What Are Your Strengths And Weaknesses On Guitar?
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What are your strengths and weaknesses on guitar?

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Phil66
Oct 18 2018, 03:54 PM
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Great topic, thanks Gab.

Strengths: I don't think I have strengths per se but I am not bad a hammer ons and pull offs, my alternate picking is ok up to a point and I can strum a 4/4 ok. I have my creative moments too.

Weaknesses:

Ear: My isn't very good. I can work out a simple solo but it takes hours finding the notes, I guess it's a case of doing more of it.

Bending: I can do the mechanical bend but getting it to pitch is my weakness. Related to the ear.

Vibrato: It's getting a bit better but needs a lot of work.

Improvising: When improvising, I can play longer notes and leave decent silences but in my mind I want to play a run of quick notes leading to a bend or something like. I can't seem to get the quick notes in time, I end up finishing the run too soon or too late or just falling over myself.
I'd also like to work on THIS kind of thing, maybe some examples and "homework" to develop this skill.

Fretboard/scale knowledge:
I guess this is linked to the above: When improvising, I tend to stick in one box position that is in the general key of the backing. I struggle to follow chords and when I do I keep the same scale shape and move it to suit the root. Some artists can stay in a similar area on the neck and change key. I think this is to do with the CAGED system. I've read through Andy Cockburn's articles about CAGED but I would like a practical course with examples and "homework".

Theory:
For some reason theory doesn't stay in my head. I tend to get confused by it. I'm still waiting for that light bulb moment. I guess I read too much in one go and don't apply it in a practical way to get it in my head. Maybe a long slow course from the basics, eg: Open chords and how they relate to any particular scale and gradually move into deeper things.

I'm sure I'll think of some more things very soon wink.gif

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Well, I've got a pretty good picking hand. Hand sych is pretty solid. I'd say my weak spot is probably non stop sweeps as I never got that in to playing them. They have made a big come back in recent years it seems. I see wads of vids of folks doing nothing but sweeps all the way up and down the neck. These vids get huge views but honestly it just sounds like an arpegiator on a keyboard to me or maybe an 8 bit video game sound track. Maybe because there is no vibrato to speak of, it's hard for me to connect to it musically.

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Oct 19 2018, 10:22 AM
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I am sucky rhythm guitarist! I think I can write the rhythm parts though, but I am just not solid enough at performing them.

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I think I'm more or less the opposite of Phil here (except perhaps for the improvisation).

My ear is pretty good, I do bends and pre-bends well and my vibrato is decent. My theory is solid, probably more music theory in general than guitar in particular.

I suck at alternate picking, especially outside picking (all inside works fine occasionally). My hands are too weak for hammer-ons and pull-offs (but it improves vastly when Piotr's lesson makes it into my routine). I can't play rhythm, I can't strum, and I can't improvise (always had to pre-compose solos for collabs etc).

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Oct 19 2018, 01:47 PM
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Maybe I'm wrong but, I think pre bends are more of a mechanical knowledge of your guitar than having a good ear. You can't hear them before you pick the string. Having said that, I guess you need a decent ear to learn how much to bend the string for a pre bend. Maybe I'm missing something huh.gif

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I suppose the ear is needed mostly when starting incorporating bends, then accurate pre-bends come with time once you get into your hands about how much tension to add for half/whole/etc notes.

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Yeah that's what I was thinking after I posted wink.gif

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Gabriel Leopardi
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QUOTE (Phil66 @ Oct 18 2018, 11:54 AM) *
Great topic, thanks Gab.

Strengths: I don't think I have strengths per se but I am not bad a hammer ons and pull offs, my alternate picking is ok up to a point and I can strum a 4/4 ok. I have my creative moments too.

Weaknesses:

Ear: My isn't very good. I can work out a simple solo but it takes hours finding the notes, I guess it's a case of doing more of it.

Bending: I can do the mechanical bend but getting it to pitch is my weakness. Related to the ear.

Vibrato: It's getting a bit better but needs a lot of work.

Improvising: When improvising, I can play longer notes and leave decent silences but in my mind I want to play a run of quick notes leading to a bend or something like. I can't seem to get the quick notes in time, I end up finishing the run too soon or too late or just falling over myself.
I'd also like to work on THIS kind of thing, maybe some examples and "homework" to develop this skill.

Fretboard/scale knowledge:
I guess this is linked to the above: When improvising, I tend to stick in one box position that is in the general key of the backing. I struggle to follow chords and when I do I keep the same scale shape and move it to suit the root. Some artists can stay in a similar area on the neck and change key. I think this is to do with the CAGED system. I've read through Andy Cockburn's articles about CAGED but I would like a practical course with examples and "homework".

