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Posted by: Ben Higgins Apr 14 2012, 10:56 AM

Hey Dudez cool.gif

Time for another audio collab !

I've taken the backing from my Vibrato Odyssey 5 lesson as it has a cool, lazy sounding groove. Just perfect for some blues rock style licks. I'd like to encourage some of the more metal players among you to experiment with a bluesier approach, maybe even try a different tone, something more woody and less distorted.

 Lazy_Collab.mp3 ( 2MB ) : 308


The chord progression is A5 (root + 5th), C, G, Fadd9, G7

Scales : Am pentatonic or A minor scale works just fine over the chords !

I'm gonna use my Jackson for this one and take advantage of that neck pickup !

Deadline is Saturday 28th April - or I break both of your arms and plant Justin Bieber cd's in your bedroom ph34r.gif

Posted by: Lixxx Apr 15 2012, 06:30 PM

Could I be so bold as to request, you give us the tempo of this fine jam ??

Cheers

Posted by: Ben Higgins Apr 15 2012, 07:57 PM

QUOTE (Lixxx @ Apr 15 2012, 06:30 PM) *
Could I be so bold as to request, you give us the tempo of this fine jam ??

Cheers


Sure, 85bpm !

Posted by: Lixxx Apr 16 2012, 10:53 AM

Alright, heres my take.....

 Lixxx_Lotsa_Backing.WAV ( 4.99MB ) : 272


 Lixxx_No_Backing.WAV ( 4.99MB ) : 230





I have recorded the backing chords myself instead of the only metronome track from last time wink.gif
Hope this makes it a bit more enjoyable to listen to.


I tried to apply what you told me bout not always starting the lick on the beat or on the next chord, hope it worked to your liking.


Cheers Lixxx

Posted by: Sensible Jones Apr 16 2012, 11:23 AM

Free Bieber CD's for Non-participation?? How cool are you???
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Will participate even though it means no free CD's!!
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Posted by: Ben Higgins Apr 16 2012, 02:42 PM

QUOTE (Lixxx @ Apr 16 2012, 10:53 AM) *
Alright, heres my take.....

 Lixxx_Lotsa_Backing.WAV ( 4.99MB ) : 272


 Lixxx_No_Backing.WAV ( 4.99MB ) : 230





I have recorded the backing chords myself instead of the only metronome track from last time wink.gif
Hope this makes it a bit more enjoyable to listen to.


I tried to apply what you told me bout not always starting the lick on the beat or on the next chord, hope it worked to your liking.


Cheers Lixxx


Yes Man, that really works ! Well done for heeding the advice - it's paid off. Makes it sound more professional smile.gif

QUOTE (Sensible Jones @ Apr 16 2012, 11:23 AM) *
Free Bieber CD's for Non-participation?? How cool are you???
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I always try to make people's dreams come true smile.gif

Posted by: Lixxx Apr 16 2012, 03:31 PM

QUOTE (Sensible Jones @ Apr 16 2012, 11:23 AM) *
Free Bieber CD's for Non-participation?? How cool are you???
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laugh.gif laugh.gif

Will participate even though it means no free CD's!!
smile.gif


I could offer my Clockwork Orange - esque torturing/ enhanced interrogation device so nobody cheats its way out of listening, or even making a profit ..... well resell is prolly 1c so anyway ..... ph34r.gif

Posted by: Gitarrero Apr 18 2012, 07:03 PM

If I'm not mistaken I only get the Justin Bieber CDs if I join the collab, but don't submit a take...right?

So...I'm in laugh.gif

Posted by: Gitarrero Apr 22 2012, 02:03 PM

I know I'm throwing away my chance to get free Justin Bieber CDs, but here is my take biggrin.gif
As suggested, I chose a cleaner sound and went a little more John Frusciante style at some parts.

