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Posted by: Ben Higgins Sep 3 2013, 12:55 PM

THE DARK LORD Audio Collab !

Hello boys and girls ! Who fancies dishing out some eerie guitar solos over my Tony Iommi backing track ??

 The_Dark_Lord.mp3 ( 3.81MB ) : 420


The key is E Minor.

The opening chords go between E5 and E/dim5.

Over this section you could use: E Minor, E Minor Pentatonic, E Diminished.. the diminished 5th note (A#) could be added to the first 2 scales to correspond with the 2nd chord change.

When it gets heavier, the chords are E5, D5, E5, G5... C5, G, C5, G5.. the E Minor scale fits over all those chords perfectly.

The backing track is quite long so what I will do in the final mix is probably loop it twice and select pieces from your takes and join it all together in one big solo smile.gif

I will need from you:

- An audio mix of your solo over the backing for reference purposes.
- Solo audio of your guitar track only

Deadline is Saturday 21st Sept

Posted by: Slavenko Erazer Sep 3 2013, 01:03 PM

Cool, how many beers have you've been bribed with this time ? laugh.gif

I'm in, as always wink.gif

Posted by: mad Sep 3 2013, 01:06 PM

Count me in for this one!

Posted by: WeePee Sep 3 2013, 01:39 PM

Busy collab month but you know...

I'm in like always cool.gif

Posted by: WeePee Sep 8 2013, 10:13 AM

Here. You Donutmonster cool.gif


https://soundcloud.com/alfafirefox/dark-lord

Posted by: Caelumamittendum Sep 8 2013, 12:03 PM

I might give this a shot as well some time during this month. smile.gif

Posted by: Ben Higgins Sep 8 2013, 12:47 PM

QUOTE (WeePee @ Sep 8 2013, 10:13 AM) *
Here. You Donutmonster cool.gif


https://soundcloud.com/alfafirefox/dark-lord


Man, that was awesome !! biggrin.gif

Nothing else to say, really !! cool.gif

Posted by: Ben Higgins Sep 8 2013, 01:31 PM

QUOTE (Caelumamittendum @ Sep 8 2013, 12:03 PM) *
I might give this a shot as well some time during this month. smile.gif


Yes please man, you're always welcome !

Posted by: SteveGuitar Sep 8 2013, 11:28 PM

Well I guess I'm in too if I get my USB Interface working again...

Posted by: AK Rich Sep 18 2013, 04:09 PM

QUOTE (WeePee @ Sep 8 2013, 01:13 AM) *
Here. You Donutmonster cool.gif


https://soundcloud.com/alfafirefox/dark-lord

Man that was killer WeePee! Nice job man , you really tapped into that one! cool.gif

Posted by: Ulrik Sep 18 2013, 07:58 PM

Really cool solo, now we just need Dio to put some vocals on it, but that might be difficult.

I'm not sure I can get anything done for saturday, sadly I just discovered this now, thanks to Weepee


(Edit: No, it is not his fault I did not discover it earlier)

Posted by: Ben Higgins Sep 18 2013, 08:22 PM

QUOTE (Ulrik @ Sep 18 2013, 07:58 PM) *
I'm not sure I can get anything done for saturday, sadly I just discovered this now, thanks to Weepee


(Edit: No, it is not his fault I did not discover it earlier)



Are you sure ?? I think it's good to sometimes blame things on WeePee biggrin.gif

Posted by: Ben Higgins Sep 20 2013, 10:01 AM

Just a little reminder to anyone who wants to get their take on this - it ends tomorrow ! smile.gif

I won't actually be here from this evening until Sunday so I guess there's time for a few late stragglers !! wink.gif


Posted by: dark_dude Sep 20 2013, 10:57 AM

Sounds sexy. Expect a clip from moi.

Posted by: WeePee Sep 20 2013, 03:09 PM

QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ Sep 18 2013, 10:22 PM) *
Are you sure ?? I think it's good to sometimes blame things on WeePee biggrin.gif


Yeah, blame the Scando cool.gif

QUOTE (dark_dude @ Sep 20 2013, 12:57 PM) *
Sounds sexy. Expect a clip from moi.