Theory:
For some reason theory doesn't stay in my head. I tend to get confused by it. I'm still waiting for that light bulb moment. I guess I read too much in one go and don't apply it in a practical way to get it in my head. Maybe a long slow course from the basics, eg: Open chords and how they relate to any particular scale and gradually move into deeper things.

I'm sure I'll think of some more things very soon wink.gif



This is a very interesting topic Phil, with lots of ideas for lessons. We will definitely work on this stuff. By now we can write down different "tittles" for this topics/goals and work on them at the mentoring program. There are a few exercises that could help you a lot with some of these ideas.

What do you say?



PS: Most of those things are related.

QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Oct 18 2018, 04:50 PM) *
Well, I've got a pretty good picking hand. Hand sych is pretty solid. I'd say my weak spot is probably non stop sweeps as I never got that in to playing them. They have made a big come back in recent years it seems. I see wads of vids of folks doing nothing but sweeps all the way up and down the neck. These vids get huge views but honestly it just sounds like an arpegiator on a keyboard to me or maybe an 8 bit video game sound track. Maybe because there is no vibrato to speak of, it's hard for me to connect to it musically.



I want to see one of those endless sweep videos! smile.gif

By the way, how would you use the non stop sweeps?




QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Oct 19 2018, 06:22 AM) *
I am sucky rhythm guitarist! I think I can write the rhythm parts though, but I am just not solid enough at performing them.



I remember being able to play many Malmsteen songs when I was aroung 17 but I couldn't play rhythm guitar at all. I've started played with my first 'pro' band and I had big issues so I had to work hard at home to be able to play consitent rhythms. For any reason I enjoyed much more practicing soloing, but the real band with vocals situation made me know that I was going to be more time playing rhythm than solos. So many years playing in bands has been my training. However, there is always more room to get better at it.


QUOTE (HungryForHeaven @ Oct 19 2018, 07:26 AM) *
I think I'm more or less the opposite of Phil here (except perhaps for the improvisation).

My ear is pretty good, I do bends and pre-bends well and my vibrato is decent. My theory is solid, probably more music theory in general than guitar in particular.

I suck at alternate picking, especially outside picking (all inside works fine occasionally). My hands are too weak for hammer-ons and pull-offs (but it improves vastly when Piotr's lesson makes it into my routine). I can't play rhythm, I can't strum, and I can't improvise (always had to pre-compose solos for collabs etc).



Hi mate, great to see a post from you!! smile.gif

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Dude!!! Bootcamp is for you. All of the bits you mention are things that I've developed an entire course to fix. These are the same pieces that I used to work on these same issues. If you wanna join up, just shoot me a PM!!
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QUOTE (HungryForHeaven @ Oct 19 2018, 06:26 AM) *
I think I'm more or less the opposite of Phil here (except perhaps for the improvisation).

My ear is pretty good, I do bends and pre-bends well and my vibrato is decent. My theory is solid, probably more music theory in general than guitar in particular.

I suck at alternate picking, especially outside picking (all inside works fine occasionally). My hands are too weak for hammer-ons and pull-offs (but it improves vastly when Piotr's lesson makes it into my routine). I can't play rhythm, I can't strum, and I can't improvise (always had to pre-compose solos for collabs etc).


Per request here is an older vid of a guy sort of making fun of folks that go in to guitar center and do non stop sweeps. It's kinda funny smile.gif


this is a more recent one.


And here is me using a Sweep lick for a solo in one of your backing tracks!!! Instead of doing the trendy reach up with the finger to tap the high note, I just use the left hand to play it instead. That way you don't have to let go of your mute and you get the same effect/note. Just using a pinky to hit it instead of reaching up and using a tap/



QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Oct 19 2018, 09:40 AM) *
This is a very interesting topic Phil, with lots of ideas for lessons. We will definitely work on this

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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Oct 19 2018, 01:40 PM) *
Are you currently working on those topics?

No, I don't really play these days.

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EGAD!!! Why not? You were one of my favorite players? I really used to enjoy your collab solos?

Todd

QUOTE (HungryForHeaven @ Oct 21 2018, 05:24 AM) *
No, I don't really play these days.



EGAD!!! Why not? You were one of my favorite players? I really used to enjoy your collab solos?

Todd

QUOTE (HungryForHeaven @ Oct 21 2018, 05:24 AM) *
No, I don't really play these days.

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QUOTE (HungryForHeaven @ Oct 21 2018, 06:24 AM) *
No, I don't really play these days.



This is where you could start again: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...showtopic=59574

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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Oct 20 2018, 12:17 AM) *
Dude!!! Bootcamp is for you. All of the bits you mention are things that I've developed an entire course to fix. These are the same pieces that I used to work on these same issues. If you wanna join up, just shoot me a PM!!
Todd


Per request here is an older vid of a guy sort of making fun of folks that go in to guitar center and do non stop sweeps. It's kinda funny smile.gif


this is a more recent one.


