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Posted by: Praetorian Sep 22 2010, 12:53 AM

I have heard settings that give a guitar an almost duplicated sound like there are two guitars playing the same thing. There isn't delay, it is simultaneous. Anyone know what this is?

Posted by: OzRob Sep 22 2010, 12:56 AM

Not sure exactly what sound you mean but typically a pitch shifter or octaver is used to create a harmony.

Posted by: ZakkWylde Sep 22 2010, 01:01 AM

Pitch shifter or harmonizers can do what you want

Posted by: Praetorian Sep 22 2010, 01:18 AM

Thanks guys!

Posted by: Azzaboi Sep 22 2010, 01:42 AM

That's what one of the things I was trying to attempt in this guitar trick:
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=36698

From what I learnt, it's like the others said:
Use a whammy pedal with harmonize set to produce notes a perfect 5th higher makes it sound like two guitars playing over each other. It's a pretty kewl effect. I was previously trying to use delays, echo, etc, but not as effective.

Posted by: Todd Simpson Sep 22 2010, 03:22 PM

Great responses guys! wink.gif Yeah, all of the above will do the trick. You can of course mix and max these effects as well depending on your hardware/software.

Todd

Posted by: Bogdan Radovic Sep 22 2010, 04:56 PM

Yes octaver , pitch shifter and harmonizer pedals can do this. They will add another guitar "track" on top but in different interval/pitch. All depends on the need.

Posted by: Jerry Arcidiacono Sep 22 2010, 06:55 PM

Some multi-FXs have some patches which work with some kind of ADT (Automatic Double Tracking) algorithm.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_double_tracking

If you have a stereo output, one of the channel is slightly delayed to get that full sound.

Posted by: Praetorian Sep 30 2010, 04:39 PM

Cool! I currently play through a POD Studio GX into my PC. Are there any tools in the POD that can achieve this?

Posted by: Adrian Figallo Oct 2 2010, 04:17 AM

hey man, well i think u mean doubling, this is pretty easy and i guess you POD got the tools to make it (not sure tho), but i make it all the time guitar rig when i dont have the time to double, or when i'm looking for this particular sound, you need something like this:

Guitar -> Signal Splitted (Y BOX) ->

Then one signal going into an amp, set the amp as you wish.

The other signals goes to a delay, i use the purple one on GR4, signal 100% wet, feedback at 1% and time in like 7-10 ms, the higher the number the bigger the sound, BUT don't get over 10-12ms cause you will start to get a "chorus" effect. Now after the delay you can set the exact same amp, or another amp, experiment until you get something you like.

If the tones are different it will sound bigger, if they are close it will sound tighter.

Rock n Roll!

Posted by: austexs Oct 3 2010, 04:22 AM

QUOTE (Praetorian @ Sep 21 2010, 11:53 PM) *
I have heard settings that give a guitar and almost duplicated sound like there are two guitars playing the same thing. There isn't delay, it is simultaneous. Anyone know what this is?


I have a Pog2 made by Electro Harmonix.
Neat little toy. Rather expensive, I might add. ohmy.gif

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