Hef

 Lazy_Rock_collab_wbt.mp3 ( 2.58MB ) : 189
 Lazy_Rock_collab_nbt.mp3 ( 2.58MB ) : 171
 

Posted by: HungryForHeaven Apr 22 2012, 05:50 PM

I guess this is not really my playground. But having a Justin Bieber CD planted in my bedroom would be rather embarassing, so I figured I should give it a shot.

H4H

 Lazy_Rock_Collab___H4H_mix.mp3 ( 1017.14K ) : 232

[attachment=27212:Lazy_Roc...H4H_solo.wav]

Posted by: Ben Higgins Apr 22 2012, 08:08 PM

QUOTE (Gitarrero @ Apr 22 2012, 02:03 PM) *
I know I'm throwing away my chance to get free Justin Bieber CDs, but here is my take biggrin.gif
As suggested, I chose a cleaner sound and went a little more John Frusciante style at some parts.

Hef


Hey Hef !

Nice one, my friend.. yes it is very Frusciante - I like it a lot ! Now we can relax in the knowledge that the collab is safe because the German guy submitted his take cool.gif

QUOTE (HungryForHeaven @ Apr 22 2012, 05:50 PM) *
I guess this is not really my playground. But having a Justin Bieber CD planted in my bedroom would be rather embarassing, so I figured I should give it a shot.

H4H

 Lazy_Rock_Collab___H4H_mix.mp3 ( 1017.14K ) : 232

[attachment=27212:Lazy_Roc...H4H_solo.wav]


H, this is brilliant ! Even though it's not what you would normally do I think you've excelled and this is one of my favourite solos of yours. That first descending run reminds me of Adrian Smith, especially his run in the Rime of the Ancient Mariner solo (when the songs gets faster after the long middle section) cool.gif

Posted by: Todd Simpson Apr 23 2012, 07:27 AM

ANOTHER KILLER BEN COLLAB! I tried to do this one pretty much "freestyle" and tried to not overthink/overplay per usual and make it overly technical. Tried to be more organic, let it flow and (SHOCKER) use less gain! smile.gif So I did two exports, once with my BEN patch and one with the same solo with a bit more grit/fuzz/wah/etc.. I"m also including the TH1 TRIODE bank that I created while I was working on this. It's 6 different patches with wads of stuff in them. Enjoy!

VERSION 1 (Less Gain) WITH BACKING
 WithBacking_Patch1.mp3 ( 2.32MB ) : 207


VERSION 1 SOLO ONLY
 Todd_V1_SOLO_Only.mp3 ( 2.32MB ) : 180


VERSION 2 (More Gain) WITH BACKING
 WithBacking_Patch2.mp3 ( 2MB ) : 198


VERSION 2 SOLO ONLY
 Todd_V2_SOLO_ONLY.mp3 ( 2.32MB ) : 226



Posted by: HungryForHeaven Apr 23 2012, 10:32 AM

Hey Todd, I can only hear the backing in VERSION 2.

Posted by: Ben Higgins Apr 23 2012, 10:35 AM

Kick ass stuff Todd.. yeah only the backing is on version 2 smile.gif

Posted by: WeePee Apr 23 2012, 01:14 PM

QUOTE (HungryForHeaven @ Apr 22 2012, 07:50 PM) *
I guess this is not really my playground. But having a Justin Bieber CD planted in my bedroom would be rather embarassing, so I figured I should give it a shot.

H4H

 Lazy_Rock_Collab___H4H_mix.mp3 ( 1017.14K ) : 232

[attachment=27212:Lazy_Roc...H4H_solo.wav]




This is excellent... Ben, give this man 2 Bieber cds.


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Posted by: Ben Higgins Apr 23 2012, 07:18 PM

QUOTE (WeePee @ Apr 23 2012, 01:14 PM) *


This is excellent... Ben, give this man 2 Bieber cds.


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Do you know what ?

I think I will biggrin.gif

Posted by: HungryForHeaven Apr 23 2012, 09:22 PM

QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ Apr 23 2012, 06:18 PM) *
Do you know what ?

