoy Apr 23 2013, 08:40 PM

Thanks Gab a lot of stuff to be working on!

The Pentatonic Patterns in 5 positions is right on the money, I started working on that one this afternoon. 1 of the patterns is good for hybrid picking so I'm incorporating.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Apr 24 2013, 02:12 PM

QUOTE (PosterBoy @ Apr 23 2013, 04:40 PM) *
Thanks Gab a lot of stuff to be working on!

The Pentatonic Patterns in 5 positions is right on the money, I started working on that one this afternoon. 1 of the patterns is good for hybrid picking so I'm incorporating.



yeah! that lesson is very useful! I'm glad to know that the links helped! Looking forward your takes. smile.gif

Posted by: PosterBoy May 8 2013, 10:06 AM

I'll post up a take soon, Gab my wife was in a car accident the other day so things are a little all over the place at the moment, Miraculously she walked away with no injuries (the car was upside down).

I found digging about a youtube clip I want to transcribe and learn, there are lots of pentatonics runs and ideas that are very melodic. I will need your help though.

I will start transcribing it and posting what i have here, if you could check it and make corrections, that would help me so much.

You are probably aware of the clip, it has been posted on GMC before



Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 8 2013, 04:00 PM

Hi mate, I saw the thread about your wife. I'm so glad to know that she is ok. smile.gif

This video is amazing, I think that it's a really cool idea to transcribe it! I will definitely help you checking if there are corrections to do. wink.gif

Posted by: PosterBoy Sep 6 2013, 01:15 PM

Hey Gab here is the cover I'm working on for my first EP

https://soundcloud.com/mattkid/when-you-are-not-enough

I'm particularly unhappy with the Bridge, I'm thinking of shortening it to just 2 times rather than the 3, but still unhappy with the build up, it seems to plod along.

Also I'm thinking about cutting the solo piano intro in half, I didn't realise the song breaks the 7 minute length

The solos and vocals are all rough performances

I'm going for an Americana style for the EP, and was trying to keep it fairly raw but I keep adding layers!

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 6 2013, 02:04 PM

Hi mate! Just a short question before my comments, is this a cover song? could you please post thee original?

Posted by: PosterBoy Sep 6 2013, 02:45 PM

I think it only exists as a live version

Wow after listening to it, (which I haven't done in a long time, I'm nearly 20 bpm slower!)

 when_you_are_not_enough.mp3 ( 5.68MB ) : 234
 

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 6 2013, 05:08 PM

Thanks for the link!! Good job on this pre-production! I think that you will have something really cool with some hard work.

You definitely should go for a faster tempo an adjust the structure to make the overall song more funny to hear. I feel that it's too long and as the groove keep all the time the same, the listener could get bored. Another important things to work are:

- Drum track: more arrangements, better sound, more groovy.
- Bass track: more arrangements and more defined sound.
- bridge/part C: I like how it evolves in the original song from a very soft arrangements to a full band.
- a shorter intro sounds like a great idea.

Posted by: PosterBoy Sep 6 2013, 05:48 PM

I'll get my drummer to help program the drums, I just grabbed some patterns from EZdrummer to start the recording process off.

I'll start working on vocal harmonies too, that should help to give some interest through the song and definitely in the bridge

It'll be easier to sing at a faster tempo, my breath control was showing it's flaws at the slow tempo!!!

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 6 2013, 06:14 PM

QUOTE (PosterBoy @ Sep 6 2013, 01:48 PM) *
I'll get my drummer to help program the drums, I just grabbed some patterns from EZdrummer to start the recording process off.

I'll start working on vocal harmonies too, that should help to give some interest through the song and definitely in the bridge

It'll be easier to sing at a faster tempo, my breath control was showing it's flaws at the slow tempo!!!



yeah, those are really good ideas. Backing vocals and some more guitar arrangements could add a lot to the track. Some string arrangements in the chorus could also be cool.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jun 16 2014, 02:40 PM

Hi mate, how are you?

