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JVM View Member Profile	Apr 14 2008, 03:10 AM
Apr 14 2008, 03:10 AM	Learning Roadie Posts: 2.878 Joined: 2-June 07 From: Raleigh-Durham, NC	QUOTE (Twibeard @ Mar 24 2008, 10:35 AM) Shamanism Aliens & Ayahuasca : Graham Hancock Pt.1 Shamanism Aliens & Ayahuasca : Graham Hancock Pt.2 Shamanism Aliens & Ayahuasca : Graham Hancock Pt.3 Shamanism Aliens & Ayahuasca : Graham Hancock Pt.4 Shamanism Aliens & Ayahuasca : Graham Hancock Pt.5 Shamanism Aliens & Ayahuasca : Graham Hancock Pt.6 Shamanism Aliens & Ayahuasca : Graham Hancock Pt.7 Shamanism Aliens & Ayahuasca : Graham Hancock Pt.8 Shamanism Aliens & Ayahuasca : Graham Hancock Pt.9 Shamanism Aliens & Ayahuasca : Graham Hancock Pt.10 Shamanism Aliens & Ayahuasca : Graham Hancock Pt.11 Shamanism Aliens & Ayahuasca : Graham Hancock Pt.12 About halfway through these. Thanks for the links. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Gear: Fender American Deluxe Stratocaster, Gibson '67 RI Flying V, Mesa Boogie F-30 112 combo, crazy pedals.

dropbman View Member Profile	Apr 14 2008, 05:22 AM
Apr 14 2008, 05:22 AM	GMC:er Posts: 16 Joined: 18-August 07	QUOTE (Smikey2006 @ Apr 13 2008, 02:53 PM) Nihlist.. i just don't care "Oh that must be exhausting" quote from The Big Lebowski lol I'm an atheist. I was an agnostic for awhile but then I read two books by Sam Harris "Letter to a Christian Nation" and "The End of Faith" both are fun, quick, enlightening reads. I will say, also, that I have no problem with theism, as long as no one attempts to force it on me or anyone for that matter. A cool fact is that Islamic Terrorism is frowned upon by the Koran as real Muslims did not have the religion forced upon them but grew up in it and accepted it. And I don't see how atheism=amorality. Society is the basis for you moral compass and unless your a backwoods hick you'll know that killing someone is wrong no matter what. I also believe in evolutionism. Mainly because reason is the all encompassing, end all be all and right now creation has less proof than evolution. P.S. Marx and Engels were socialists not card carryin commies You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- axes:peavey raptor exp for standard and drop d tuning (it was free lol) Squier strat deluxe series HH for drop B Amp:marshall mg15dfx best song=Bring Me The Horizon-Pray For Plagues dream axe:

kyldeee View Member Profile	Apr 14 2008, 07:08 AM
Apr 14 2008, 07:08 AM	GMC:er Posts: 1.602 Joined: 15-July 07 From: Naantali, Finland	I don't really think it that much, but I would say that I'm Agnostic... There are things that I want to believe and somethings that I just don't, even if it came and bit me in the a You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Music really is a way to reach out and hold on to each other in a healthy way. - Stevie Ray Vaughan**

Norven View Member Profile	Apr 14 2008, 12:41 PM
Apr 14 2008, 12:41 PM	GMC:er Posts: 216 Joined: 5-April 06 From: Sweden	QUOTE (dropbman @ Apr 14 2008, 05:22 AM) right now creation has less proof than evolution. the only thing about evolution that is proved is actually the "micro-evolution". Macro evolution is nothing more than a theory. The thought that my grand grand grand (etc. etc. etc.) father was a rock is just inzane. Then we shouldn´t jump on rocks? because if we wait several billions years they will become living things. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- The Guitar may be the love of life.

Robin View Member Profile	Apr 14 2008, 01:40 PM
Apr 14 2008, 01:40 PM	GMC:er Posts: 2.483 Joined: 9-January 07 From: Alta, Norway	QUOTE (Norven @ Apr 14 2008, 11:41 AM) The thought that my grand grand grand (etc. etc. etc.) father was a rock is just inzane. Then we shouldn´t jump on rocks? because if we wait several billions years they will become living things. who said that rocks turned into living things? You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Robin Myspace - Creep Colony Myspace - Creep Colony - Paralyzed

Fsgdjv View Member Profile	Apr 14 2008, 02:07 PM
Apr 14 2008, 02:07 PM	GMC:er Posts: 1.255 Joined: 12-April 07	Just face it, we are all retarded fish frogs You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Practice Agenda

OrganisedConfusi... OrganisedConfusion View Member Profile	Apr 14 2008, 02:10 PM
Apr 14 2008, 02:10 PM	GMC:er Posts: 5.635 Joined: 29-November 07 From: Nottingham, UK	Interesting. It is pretty much even between believers and non believers on GMC. I stay in the middle to avaoid having an argument about something I care nothing about You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Gear Guitars:- Caparison Horus Snowcloud, Parker Nitefly M, Parker Nitefly SA, Gibson SG, Parker P10e, 40 Year Old Spanish Acoustic Amps:- Framus Ruby Riot 2x12" stack

