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ElHombre View Member Profile	Oct 10 2013, 04:54 PM
Oct 10 2013, 04:54 PM	Learning Rock Star Posts: 770 Joined: 25-December 11	Hello I use EZ drummer, but I can almost only use 4/4 time signature. I is not possible atleast for me to change it in the actual daw. I was thinking of getting Superior drummer instead? good or not? You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Youtube Channel

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Storm Linnebjerg View Member Profile	Oct 10 2013, 05:25 PM
Oct 10 2013, 05:25 PM	Learning Rock Star Posts: 7.676 Joined: 14-June 08 From: Odense, Denmark	Superior Drummer is brilliant, but I think it would be just as wise to learn to edit from 4/4 in the DAW. I know that's possible anyway. You could also create your own drum tracks. I have Superior Drummer though and I like it. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Check out my TikTok! - or check out my GMC video comments on YouTube

Gabriel Leopardi View Member Profile	Oct 10 2013, 08:11 PM
Oct 10 2013, 08:11 PM	Instructor Posts: 36.043 Joined: 3-March 07 From: Argentina	Exactly! The meter must be changed with the Daw... what software are you using? You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My lessons Do you need a Guitar Plan? Join Gab's Army Check my band:Cirse Check my soundcloud:Soundcloud Please subscribe to my:Youtube Channel

Sinisa Cekic View Member Profile	Oct 10 2013, 10:04 PM
Oct 10 2013, 10:04 PM	Instructor Posts: 4.649 Joined: 15-October 08 From: Belgrade,Serbia	I recently started to use Abbey road. Maybe my ears are too used to a AD and EZ, so this sounds fantastic and fresh ! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My lessons My FaceBook My Band FaceBook

Bogdan Radovic View Member Profile	Oct 10 2013, 10:27 PM
Oct 10 2013, 10:27 PM	Bass & Beginner Instructor Posts: 15.614 Joined: 30-November 07 From: Belgrade, Serbia	QUOTE (ElHombre @ Oct 10 2013, 05:54 PM) Hello I use EZ drummer, but I can almost only use 4/4 time signature. I is not possible atleast for me to change it in the actual daw. I was thinking of getting Superior drummer instead? good or not? I'm not sure I understood what you meant with "I can almost only use 4/4 time signature"? Superior drummer is pretty much just an upgrade over ez drummer in terms of samples and somewhat flexibility. All these VSTs do is play your midi tracks you assign to them, they are both capable of playing any groove and time signature. I think you might need to solve the time signature in the DAW setup and also maybe get some add-on midi groove packs that you can use with ez drummer (or superior) which feature other than 4/4 time signatures. I don't think Superior Drummer is worth upgrade only for the built in midi groove library it comes with. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- For GMC support please email support (at) guitarmasterclass.net Check out my lessons and my instructor board. Check out my beginner guitar lessons course! ; Take a bass course now!

Ben Higgins View Member Profile	Oct 11 2013, 08:15 AM
Oct 11 2013, 08:15 AM	Instructor Posts: 13.792 Joined: 11-March 10 From: England	QUOTE (Bogdan Radovic @ Oct 10 2013, 10:27 PM) I'm not sure I understood what you meant with "I can almost only use 4/4 time signature"? Superior drummer is pretty much just an upgrade over ez drummer in terms of samples and somewhat flexibility. All these VSTs do is play your midi tracks you assign to them, they are both capable of playing any groove and time signature. I think you might need to solve the time signature in the DAW setup and also maybe get some add-on midi groove packs that you can use with ez drummer (or superior) which feature other than 4/4 time signatures. I don't think Superior Drummer is worth upgrade only for the built in midi groove library it comes with. Yes. This Bogdan is right. You should be able to change the time signature. In Cubase, I change it on the main command panel. I just click in there, and type in 6/8 or whatever. If the track has multiple time changes, it's a job for the tempo track ! All DAWs are going to be different but they still share basic features. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Lessons My Youtube Channel My Band

Cosmin Lupu View Member Profile	Oct 11 2013, 09:34 AM
Oct 11 2013, 09:34 AM	Instructor Posts: 22.808 Joined: 14-June 10 From: Bucharest	Ben pointed things right But it depends on what DAW you are using. All DAWs have that transport zone that Ben showed you and near the metronome settings there, you can change the time signature Tell us - what sort of DAW you are using? You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My lessons We can work on YOUR GUITAR and MUSIC development TOGETHER. Write me a private message if you wish to! Please subscribe to my Youtube Channel Days Of Confusion Facebook Page Mozart Rocks My facebook page

ElHombre View Member Profile	Oct 12 2013, 08:34 PM
Oct 12 2013, 08:34 PM	Learning Rock Star Posts: 770 Joined: 25-December 11	I use reaper. Maybe Im wrong, but for me changing it in the bar below the tracks (where u also change tempo) didnt work Also insert time signature/tempo change didnt work either You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Youtube Channel

