Straight Vs Syncopated Soloing, UPLOAD THREAD |
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May 26 2009, 02:15 PM
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Take a brake buddy, no need to rush anything here
 Try another one tomorrow or day after, recharge your batteries  |
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May 26 2009, 10:08 PM
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Here is guitar pro file of my solo.
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May 29 2009, 02:19 AM
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Here's my take Pedja.
Wow, syncopation is something I haven't worked on in the past. I hope that I got the basic idea. If I'm on the right track, the 1st 4 bars here are syncopated, then I'm "on beat" for 4 bars, then 4-bars are somewhat syncopated, and the last 4 are on beat again. I hope that I got that right, and that this is what you're looking for. The harmonic minor scale was fun to mess around with. I should do some more work to memorize all the 3nps harmonic minor modes (Like Zolt's modal madness lesson). Here, I just picked a few notes from the scale that seemed to fit. 
30090528_Collab_Syncopation_wBacking.mp3 ( 520.13K )
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30090528_Collab_Syncopation_noBacking.mp3 ( 520.13K )
Number of downloads: 129 |
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May 29 2009, 12:40 PM
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QUOTE (JamesT @ May 29 2009, 03:19 AM)  Here's my take Pedja. Wow, syncopation is something I haven't worked on in the past. I hope that I got the basic idea. If I'm on the right track, the 1st 4 bars here are syncopated, then I'm "on beat" for 4 bars, then 4-bars are somewhat syncopated, and the last 4 are on beat again. I hope that I got that right, and that this is what you're looking for. The harmonic minor scale was fun to mess around with. I should do some more work to memorize all the 3nps harmonic minor modes (Like Zolt's modal madness lesson). Here, I just picked a few notes from the scale that seemed to fit.
30090528_Collab_Syncopation_wBacking.mp3 ( 520.13K )
Number of downloads: 177
30090528_Collab_Syncopation_noBacking.mp3 ( 520.13K )
Number of downloads: 129Very nice take Jim. I will accept it as final take but there are some things you can improve as future reference. When you were doing straight rhythm you always started good and strong but then later on started adding ties and dots to the notes which turned out to be somewhat syncopated rhythm. I know backing is syncopated and it tends to pull you to pull that way but still I think you did good job with introducing some straight rhythm in there. Glad you enjoyed Harmonic minor scale. It is definitely fun one to work with especially over Dom7 chord. |
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I noticed afterwards that I overused syncopated rhythms for the sake of this class, but I got some straight rhythm in there. Is this take ok, or should I redo it? 
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May 29 2009, 07:12 PM
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QUOTE (Pedja Simovic @ May 29 2009, 08:04 PM) Sounds good Dexxter. Deadline will be extended so you will have chance to submit another take Alright Pedja
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May 30 2009, 05:00 PM
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I'm sorry for the long delay Pedja! As I said earlier, I messed up the first recording, then, after rerecording it I wasn't satisfied with it anymore as a compostion. I had an exam yesterday so I only got to time for a new take today.
I tried to keep it simple and to maintain the balance between straight and syncopated rhythm... I also used lot's of syncopation but I tried to include some more (rhythmically) straightforward passages to even it out. I hope I got the basic idea right in this collab, and thanks for giving us a bit more time on this one
rhythm_collab_berko_w_BT.mp3 ( 774.82K )
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rhythm_collab_berko_noBT.mp3 ( 774.82K )
Number of downloads: 127This post has been edited by berko: May 30 2009, 05:01 PM |
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May 30 2009, 05:23 PM
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QUOTE (berko @ May 30 2009, 06:00 PM) I'm sorry for the long delay Pedja! As I said earlier, I messed up the first recording, then, after rerecording it I wasn't satisfied with it anymore as a compostion. I had an exam yesterday so I only got to time for a new take today. I tried to keep it simple and to maintain the balance between straight and syncopated rhythm... I also used lot's of syncopation but I tried to include some more (rhythmically) straightforward passages to even it out. I hope I got the basic idea right in this collab, and thanks for giving us a bit more time on this one
rhythm_collab_berko_w_BT.mp3 ( 774.82K )
Number of downloads: 146
rhythm_collab_berko_noBT.mp3 ( 774.82K )
Number of downloads: 127Berko this was beautiful man. I really enjoyed listening to it 2/3 into the solo. Last section , phrasing was a bit all over the place but everything before it was well done. Will write you more about it in PM as I have to leave now (have some friends coming over in half an hour
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But yes, as I'm listening to it now, the last section would certainly need some brushing up
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Jun 1 2009, 02:35 AM
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Pedja, you think like a music computer. This one is over my head. The only thing I understood in your instructions is a tonal center of A minor. I played my solo in the D Dorian position. This is the one and only take. I don't know upbeat from downbeat, and besides, I am the soloist, I can't be bothered with accurate rhythm.
I want to talk more about this after you post your comments.
jdriver_synco_WBT.mp3 ( 709.81K )
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jdriver_synco_WOBT.mp3 ( 684.05K )
Number of downloads: 179-------------------- "I dreamed a lot when I was younger.. I'm older now but still I hunger For some understanding. There's no understanding, now. Was there ever? ...Joe Puerta (Ambrosia)... Finally got a YouTube page going. |
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Jun 1 2009, 01:02 PM
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QUOTE (jdriver @ Jun 1 2009, 03:35 AM) Pedja, you think like a music computer. This one is over my head. The only thing I understood in your instructions is a tonal center of A minor. I played my solo in the D Dorian position. This is the one and only take. I don't know upbeat from downbeat, and besides, I am the soloist, I can't be bothered with accurate rhythm. I want to talk more about this after you post your comments.
jdriver_synco_WBT.mp3 ( 709.81K )
Number of downloads: 162
jdriver_synco_WOBT.mp3 ( 684.05K )
Number of downloads: 179Haha ! Jeff I don't think like music computer, I am just trying to find interesting and creative ways for you guys to learn about everything. This concept of straight and syncopated rhythm is actually quite common in music, but its something that not many people talk about (its stuff thats hidden beneath the layers if you want it put that way . Your solo was using syncopated rhythm as it was off beat trough out. If you want it to be final take, I will accept it but I will write you final comments and send you PM more about straight rhythm soloing. Thanks Jeff |
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Jun 1 2009, 08:16 PM
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QUOTE (Pedja Simovic @ Jun 1 2009, 05:02 AM) Your solo was using syncopated rhythm as it was off beat trough out. If you want it to be final take, I will accept it but I will write you final comments and send you PM more about straight rhythm soloing. Thanks Jeff Yes this is the final take, and I welcome your comments. I tried other takes and all I ended up changing was the tone. So this is an area I need to learn more about. -------------------- "I dreamed a lot when I was younger.. I'm older now but still I hunger For some understanding. There's no understanding, now. Was there ever? ...Joe Puerta (Ambrosia)... Finally got a YouTube page going. |
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Jun 5 2009, 01:06 AM
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Hi Pedja,
Here another take. As i said i'm a bit out of ideas. Hope straight and syncopated rhythms are better balanced now.
Pedja_Class_4_Syncopated_Soloing_wbt_03.mp3 ( 840.68K )
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Pedja_Class_4_Syncopated_Soloing_nbt_03.mp3 ( 813.28K )
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