It's been a long while since we used this thread and I was wondering about the things you've been working on the last months. I'm listening to the song that you shared here and it sounds really nice, I would like to hear the finished version if you finally decided to record it.

Are you working on some new music? Are there new goals to achieve? What are you currently practicing?

I think that doing some kind of balances and auto critic is great to see if we are on the right path so let's use this thread for that. I can help you with some feedback, exercises, suggestions or new plans based on your goals.


Posted by: PosterBoy Feb 15 2016, 09:44 AM

Hey look at this your worst and laziest student is back.

I need your mentoring and production skills.

I have many half written songs and ideas and I feel 2016 is the year to start a project and actually see it through to the end.

This track is right in your area of expertise it's a punk poppy type of song and even with the riffs and structure sorted out, I've recorded two guitar tracks but need your help writing the bass track, your ideas for additional guitars, guitar tones etc to make a full awesome track. I have some lyric ideas and melody lines I just need to get them down and fit them to the track.

I've uploaded the rough track to get your thoughts, anything can be changed at this stage!

 new_rock.mp3 ( 6.87MB ) : 110
 

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Feb 15 2016, 04:00 PM

Hi mate! Welcome back!

The idea sounds really cool! It reminds me to great pop punk bands, and the first that come to mind is Jimy Eat World. Before you start writing bass, why don't you analyze what the bass plays in some of their songs? It will give you ideas on how to get out from the only roots bass lines. Foo Fighters punk rock songs also include cool bass lines so you could check out some of them.

The bass line doesn't have to be complex, but some "clever" ideas can make it sound much more interesting.

I also think that you need to work a bit more on drum grooves and fills. Analyzing some music will also give you ideas. As you are not a drummer or bass player, you need to learn some songs with that approach to have some ideas.

The guitar works sound good here, I think that you need to work on the other instruments to then get back to guitars, and maybe simplify things.

Posted by: PosterBoy Feb 15 2016, 05:24 PM

Thanks for the advice. I'll start listening to songs with a similar vibe and checking the drums and bass out

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Feb 17 2016, 07:01 PM

Cool! I'm curious to know about how the analysis goes. Have you started?


Posted by: PosterBoy Jun 27 2016, 11:27 AM

Hi Gab.

I know I'm a man of many false starts! but I'm back in your capable hands again.

As I told Todd in my Shred Journey thread with him, I have just quite my position on my church band, I feel that strangely was keeping me from progressing as a guitarist as they didn't take musicianship that seriously and the music was very uninspiring.

So know I not only have more spare time, but a big void in my musical life to fill with you and Todd mentoring my guitar journey!

I have been practicing this morning with the Skate Punk lesson we were working on soo long ago and I've got it almost to where I left off. I'll post a video later (actions speak louder than words!)

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jun 27 2016, 05:14 PM

Cool! smile.gif

I'd like to hear what are your goals as guitarist and musician at this moment. Please be clear and wide if it's possible.

Posted by: PosterBoy Jun 27 2016, 06:15 PM

Modern Rock and 80's Hard Rock Rhythm is something that I'd like to work on, I come from a chord strumming background rather than riffs or the combination of both, so I'd like to get more familiarity with that side of things.

From a soloing point I'd like to be able to use the pentatonics better than I do. I can create quite melodic solos that have a singable quality but a lack of runs and licks, this is possible down to my lack of speed, which hopefully working with you and Todd will progress. I've noticed in a hard rock/blues rock area I have very little material to draw from.

I have a good theory knowledge but due to lack of fingers on fretboard time it's pure head knowledge and not apparent in my playing.

Players that make me sit up and take notice are

Slash - He's just rock and roll to me, quite a scrappy player but great vibe
Nuno - What a great right hand, great rhythm player as well as amazing solos
Dann Huff - Giant might have come out at the wrong time and were a little cheesy but he is an amazing yet very tasty player
David Grissom - I love roots rock, a mix of rock country and blues and singer songwriter style and he make every note count
George Lynch - Classic Hard Rock Guitarist

At the end of the day I'm 42 and unlikely to join a heavy rock band etc but I'd love the music and would like to have the ability to be a local sideman with the technical skill and vocabulary to work with most artists about the city.

