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Jul 7 2007, 01:13 AM
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Are there multiple boxes for these scales too or no? Thanks.
It seems too easy to not have multiple boxes, but it would be nice! |
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Jul 7 2007, 01:16 AM
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QUOTE (AIB234 @ Jul 6 2007, 08:13 PM)  Are there multiple boxes for these scales too or no? Thanks. It seems too easy to not have multiple boxes, but it would be nice! Well, yes and no ... You can figure out multiple boxes for 3nps, but it is better to start thinking about the fretboard as a unit when you get to this stage - as an example, look at Pavels Speed Picking #1 lesson - that is all 3nps, but he takes you through all of the possible boxes on the top 3 string so that you start to get a feel for the fretboard. Thinking on boxes is a useful way to get started but is ultimately very limiting - I know this since its only since I've been here at GMC that I have truly broken my way out of the few boxes I knew, and it is very liberating! -------------------- Check out my Instructor profile
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Jul 7 2007, 01:23 AM
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QUOTE (Andrew Cockburn @ Jul 7 2007, 02:16 AM) Well, yes and no ... You can figure out multiple boxes for 3nps, but it is better to start thinking about the fretboard as a unit when you get to this stage - as an example, look at Pavels Speed Picking #1 lesson - that is all 3nps, but he takes you through all of the possible boxes on the top 3 string so that you start to get a feel for the fretboard. Thinking on boxes is a useful way to get started but is ultimately very limiting - I know this since its only since I've been here at GMC that I have truly broken my way out of the few boxes I knew, and it is very liberating! Great answer Andrew! Exactly - you learn the boxes but later you know the sound of them and you can play it all by ear - you'll know if you play something wrong!! Of course there are boxes but learning the sound of major scale is much more important. I had same problems in the beginning - now i am where i am. So trust me - just practice those alternate picking lessons and with time you'll get the feeling of fretboard!  Good luck! -------------------- "It isn't how many years you have been playing, it's how many hours." -- Prashant Aswani "PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE!" -- Michael Angelo Batio Check out my video lessons and instructor board! |
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Jul 7 2007, 01:28 AM
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Thanks for the quick replies guys!
This post has been edited by AIB234: Jul 7 2007, 01:29 AM |
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Jul 7 2007, 02:36 AM
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QUOTE (Pavel @ Jul 6 2007, 08:23 PM) but learning the sound of major scale is much more important. That's exactly it, only just realized it when I saw your post - you get to a stage where you know instinctively what note of the scale you are on, and you think to your self in less than a millisecond, ok, my next note is going to be this I know I am here so I have to play up 3 frets or whatever. Hours and hours of training with the boxes gets you ready for that leap. -------------------- Check out my Instructor profile
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Jul 11 2007, 11:53 AM
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I think the penatonic scale is the most important as its the only scal i know and care about....
Whats the point of learning major, minor, modes and all when theyre rarely used in the metal genre. For people who listen to country, blues and all get down to those scales.... -------------------- __________________________
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Jul 11 2007, 05:19 PM
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Marty Friedman also uses major and minor scales as well as arpeggios all the time, and I consider his playing "metal" :)
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Jul 11 2007, 05:56 PM
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QUOTE (AIB234 @ Jul 11 2007, 03:54 PM) I'm also willing to bet that my favourite guitarists like Petrucci, Malmsteen, and whoever else use more than just a pentatonic scale And as said above, I'd like to play more than just a pentatonic scale. It's not that much more effort to learn the other boxes, eventually the 3nps will come and then I'll know my fretboard inside and out and turn the pentatonic scales inside and out in my sleep. Pentatonics can be killer stuff if played in 3nps patterns. Basically it's connecting of 2 pentatonic boxes but you can than do crazy stuff with it! Watch Rusty's EXTREME PENTATONICS instructional! -------------------- "It isn't how many years you have been playing, it's how many hours." -- Prashant Aswani "PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE!" -- Michael Angelo Batio Check out my video lessons and instructor board! |
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