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Posted by: superize Jul 4 2011, 04:46 PM

I got a Behringer UMX490 midi keyboard today and i am having some difficulties and was hoping to get some help.

I use Kore player from native instruments to get sound from the keyboard and i have maneged to get the sound through my computer but the problem i am having now is when i am using kore player and playing i cant get any sound from the computer or internet and its the other way around if am using the computer to listen to something.

Another problem i am having is that i cant get any sound from it when using it in my DAW(reaper).

I have looked in the manual but it doesent say anything and i am soon on about to explode in anger. I a mean i dont know what to do since i have never tried something like this.......

please help me

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jul 4 2011, 05:12 PM

Hi man. I've never used the software that you are using. Regarding the first part of the question, maybe it's a limitation of your soundcard. I would try using another VSTi to know if the problem is your pc or if the problem is that the soft that you are using uses all the soundcard resources. I don't know Reaper but when I'm trying to do the same in Nuendo I have to open a section called "Instruments" where I choose the VSTi, then I assign that instrument in a Midi Channel and finally I set that channel in Recording mode. After doing those Steps the Midi Keyboard starts to sound.

Posted by: Sollesnes Jul 5 2011, 12:53 AM

By your problem, it sounds like you are using Asio4all.
Asio4all does not share audio. You need to use a different driver.

Edit:
DAW is probably a different problem. Probably related to you not having it set up correctly in Reaper. But you're not really explaining much... Does Reaper recognize your keyboard? Does it react to you playing, but is simply not making sound to your speakers (in which case you need to check your outputs, or VSTs), or does Reaper simply not recognize your keyboard existing at all? if so, check your midi input like Gabriel said.

Posted by: superize Jul 5 2011, 09:53 AM

QUOTE (Sollesnes @ Jul 5 2011, 01:53 AM)

Thanks for letting me know that it helped.

But i still cant get any sound when playing on the keyboard. I am now using kontakt 4 player and on that i can see a keyboard and when i play my midi keyboard i can see the keys in kontakt player moving but i am not getting any sound but when i click with my mouse on the keys i get the sound.

The driver i am using now is called WASAPi(shared mode)

Posted by: Sinisa Cekic Jul 5 2011, 09:08 PM

Try to change midi channel/number in Kontakt ! I once had a similar problem, and I think I solved it on that way !

Posted by: Sollesnes Jul 5 2011, 09:16 PM

If WASAPi works good, that's good, but I found in most cases ASIO4ALL beats the crap out of it. It's just the thing that ASIO4ALL doesn't share audio.

So the VST does recognize you playing the keyboard, but it doesn't play back any audio, but if you use your mouse on the virtual keyboard, it plays?
I would go through the VST midi settings, and of course the outputs of your DAW and see if everything looks good. Is the problem the same no matter what VSTs you run? Do you have properly installed and updated drivers for both the keyboard and your audio interface?

Posted by: superize Jul 6 2011, 01:28 PM

Update

For some reason when i turned on the keyboard today i get sound from the computer when playing but the only working driver i have i ASIO4ALL so i still cant share audio. There is another Audio driver on the Behringer webpage but for some reason i cant intall that on my computer. I have sent an email to the asking about this.

So now i got a keyboard i can play on wch is a start but i still havent figure out how to get it to work in reaper so i can record something.

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Jul 6 2011, 01:28 PM

You see, your keyboard is actually MIDI controller. What this means is that it sends MIDI signals to software that can read them, and play samples, according to what it receives. Kontakt Player has ability to read MIDI, so does any DAW software.

Now, I saw that UMX has USB Interface integrated in. It could be that you installed drivers for USB interface and now this device is acting as your sound card? Try to check that, go to windows control panel, under the sound driver playback try to find the device. It shouldn't be there, since you will not use this device as your audio interface.

Isac, I believe you have POD Studio right? Go in Kontakt player, settings, and try to choose your POD as your sound card/ASIO driver for playback. Then go to MIDI settings tab, and try to choose UMX MIDI as your MIDI Input Device. (output shouldn't be important).

Try this, and let us know if it worked!

Posted by: tonymiro Jul 6 2011, 01:46 PM

QUOTE (superize @ Jul 4 2011, 04:46 PM)

...when i am using kore player and playing i cant get any sound from the computer or internet and its the other way around if am using the computer to listen to something.

...

ASIO 1 and 2 to my knowledge doesn't supprt multiclient. If your internet and pc sound are set to run on one sound card (ie on board) whilst you use an ASIO enabled audio device for the DAW and Kore you will only get sound from one. If this is the case you need to set the ASIO device as the sound device not just for Kore and your DAW but also for your pc to stream internet Youtube etc to.

Posted by: superize Jul 6 2011, 02:23 PM

Ok good news i got it working in reaper so that i can listen and record. I am using my toneport GX as audio device and that worked in reaper but its still the same when it comes to hearing both from kontak and internet

Updadate:

Now i got it working everywhere. Using my toneport as audio device worked for now thanks alot Ivan for the tips

Posted by: Sollesnes Jul 6 2011, 02:29 PM

Congratulations.

Posted by: superize Jul 6 2011, 02:42 PM

Thanks for all your help guys

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Jul 6 2011, 08:35 PM

Glad to help man!