Tsarpf View Member Profile	Apr 14 2008, 02:11 PM
Apr 14 2008, 02:11 PM	GMC:er Posts: 143 Joined: 14-April 07 From: Finland/Porvoo	- You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! This post has been edited by Tsarpf: May 15 2008, 01:25 PM

Robin View Member Profile	Apr 14 2008, 02:49 PM
Apr 14 2008, 02:49 PM	GMC:er Posts: 2.483 Joined: 9-January 07 From: Alta, Norway	QUOTE (Fsgdjv @ Apr 14 2008, 01:07 PM) Just face it, we are all retarded fish frogs thats right mrs. garrison You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Robin Myspace - Creep Colony Myspace - Creep Colony - Paralyzed

Norven View Member Profile	Apr 14 2008, 02:54 PM
Apr 14 2008, 02:54 PM	GMC:er Posts: 216 Joined: 5-April 06 From: Sweden	QUOTE (Robin @ Apr 14 2008, 01:40 PM) who said that rocks turned into living things? It´s a simplification. 20 billions years ago there was the "big bang" 4 billions years ago the earth formed and cooled down. about e billions year ago the athmosfear was developed and it started to rain. And the rain become a soup, and there bakteria developed and developed more and more and here we are today. That´s a short version of the evolution theory. Here is a link with a torrent there are several seminars with Dr. Kent Hovind. He has very interesting information. A debate between evolution and creation. http://www.mininova.org/tor/514165 P.s both are totally legal to download. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! This post has been edited by Norven: Apr 14 2008, 03:04 PM -------------------- The Guitar may be the love of life.

FrankW View Member Profile	May 10 2008, 02:35 PM
May 10 2008, 02:35 PM	GMC:er Posts: 622 Joined: 29-April 08 From: Fort Mill, SC, USA, Pangea, Earth	. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! This post has been edited by FrankW: May 11 2008, 03:56 AM

thefireball View Member Profile	Jun 30 2010, 05:54 AM
Jun 30 2010, 05:54 AM	Learning Roadie Posts: 4.537 Joined: 9-March 10 From: United States, Arkansas	Well, let me tell you what I believe, since it was asked. I'm a Christian. In other words, I believe in God. Not only that, but Jesus' sacrifice. I believe God sent His Son to die for our wrongdoings. (sins) Jesus had to die for mankind because we are not perfect. Nobody is - we all make mistakes. God can't look at us with all this sin. Yet He loves us so much that He provided a way for us to live forever with Him in Heaven - if only we will believe with all of our heart what Jesus did for us. See, God's standards are soooo high, that we could NEVER reach them. To get into heaven on God's terms is sinless perfection. Impossible! We are human! Exactly! That's why Jesus was that sacrifice - our subsitute. Once you believe (saved) you should begin living for Jesus as a Christian should. This includes praying, reading God's Word, serving Him in church, etc. God and Jesus are the same thing. We cannot grasp the meaning of this because we have finite minds. How could there never been a beginning with God? I don't understand it. And I won't - in this life. I have to accept it by faith. And this, my friend, is how God gets the glory. If He "pre-programmed" us to do everything right, meaning having no freewill, then where's the glory? We're doing just what He intended. Yet, if He creates us with a freewill (and He did) then we may choose to believe in Him. I believe this with all my heart - yet I respect the people who differ. I believe God loves even those people. But since, I believe what I believe, I say: Believe in Jesus. At least give Him one chance, and you will never be sorry. Open your heart up to Jesus Christ - let Him into your life. Peace out, good people! Have a great day! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- YouTube - A Place For Melodic Guitarists Instagram - Behind the Music Analyzed Within - My Christian Metal Band

fkalich View Member Profile	Jun 30 2010, 07:37 AM
Jun 30 2010, 07:37 AM	GMC:er Posts: 2.789 Joined: 12-February 07 From: People's Republic of Lawrence Kansas	I now have rejected science and and I believe in God, because this dead thread has been brought back to life, and only a god can bring the dead back to life. thefireball must be his instrument in this work. That sounds like a prophet's name, "thefireball", don't you think? Especially if he is an angry vengeful god, like in the old testament. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! This post has been edited by fkalich: Jun 30 2010, 07:42 AM

Rik Veldhuizen View Member Profile	Jun 30 2010, 10:05 AM
Jun 30 2010, 10:05 AM	Learning Rock Star Posts: 253 Joined: 27-July 07 From: Netherlands	Well, in my opinion, since this thread is back alive... I believe religion in any form is the biggest farce of mankind... but that's just me. It's in man's nature to gain power and control, and it's in man's nature to seek comfort in something bigger. Somehow, this must have led to various forms of religions. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! This post has been edited by Rik Veldhuizen: Jun 30 2010, 07:59 PM

