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Posted by: kaznie_NL Dec 29 2007, 12:34 PM

High GMC,

I'm on the site now for a couple of weeks and I'm having a problem. The only way to hear the backing track is when you sit behind you desktop or laptop. Won't it be great if we could just download the track, put it on your mp3 and jam with it? For instance my pc is no where near my guitar, so I can't just click play on the pc, then run to my guitar and jam along...

So here's my idear:

make another line under backing track called "downloads" if you click it you'll go a restricted page like the tabs page. There you can download the backing track! It might be a good idear to tell everybody in the "terms of condition" ( I just mean the realy long text that you have to accept before registering) that it's illegal to share the .mp3 backing track.

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Dec 29 2007, 12:41 PM

The current solution isn't good at all - I agree with that.

My apologises once again for delaying the backing track feature - as this has been requested for a year now I hope we can finally give it some priority and start working on a good solution.

Until then you will find some backings posted on the instructor boards...

Posted by: kaznie_NL Dec 29 2007, 12:52 PM

thnx for the fast respond

Posted by: DeepRoots Dec 29 2007, 01:00 PM

yep - downloading backings and videos is a popular topic here on the forums for sure. Myself- i'm happy with it on the computer and i dont want to see our lessons/backings become pirated/torrented.

Posted by: Bogdan Dec 29 2007, 02:15 PM

Well you have to sit at your computer in order to learn the lesson...It would be nice to have the download option for them but than again it wouldn't be nice to have them pirated and on torrents...So its a though decision.

Posted by: twind Dec 29 2007, 03:01 PM

Positives to allowing all the stuff to be downloaded would to reduce bandwidth and cost to the site. But backing tracks for sure need to be a download.

Posted by: Iluha Dec 29 2007, 03:03 PM

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Edited for discussion of downloading tracks - Andrew

Posted by: Muris Dec 29 2007, 03:04 PM

I woted No only because it's current situation
Yeah,it would be great for sure but still we have to protect out work somehow...
Hope that GMC crew will find some nice solution,cause they always do

Posted by: Smells Dec 29 2007, 03:04 PM

I think it`d be a good feature, but the question on how to keep the backings "secure" is going to be the hardest one to answer, my guitar is in the same room as my PC and I play through the PC anyway so this isnt a problem thats arisen for me, but I understand what others have said, again if I went away anywhere and could take my guitar with me it would be good to have the backings on an ipod or something similar?

Posted by: Fran Dec 29 2007, 04:09 PM

I'd love to be able to download the backing tracks to jam along with my pod/amp.

As a matter of fact I think that it would be great if a new section appeared where instructors left lots of backings, even longer than 1 minute, to jam with different styles from blues to metal, with or without a lesson asociated to them, just for the sake of it.

Maybe a section of backings with a suggestion of different scales that would suit them, and in different keys.

I'd love to put all that in my mp3 and carry it with my pod when I travel!

Posted by: fatb0t Dec 29 2007, 07:11 PM

This is an interesting predicament; it's similar to what's going on in my country and probably around the world with a little thing called "DRM". Basically DRM or digital rights management was developed inorder to prevent copying copyrighted works and prevent privacy, unfortunately DRM has failed HORRIBLY. It has inhibited the consumer and destroyed the media market (DVDs, CDs, Software ect...)
You never want to go to war with your PAYING customers, if you have a loyal customer base who pay for content it's only fair to let them download the media and play it on the media form THEY wish, be it: Mp3 player, CD, or desktop/laptop....

GMC is a community not just some backing tracks, and I certainly believe that if the subscribers had access to downloading the backing tracks it would be extremely helpful to us learning.

Think, you could download a backing track, record on top of it and have people criticize your style, give you tips and hints. Sure we sort of have that with collaborations, but that's for like a 10 second SOLO, not even rhythm. I think I would benefit us all greatly.

Posted by: Freebird Dec 29 2007, 11:23 PM

There IS a way to download the backing tracks even without a download button. You only need a basic understanding of how your internet browser works

And even if we had download... how do we keep the tracks secure? DRM? Unfeasable...
I can't find a way to keep the tracks from being shared if you make them downloadable... But already if somebody REALLY wanted to share them, they could! So why not make them downloadable?

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Dec 29 2007, 11:32 PM

As Kris has already said, he is working on a way of providing this - please respect his wishes for now and don't download the tracks or help others to do the same.

Posted by: Freebird Dec 29 2007, 11:40 PM

I have no problem, I was just showing my opinion on the subject
I hope Kris fixes this soon !

Posted by: Muris Dec 30 2007, 12:21 AM

+ 1

Posted by: erik Dec 30 2007, 02:52 PM

There are plenty of web-sites providing free backing tracks anyway, so I don't think piracy will be a big issue. And is it that big a deal if the backing tracks are pirated? I mean, it's the lessons that matter..

Posted by: Constie Dec 30 2007, 04:10 PM

What about a copy protection. I heard it's possible to let a .wmv-file run only on one specific computer!
But in that case you GMC may have to pay a licence fee, and implementing it wouldn't be easy I guess.

Just an idea...

By the way I found gmc lessons broadcasted by torrent :/ Well luckily the administrator deleted it.