Nice to see ya DD !!

QUOTE (AK Rich @ Sep 18 2013, 06:09 PM) *
Man that was killer WeePee! Nice job man , you really tapped into that one! cool.gif


Thank You !! wink.gif

Posted by: Gitarrero Sep 21 2013, 12:14 PM

After being threatened by my old partner in crime, Scando Bastardo, I had to record a take as well.
If you think you hear DAS RIFF...blame it on WeePee aka Scando Bastardo.

https://soundcloud.com/gitarrero/gmc-the-dark-lord-collab-wbt

Hef

 The_Dark_Lord_collab_nbt.mp3 ( 4.9MB ) : 214
 

Posted by: Ulrik Sep 21 2013, 01:59 PM

I don't know if I'm allowed to say this, but: FUCK I like playing this kind of music

https://soundcloud.com/ulrik-morten-madsen/dark-lord-solo-by-ulrik

EDIT: just registered at soundcloud, lets see if it works!

 Dark_Lord_UlrikGuitarOnly.mp3 ( 902.01K ) : 220
 Dark_Lord.mp3 ( 902.01K ) : 227
 

Posted by: Ben Higgins Sep 22 2013, 10:47 AM

QUOTE (Gitarrero @ Sep 21 2013, 12:14 PM) *
After being threatened by my old partner in crime, Scando Bastardo, I had to record a take as well.
If you think you hear DAS RIFF...blame it on WeePee aka Scando Bastardo.

https://soundcloud.com/gitarrero/gmc-the-dark-lord-collab-wbt

Hef


Hell yeah - I love that sustained note at 0:50. Perfect !!! cool.gif

QUOTE (Ulrik @ Sep 21 2013, 01:59 PM) *
I don't know if I'm allowed to say this, but: FUCK I like playing this kind of music

https://soundcloud.com/ulrik-morten-madsen/dark-lord-solo-by-ulrik

EDIT: just registered at soundcloud, lets see if it works!


Man I like it - two guitars is very Iommi. Those bends sound very tortured and dark - great work ! biggrin.gif

Posted by: dark_dude Sep 22 2013, 10:11 PM

Tried to be more ambitious, but panicked and ended-up with a bunch of random licks that don't flow together at all (and a dodgy last bar). Just showcases my inexperience!

Cheers for the backing, was cool.

 darklord_nobt.mp3 ( 1.21MB ) : 220

 darklord_withbt.mp3 ( 1.21MB ) : 232


Good effort, guys! /waves back to WeePee

Posted by: Ben Higgins Sep 23 2013, 09:08 AM

QUOTE (dark_dude @ Sep 22 2013, 10:11 PM) *
Tried to be more ambitious, but panicked and ended-up with a bunch of random licks that don't flow together at all (and a dodgy last bar). Just showcases my inexperience!

Cheers for the backing, was cool.

Good effort, guys! /waves back to WeePee


I enjoyed that, especially the widdly licks near the end. That sweep was madness ! biggrin.gif

Posted by: Ben Higgins Sep 23 2013, 04:43 PM

FINAL MIX


Hail comrades ! Ze final mix is in !

 Dark_Lord_Final_Mix.mp3 ( 6.42MB ) : 267


Dark Dude - some sexy licks in there towards the end - would love to see them played on a video to see what's going on with the sweeps wink.gif That's quite a savage tone on the ears tho, a bit trebly !?! Love the Satch legato licks too !

Gitarrero - Have I heard that opening riff somewhere before ? It sounds familiar... ph34r.gif There's some good stuff in here, Hef.. it does have a tendency to meander though so don't forget to find those nice chord tones to give your melodies more KRAFT !

WeePee - Very nice, Scando B*stardo ! It's good that you highlighted the flat 5th too. The bluesy approach really works well, seeing as it's an Iommi inspried backing !

Ulrik - I like the double tracked solo.. it adds thickness to the tone and is just a good effect overall. Like Gitarrero, some lines can be meandering so finding the chord tones will help you.. but those wild bends and bleeding notes are a great touch !