The Uncreator View Member Profile	Jun 30 2010, 04:48 PM
Jun 30 2010, 04:48 PM	Fire Up The Blades, Moderator Posts: 8.933 Joined: 6-March 07 From: St. Petersburg, Florida	Just as a reminder, Me and the rest of the moderators will have a close eye on this thread. So lets keep any further discussion clean, friendly, and lets have no sarcastic passive aggression towards any other members. As long as the debate remains this way, We should have no problems. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Vasilije Vukmiro... Vasilije Vukmirovic View Member Profile	Jun 30 2010, 06:54 PM
Jun 30 2010, 06:54 PM	Jazz Instructor Posts: 2.691 Joined: 1-October 08 From: Belgrade	I believe in God, though my view is quite materialistic in same time, I am 100% sure we evolved from monkeys. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Check out my Instructor profile Visit My youtube channel Add me as friend on FACEBOOK!

thefireball View Member Profile	Jun 30 2010, 08:52 PM
Jun 30 2010, 08:52 PM	Learning Roadie Posts: 4.537 Joined: 9-March 10 From: United States, Arkansas	QUOTE (The Uncreator @ Jun 30 2010, 10:48 AM) Just as a reminder, Me and the rest of the moderators will have a close eye on this thread. So lets keep any further discussion clean, friendly, and lets have no sarcastic passive aggression towards any other members. As long as the debate remains this way, We should have no problems. For sure, man. I have no intention of making anybody mad (which I know you know that) so I hope that we all at GMC can get along with each other. We are all humans - and we don't all agree. We should treat each other with kindness and respect. GMC rules!! May it go on as long as the world stands! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- YouTube - A Place For Melodic Guitarists Instagram - Behind the Music Analyzed Within - My Christian Metal Band

Marek Rojewski View Member Profile	Jun 30 2010, 09:25 PM
Jun 30 2010, 09:25 PM	Experienced Guitar Lord Posts: 1.671 Joined: 26-May 08 From: Lodz, Poland	Discussion is futile. If You are a true believer, than there are no "half-ways". You obey, or You suffer in hell forever. Any other way round is nothing more than "I wanna bannana" attitude. Also when You are a Christian and someone says to You "God doesn't exist" You should know, that the person is in violation of the ten most sacred rules in your religion, and as violation of those rules cannot be "forgiven by confession", the person is condemned to eternal hell. So for all Christians/Jews/Muslims - obey all the rules, or call Yourself a heretic, not a Christian/Jew/Muslim. Don't know how it works in all the new, nice and easy "religions". Of course I doubt there will be one person here on the forum, that would say all the people that have different way of thinking will burn forever, but this is just a prof that human use religion for their own profits, and find tons of excuses when something is not "along their way". I really see no point in talking about who believes in what, we really have no prof to support any of the "ways", besides our own "inner life". You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! This post has been edited by Marek Rojewski: Jun 30 2010, 09:27 PM -------------------- My Youtube channel My three lyrics: Paintings; Jester; Tiny Arrow

fkalich View Member Profile	Jun 30 2010, 09:44 PM
Jun 30 2010, 09:44 PM	GMC:er Posts: 2.789 Joined: 12-February 07 From: People's Republic of Lawrence Kansas	QUOTE (Vasilije Vukmirovic @ Jun 30 2010, 12:54 PM) I believe in God, though my view is quite materialistic in same time, I am 100% sure we evolved from monkeys. Well not exactly monkeys. We share a common ancestor. Just ignoring the empirically unproven (such as String Theory), I find it hard to comprehend how anyone who is really scientifically literate can possibly believe in one of the traditional religions, I am not sure how they do it. But they do. My older brother does. He is well read on modern physics/cosmology, and biology/evolution. But still, it is like he has a disconnect as to the implications of that knowledge. To me some traditional east Asian religions have more merit than what came out of the West and Middle East. Christianity today in the US is really more of a social thing than anything else. That is one reason people are often not willing to question it, or look at it as say a space alien would, seeing it as interesting how a species that has reached this level of technological sophistication still adheres to primitive superstitions. To give it up not only puts them in a void (which is frightening), but also requires them to give up a major part of their social life. They could always Join the Sierra club though. But the fear, a person is on their own there. I remember that, being raised Catholic, when I rejected it at age 22. Like a lightning bolt would come down and smite me. That gets put in a person's head, and some are not going to risk it. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Vasilije Vukmiro... Vasilije Vukmirovic View Member Profile	Jul 1 2010, 03:23 PM
Jul 1 2010, 03:23 PM	Jazz Instructor Posts: 2.691 Joined: 1-October 08 From: Belgrade	QUOTE (fkalich @ Jun 30 2010, 10:44 PM) Well not exactly monkeys. We share a common ancestor. Exactly! Evolution is a fact, other issues are steel mysterious but I like the fact that we human are basically millions of years old, and have that long history, it really gives you sense of pride and purpose. During that long times, lots of things can happen and it did happen. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Check out my Instructor profile Visit My youtube channel Add me as friend on FACEBOOK!

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