Todd Simpson View Member Profile	Oct 12 2013, 08:55 PM
Oct 12 2013, 08:55 PM	GMC:er Posts: 25.297 Joined: 23-December 09 From: Atlanta, Georgia, USA	You can change time signature/temp in reaper as many times as you want within a given project Here is a screen grab of where to click. QUOTE (ElHombre @ Oct 12 2013, 03:34 PM) I use reaper. Maybe Im wrong, but for me changing it in the bar below the tracks (where u also change tempo) didnt work Also insert time signature/tempo change didnt work either You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- EVERY QUICK LICK! http://bit.ly/quicklickswithtodd MY INSTRUCTOR FORUM MY SHRED JOURNEY (BOOTCAMP) LESSON NOTES/TABS MY INSTRUCTOR PROFILE @ GMC ME @ YOUTUBE.com ME @ Instagram.com ME @ TWITTER

ElHombre View Member Profile	Oct 13 2013, 12:03 PM
Oct 13 2013, 12:03 PM	Learning Rock Star Posts: 770 Joined: 25-December 11	Thank Todd but that did not work at all for me, I have used it before and I can only seem to change the tempo, never the signature. I feel like im missing something, something u have already expected me to do to get it to work but i have not done When working with projects i only drag the actual grooves out to the track Well the bars change when I do this, but actual drums remain the same You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! This post has been edited by ElHombre: Oct 13 2013, 12:04 PM -------------------- My Youtube Channel

Cosmin Lupu View Member Profile	Oct 13 2013, 12:49 PM
Oct 13 2013, 12:49 PM	Instructor Posts: 22.808 Joined: 14-June 10 From: Bucharest	QUOTE (ElHombre @ Oct 13 2013, 11:03 AM) Thank Todd but that did not work at all for me, I have used it before and I can only seem to change the tempo, never the signature. I feel like im missing something, something u have already expected me to do to get it to work but i have not done When working with projects i only drag the actual grooves out to the track Well the bars change when I do this, but actual drums remain the same I think I know what your trouble is - are you writing the drum grooves from scratch in the DAW over the newly set time signature grid? You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My lessons We can work on YOUR GUITAR and MUSIC development TOGETHER. Write me a private message if you wish to! Please subscribe to my Youtube Channel Days Of Confusion Facebook Page Mozart Rocks My facebook page

ElHombre View Member Profile	Oct 13 2013, 04:58 PM
Oct 13 2013, 04:58 PM	Learning Rock Star Posts: 770 Joined: 25-December 11	QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Oct 13 2013, 12:49 PM) I think I know what your trouble is - are you writing the drum grooves from scratch in the DAW over the newly set time signature grid? I am not writing them Just "dragging" ready made grooves You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Youtube Channel

Cosmin Lupu View Member Profile	Oct 13 2013, 05:10 PM
Oct 13 2013, 05:10 PM	Instructor Posts: 22.808 Joined: 14-June 10 From: Bucharest	QUOTE (ElHombre @ Oct 13 2013, 03:58 PM) I am not writing them Just "dragging" ready made grooves Well, that solves your problem You should write them from scratch according to the time signature that you set beforehand. It will most likely work You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My lessons We can work on YOUR GUITAR and MUSIC development TOGETHER. Write me a private message if you wish to! Please subscribe to my Youtube Channel Days Of Confusion Facebook Page Mozart Rocks My facebook page

Gabriel Leopardi View Member Profile	Oct 13 2013, 05:17 PM
Oct 13 2013, 05:17 PM	Instructor Posts: 36.043 Joined: 3-March 07 From: Argentina	I think that Cosmin found the problem. Most of the loops that include EZ library are in 4/4, there are just a few in 6/8 and 3/4. If you need loops in other meters you will have to write them or search for midi files. If you download loops and want to find them in EZ drummer, you have to copy the files here: C:\Program Files (x86)\Toontrack\EZDrummer\Midi\MY MIDIFILES Ok, I hope that this solves the issue, if not keep on giving us information. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My lessons Do you need a Guitar Plan? Join Gab's Army Check my band:Cirse Check my soundcloud:Soundcloud Please subscribe to my:Youtube Channel

Todd Simpson View Member Profile	Oct 13 2013, 07:16 PM
Oct 13 2013, 07:16 PM	GMC:er Posts: 25.297 Joined: 23-December 09 From: Atlanta, Georgia, USA	BINGO!! Cosmin Nailed it If you are dragging midi grooves on to the timeline, they will just sit there being whatever they were created in. You can change the time signature like I showed you in the example before you put the groove in though and have as many time signature changes on a give track as you like. But dragging grooves on then trying to change the signature is probably not your best bet. QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Oct 13 2013, 12:10 PM) Well, that solves your problem You should write them from scratch according to the time signature that you set beforehand. It will most likely work You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- EVERY QUICK LICK! http://bit.ly/quicklickswithtodd MY INSTRUCTOR FORUM MY SHRED JOURNEY (BOOTCAMP) LESSON NOTES/TABS MY INSTRUCTOR PROFILE @ GMC ME @ YOUTUBE.com ME @ Instagram.com ME @ TWITTER