I think it's fair to say that most of us improvise our takes on the spot for most of the collabs so we can be forgiven for not picking totally amazing melodies all the time. When you sit down and compose something, it's easier to create melodies and follow chord tones etc.. so if you ad-libbed your takes, don't take my criticisms to heart too much. But it's well worth bearing in mind for compositional purposes ! smile.gif

Thanks for being part of this collab !!




Posted by: dark_dude Sep 23 2013, 05:03 PM

Hah, you put that together nice and quickly! biggrin.gif

The sweep is a standard 5 string minor sweep with the high E 24th and 22nd tapped (I may have also pulled off onto the open string after 24/22-19-15). Part near the end is a 3 nps pentatonic tapped lick with an extra note slapped on, over the E and B, as I'm sure you know, hehe.

Had to restrain myself to fill the thing with technical difficulties lead licks - which is where the Satch-style stuff comes from here.

On tone, I usually pick something that's acceptable and don't tweak it. Have very little experience in shaping tone (as when I've tried in the past, I couldn't get far), but will take note for the future, thanks!

Posted by: Gitarrero Sep 23 2013, 05:35 PM

zanks Ben!

Yeah, I also felt I was meanering a bit, maybe the backing track was too long or my imagination too weak. Nah, let's blame it on das backing track! tongue.gif

And no, you zis was not das riff you were looking for. Move along!

Posted by: WeePee Sep 23 2013, 05:46 PM

QUOTE (Gitarrero @ Sep 23 2013, 07:35 PM) *
And no, you zis was not das riff you were looking for. Move along!



Mentioning quotes from star wars, is he. rolleyes.gif


Yep, nice collab mix, again smile.gif Can we expect more ?? Collabs...





bitte ??


Posted by: Gitarrero Sep 23 2013, 08:21 PM

Yeah well, nerds will love the quote.

And Ben actually owes us like 22 or even 23 collabs for all das Bier some angels sent him.

And these ducks demand a video collab. You don't wanna make them mad, do you?



 

Posted by: WeePee Sep 23 2013, 08:40 PM

QUOTE (Gitarrero @ Sep 23 2013, 10:21 PM) *
Yeah well, nerds will love the quote.


Hey !? I'm a nerd and proud of it wink.gif

Posted by: Ben Higgins Sep 24 2013, 09:10 AM

The cat and ducks were not necessary.. I was already planning the next collab.

But... they did help biggrin.gif

Posted by: dark_dude Sep 24 2013, 11:33 AM

Haha, you guys.

Can't wait for the next one : D

Posted by: Todd Simpson Sep 24 2013, 10:51 PM

WELL DONE GUYS!!! They have a great point Benster!! It's time for a full on VIDEO COLLAB ALA BEN!!!!!


Todd

QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ Sep 24 2013, 04:10 AM) *
The cat and ducks were not necessary.. I was already planning the next collab.

But... they did help biggrin.gif


Posted by: Ulrik Sep 28 2013, 02:24 PM

QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ Sep 23 2013, 05:43 PM) *
Ulrik Like Gitarrero, some lines can be meandering so finding the chord tones will help you.



Maybe you can elaborate? Do I use notes that are not fitting the chords or is it something else?

Posted by: Ben Higgins Sep 28 2013, 03:08 PM

QUOTE (Ulrik @ Sep 28 2013, 02:24 PM) *
Maybe you can elaborate? Do I use notes that are not fitting the chords or is it something else?


I've just listened back to your take and I don't know what I was talking about ?! rolleyes.gif

Ignore what I said - I must have been tired that day dry.gif

Posted by: Ulrik Sep 28 2013, 04:20 PM

QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ Sep 28 2013, 04:08 PM) *
I've just listened back to your take and I don't know what I was talking about ?! rolleyes.gif

Ignore what I said - I must have been tired that day dry.gif



Thanks smile.gif

Posted by: Trigger76 Jan 11 2016, 03:57 PM

Nice job lads, liked the little nod in there to Crazy Train around 59 secs in ;-). Some parts sound very Slayer too heheh good job.

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