And here is me using a Sweep lick for a solo in one of your backing tracks!!! Instead of doing the trendy reach up with the finger to tap the high note, I just use the left hand to play it instead. That way you don't have to let go of your mute and you get the same effect/note. Just using a pinky to hit it instead of reaching up and using a tap/



Cool stuff Todd. Your lick is cool! I'll go for it. smile.gif

Exploring that youtube channel I've found this cool video:



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Looks like I am late to this post but would like to share.

This thing Ive noticed most is my vibrato. I tend to use my finder much more than my wrist or Ill just use the back and forth method to get a faster vibrato. Being able to finish licks with at smooth fast vibrato is something i really want to work on.

My ear is the other. I love to improvise. I believe i should be using my ear to find what sounds good insted of noodling in a scale or with a chord. Decideing the "now what do i do" i rely on theory knowledge to guess where to go but almost always get lost after the intial riff or idea I had. I want to be able to play what i hear in my head. The music not the voices.

Chord extensions and variations is the other thing. I use the caged method to find the chords i need and the shapes in the position i am in. But when it comes to adding a 9 or a 7 or 11 and when to use dominant and not i get totally lost. Also modes have lost me all together. I thought i got how to use them but the more i focus on it the harder it gets. blah

Recently I have been playing Rhythm guitar in a rock band. I spent lots of time learing some songs and havent focused on practicing these skills. Time to get back to work on my Ultimate goal of guitar mastery.

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Something else I can't do, even after watching the video below, I'm lost. I think it would be great to have a series working from complete newcomer to this kind of playing, throwing just a couple of notes in here and there and build up to at least level 4 type lessons. What do you think?

https://youtu.be/OoE0PQNjW9Q

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Year ago I'd say I don't really have strengths, followed by a long list of weaknesses. Today, I'm of totally different attitude: My weaknesses are my strengths because overcoming them makes me stronger. One by one, they are the stepping stones for my growth as a musician. Is the word "weakness" really appropriate in this case? I also believe that perfection leaves no room for improvement, hence we should aim at perfection and seek out new challenges BUT never ever reach the perfection. It's boring above all else.

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QUOTE (Shaneb @ Oct 30 2018, 02:22 PM) *
Looks like I am late to this post but would like to share.

This thing Ive noticed most is my vibrato. I tend to use my finder much more than my wrist or Ill just use the back and forth method to get a faster vibrato. Being able to finish licks with at smooth fast vibrato is something i really want to work on.

My ear is the other. I love to improvise. I believe i should be using my ear to find what sounds good insted of noodling in a scale or with a chord. Decideing the "now what do i do" i rely on theory knowledge to guess where to go but almost always get lost after the intial riff or idea I had. I want to be able to play what i hear in my head. The music not the voices.

Chord extensions and variations is the other thing. I use the caged method to find the chords i need and the shapes in the position i am in. But when it comes to adding a 9 or a 7 or 11 and when to use dominant and not i get totally lost. Also modes have lost me all together. I thought i got how to use them but the more i focus on it the harder it gets. blah

Recently I have been playing Rhythm guitar in a rock band. I spent lots of time learing some songs and havent focused on practicing these skills. Time to get back to work on my Ultimate goal of guitar mastery.



Hi mate, I assume that you've only talked about the weakness, or things that you'd like to improve.

As you already now, diary practice is the key. You have some clear goals here:

- Improve Vibrato
- Improvisation - Innear Ear - Mind/Ear/Guitar connection
- Extended Chords
- Modes

You can build a diary routine that covers each of this topics for at least 10 minutes (each). I can help you designing it if you need any help, just let me know!



QUOTE (Phil66 @ Oct 30 2018, 03:04 PM) *
Something else I can't do, even after watching the video below, I'm lost. I think it would be great to have a series working from complete newcomer to this kind of playing, throwing just a couple of notes in here and there and build up to at least level 4 type lessons. What do you think?

https://youtu.be/OoE0PQNjW9Q



It's good idea Phil. In the meantime, I recommend you to work on this in smaller blocks for example, one chord at a time. Start one day with one chord, the second day with the second chord, and then, the third day combine both chords. Don't try to play / work the whole thing all together.


QUOTE (Adam M @ Nov 15 2018, 01:19 PM) *
Year ago I'd say I don't really have strengths, followed by a long list of weaknesses. Today, I'm of totally different attitude: My weaknesses are my strengths because overcoming them makes me stronger. One by one, they are the stepping stones for my growth as a musician. Is the word "weakness" really appropriate in this case? I also believe that perfection leaves no room for improvement, hence we should aim at perfection and seek out new challenges BUT never ever reach the perfection. It's boring above all else.



You see weaknesses as goals, I love your approach mate. smile.gif

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