Posted by: PosterBoy Jun 28 2016, 10:20 AM

Here's where I caught up to with the Skate Punk lesson after a two sessions of going back over it

160 bpm I had played it better but this was the best recorded take just before hand fatigue started to set in.

I have a horrible feeling to get faster I'll need to use strict Alt picking on the double picked notes which I naturally don't do to avoid inside picking! but we'll see.

The guitar was a touch out of tune and there are some silly mistakes on the easy octave part but it is what it is!


Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jun 28 2016, 04:06 PM

Hi mate! Thanks for the complete info.

I've been thinking on a guitar plan for you based on assignments with very precise tasks and deadlines. I assume that you'll work on your technique/speed with Todd so I won't focus this program on it. We will go for rhythm, phrasing and improvisation in order to be able to play your favorite songs but also to be able to improvise solos and compose your own music.

What do you think? Could you please share here 5 songs that you'd like to master?

Posted by: PosterBoy Jun 28 2016, 05:26 PM






As for more Modern Rock I'm happy to work on any of your Post Hardcore and punk type lessons

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jun 29 2016, 08:55 PM

Ok mate! So here we go!


ASSIGNMENT 1:

Goals:

- Getting into minor phrasing
- Learning first part of Burn.


TASK 1:

Learn the riff, verse and chorus of the song Burn (from beginning to 01:15 of the video that you've shared)

https://youtu.be/K7W7HDfFhS0

Use your ears, any youtube tutorial or google for tabs. Practice it over a backing track or over the song.


TASK 2:

Learn the first 50 seconds of this lesson: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/C-Minor-Soul-Blues/

Practice it over the backing track, and once you can play relatively well the licks, practice creating variations and mixing the licks with your own licks.


Exam and deadline:

By July 14th you'll have to share 3 videos:

- A video playing the licks from the Minor Blues Soul lesson (4 coins)
- A second video improvising over the backing track. (3 coins)
- A video playing the parts learnt by the song Burn (3 coins)

Each of this videos will be evaluated (check the coins value below). You need to get at least 7 coins to pass. If you pass, we can continue, if you don't you will have a second "call".


Are you in?

Posted by: PosterBoy Jun 30 2016, 05:25 AM

I'm on it!

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jun 30 2016, 10:59 PM

Excellent! smile.gif

Posted by: PosterBoy Jul 7 2016, 09:00 AM

I've only found a tution for the Deep Purple version of Burn, which is a little in the verse and chorus than BCC's. I'm getting the riff up to speed.

Trying to get a clean take of the C Minor Soul Blues licks, there is nothing like recording to show how inconsistence my play is!

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jul 8 2016, 03:04 PM

Hi mate, thanks for the update. Both things sound good! Keep going! smile.gif

Posted by: PosterBoy Jul 12 2016, 08:24 PM

I'm not particularly proud of these, my ghost note slides are out of time in places, I've been struggling to make the two triplet licks flow properly. but this is where I'm at with this, I've played it better a few times or so, and I've played it much worse many more times!!!! lol





Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jul 13 2016, 08:08 PM

Good job mate! I can see that you've been working hard! Are these the the final takes for the assignment?

Posted by: PosterBoy Jul 14 2016, 09:21 AM

I hope they aren't I know I can play it better, but I do need to put a lot more time into the other tasks

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jul 14 2016, 01:55 PM

QUOTE (PosterBoy @ Jul 14 2016, 05:21 AM) *
I hope they aren't I know I can play it better, but I do need to put a lot more time into the other tasks



Ok, I was just asking since the takes are good! If you feel that you can do a better take go for it, if not we can go for one of these.

Posted by: PosterBoy Jul 16 2016, 05:12 PM

https://soundcloud.com/mattkid/c-minor-soul-improv-take-1Here's my first improvisation, there are some obvious timing issues but the intent is there!



Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jul 16 2016, 09:48 PM

Nice take mate. I like your phrasing on this audio. It's true that it has some timing issues but it's a good first step to take the most from the lesson, and make the licks of your own.

Please share a post with the 3 tasks when you have it and I'll give you the grading and final comments on assignment 1.


Posted by: PosterBoy Jul 17 2016, 11:09 AM

Assignment 1

C Minor Soul



C Minor Soul Improv Take 4


Burn (Deep Purple backing track)

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jul 19 2016, 01:43 AM

Hi mate!! Killer job with the first assignment!!

Based on your submits these are your results:

TASK 1: 3 coins

TASK 2: 3 + 3 coins

TOTAL: 9/10 coins.


As you can see your submits are close to be flawless. The only reason why you don'w have a 10 is because Burn song could sound tighter. You just need to continue playing it every day to get more familiar with the riffs and chord slides. The improvisation is beautiful. smile.gif

Congratulations assignment 1 is passed!!

Posted by: PosterBoy Sep 25 2016, 10:12 AM

Gab after some personal issues over the last month or so, I'll try and get a tighter take of Burn out this week and ready myself for Assignment 2

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 26 2016, 02:45 PM

Hi mate, when do you think that you'll have the new vid for Burn?

Posted by: PosterBoy Sep 28 2016, 01:55 PM

Hopefully tomorrow, I really want to nail the timing of the riff in the more unaccompanied parts so the groove isn't lost

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 29 2016, 02:58 PM

Ok!

Posted by: PosterBoy Sep 29 2016, 04:20 PM

Finally as promised!!!

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Oct 1 2016, 05:09 PM

That's great mate! Except by some little timing issues around 2:10, this is a very good take! Congrats on the work done for the first assignment.

Posted by: PosterBoy Oct 3 2016, 08:40 AM

Thanks Gabriel. Coming back into the riff after the chorus was one of my sticking points as there is little in the way of audio cues to rely on

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Oct 3 2016, 02:17 PM

ASSIGNMENT 2:

Goals:


- Minor phrasing
- Burn's Solo


TASK 1:

Learn the first two licks from Burn Solo:
https://youtu.be/K7W7HDfFhS0

Use your ears, any youtube tutorial or google for tabs. Practice it over a backing track or over the song.


TASK 2:

Learn this lesson: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Simple-Aminor-Soloing/

Practice it over the backing track, and once you can play relatively well the licks, practice creating variations and mixing the licks with your own licks.


Exam and deadline:

By October 18th you'll have to share 3 videos:

- A video playing the licks from the A minor Lesson(4 coins)
- A second video improvising over the backing track. (3 coins)
- A video playing the licks learnt by the song Burn (3 coins)

Each of this videos will be evaluated (check the coins value below). You need to get at least 7 coins to pass. If you pass, we can continue, if you don't you will have a second "call".

Posted by: PosterBoy Oct 2 2020, 08:42 AM

Hi Gab,

Recently I've been getting back into the more Emo/Post Hardcore bands after listening to the Labeled podcast about the Tooth and Nail record label.

I'm going to go through some of the Metal Rhythm lessons and your Hardcore and punk lessons.

I seem to have missed out quite a few bands due to being a little older for the scene when it happened.

I love Story of the year, Thrice, etc.

Can you give some other listening recomendations.

I'll post my journey with the lessons here. as well as any of my own ideas.

I'm aware of my lack of discipline and consistency so I hope I can keep the depression at bay and maybe focus it on songwriting rather than just feeling useless biggrin.gif

At 47 am I too old to be an Emo Kid? I hope not!!!

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Oct 2 2020, 03:18 PM

Hi mate!! Great to hear from you here!

About motivation, I recommend you check this thread/book/vid: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=61266

Post-hardcore / Emo recommentions














There are lots... newer, older... but these are the first that came to mind. I also recommend you checking Paramore's Brand New Eyes album which is full of great songs, arrangements, and the mix is killer.


You plan sounds great! I'll be here checking your progress. biggrin.gif

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