Barthandelus View Member Profile	Oct 13 2013, 07:31 PM
Oct 13 2013, 07:31 PM	GMC:er Posts: 31 Joined: 16-September 13	Great topic, interesting stuff. I have never really thought about making my own drum tracks - might give it a go now! So it looks like Superior Drummer is the way forward. Do i need a DAW as well? Is Reaper good enough, or would something from Cubase be better / easier? I take it SD contains loads of loops that can then be edited in the DAW? You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

ElHombre View Member Profile	Oct 13 2013, 07:48 PM
Oct 13 2013, 07:48 PM	Learning Rock Star Posts: 770 Joined: 25-December 11	QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Oct 13 2013, 05:10 PM) Well, that solves your problem You should write them from scratch according to the time signature that you set beforehand. It will most likely work The only thing I have ever programmed for drums is a few "count ins" in 4/4 I would be more than lost unfortunatley You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Youtube Channel

Cosmin Lupu View Member Profile	Oct 14 2013, 08:16 AM
Oct 14 2013, 08:16 AM	Instructor Posts: 22.808 Joined: 14-June 10 From: Bucharest	QUOTE (ElHombre @ Oct 13 2013, 06:48 PM) The only thing I have ever programmed for drums is a few "count ins" in 4/4 I would be more than lost unfortunatley Mate - it's very simple The first step would be to analyze a simple groove and re-write it so that you may understand how things work - you open up the piano grid and if that channel has the drum pluggin assigned, each piano key (the black and white ones on the left side) will have a drum element assigned - of course, if you say you have written the 1,2,3,4 hi hats you have done this at the most incipient level Now, try it with the simplest groove - listen to it and try to emulate it on the grid. The grid is divided into rhythmic subdivisions as you will choose them, but it's better to set it on 16th notes Please let me know if there are questions and I'll gladly help further. QUOTE (Barthandelus @ Oct 13 2013, 06:31 PM) Great topic, interesting stuff. I have never really thought about making my own drum tracks - might give it a go now! So it looks like Superior Drummer is the way forward. Do i need a DAW as well? Is Reaper good enough, or would something from Cubase be better / easier? I take it SD contains loads of loops that can then be edited in the DAW? Mate - as I said, it's better to learn how to write a groove from scratch, rather than be confined in using pre made loops. You need a DAW, having the SD assigned to a midi channel, on which you will start writing the drum groove. Reaper is very good so, please try this and once you do it, open up the piano roll or events grid how it's called and follow these steps: he first step would be to analyze a simple groove and re-write it so that you may understand how things work - you open up the piano grid and if that channel has the drum pluggin assigned, each piano key (the black and white ones on the left side) will have a drum element assigned - of course, if you say you have written the 1,2,3,4 hi hats you have done this at the most incipient level Now, try it with the simplest groove - listen to it and try to emulate it on the grid. The process is pretty nicely described in here: The grid is divided into rhythmic subdivisions as you will choose them, but it's better to set it on 16th notes What do you think? Cosmin You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My lessons We can work on YOUR GUITAR and MUSIC development TOGETHER. Write me a private message if you wish to! Please subscribe to my Youtube Channel Days Of Confusion Facebook Page Mozart Rocks My facebook page

Barthandelus View Member Profile	Oct 14 2013, 09:22 AM
Oct 14 2013, 09:22 AM	GMC:er Posts: 31 Joined: 16-September 13	Cool stuff! Can i lay down a backing track in Cubase / Reaper as well? Like a bass line and strings? You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Cosmin Lupu View Member Profile	Oct 15 2013, 08:15 AM
Oct 15 2013, 08:15 AM	Instructor Posts: 22.808 Joined: 14-June 10 From: Bucharest	QUOTE (Barthandelus @ Oct 14 2013, 08:22 AM) Cool stuff! Can i lay down a backing track in Cubase / Reaper as well? Like a bass line and strings? Yes - for certain It's all a matter of assigning the right pluggin (strings, bass, synth .. etc) on a separate track and writing it in the same manner as you write the drums The possibilities are endless - but that's the whole fun in it You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My lessons We can work on YOUR GUITAR and MUSIC development TOGETHER. Write me a private message if you wish to! Please subscribe to my Youtube Channel Days Of Confusion Facebook Page Mozart Rocks My facebook page

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