I think I will biggrin.gif


Can we hold on just a second here?

Earache does not exist in this dojo, does it?

Posted by: Todd Simpson Apr 23 2012, 09:59 PM

QUOTE (HungryForHeaven @ Apr 23 2012, 05:32 AM) *
Hey Todd, I can only hear the backing in VERSION 2.


Oops! I'll swap that out.

QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Apr 23 2012, 04:58 PM) *
Oops! I'll swap that out.


Looks like I wrapped that track up about 2:30 am. I didn't realize it was that late. Time flies when your jamming!

Posted by: Todd Simpson Apr 24 2012, 03:16 AM

Here is the spiff OVERLOUD TH1 PATCH I created just for this killer collab! It's actually an entire bank of patches called the BEN BANK!

 BEN_BANK_TH1.xml.zip ( 11.8K ) : 180


And here is the crazy one from the BEN BANK, with wads of FX and GAIN smile.gif For contrast to the first one which is pretty plain. I dig em both actually!

 Todd_take2_withBacking.mp3 ( 2.32MB ) : 184

Posted by: Ben Higgins Apr 27 2012, 10:19 AM

Hey Homies.. just a quick reminder that the video chat deady is tomorrow in case anybody wants to inject a quick submission ! cool.gif

Posted by: Ben Higgins May 2 2012, 12:35 PM

Good afternoon Dudez ! cool.gif

Here is the final mix of the collab - Enjoy !

 Lazy_Rock_Collab.mp3 ( 6.39MB ) : 127


I don't have any critical feedback for your takes this time because the guitar playing was brilliant from everyone. The only criticisms I have are about tone.

Lixxx, your take suffered from a strange tone that sounds like you've got a flanger effect on it. As a result, some notes sound high, nasal and thin wheras some notes leap out of the speakers with too much bottom end boom. I had to mess around with EQ a bit to try and reduce that booming effect whilst keeping the audio loud enough so try and go for a more natural sound with less bass, a healthy does of mid range and go easy on the treble smile.gif

H4H, your tone was really nice and woody sounding. Again there was a few moments of bottom end leaping out here and there. I'm not sure how you guys are recording your audio.. maybe there's some way to reduce unwanted frequencies and excess noise ?

Your actual playing itself was fantastic guys, can't fault it !

No tone issues with Gitarrero and Todd. Christian, I like your laid back Frusciante approach - it really works. A few meandering passages here and there which feel like they don't resolve but I'll let you off because I'm sure you improvised the whole thing, like most of us, so you're forgiven.

Todd, I love your playing but I think it's about time you released the inner bluesman in you.. let's get you doing some delta style blues bends and double stops. I think for a future collab we should forbid diatonic scale runs to get me and you totally out of our comfort zones - that'll be fun !! biggrin.gif

Posted by: Lixxx May 4 2012, 07:26 PM

Thx, Man

Yeah the JM4 does rly mess that up. Nxt recording will be from the BR-800 so should be nicer quality.


Posted by: Gitarrero May 5 2012, 05:40 AM

Thanks Ben!

Yes, I always improvise...I can't memorize my own solos laugh.gif

Now let's see the "two men transatlantic blues army"! Would be cool to see you and Todd really play different stuff than you use to biggrin.gif

Posted by: Ben Higgins May 5 2012, 10:14 AM

QUOTE (Gitarrero @ May 5 2012, 05:40 AM) *
Thanks Ben!

Yes, I always improvise...I can't memorize my own solos laugh.gif

Now let's see the "two men transatlantic blues army"! Would be cool to see you and Todd really play different stuff than you use to biggrin.gif


That's cool, Christian.. yeah sometimes improv is just the way to go smile.gif

Yeah, it's good to put ourselves in the shoes of a different type of style. A bit like method acting, where you 'become' the character. It always helps to get into a blues mindset when you get a real, woody blues tone and start trying to think like a bluesman smile.gif

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