Pedal Board/effect Chain Advice And Tips!, Here's my board!
derper
Jul 4 2012, 10:05 PM
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Here's my board!! Excuse the mess, I gig a lot and this is post-gig and I haven't cleaned it up yet. Also, the power supplies do/usually have zip ties and are actually pretty neat, but I've been swapping pedals in and out more than usual.

I just picked up the Mesa Boogie Bottle Rocket Tube Drive pedal 2 days ago, and it sounds so SWEEEET!! laugh.gif I'm in love!! I will end up using it in place of the HBE (Home Brewed Electronics) Power Screamer, which I heavily preferred over a tube screamer. We'll see....time and gigs will tell!

The red pedal is a Seymour Duncan pickup booster, which is mainly a clean boost. I leave it on always for non-EMULATOR shows. It also allows me a last-ditch volume boost if I'm playing live and underestimated my band's ability to rock louder after soundcheck, and I can't get to my amp on stage!! I just nudge the clean boost, and WHAM!! Way more volume (if needed) without sacrificing my clean headroom (funk!!).

I just picked up the modtone Extreme Metal, and traded in my MXR Fullbore Metal (too "scoopy") for it. I joked that I was looking for "half-bore, not FULLbore!!". I tried a few pedals, but the cheap Modtone was right on, and the EQ makes it very customizable (more so than the MXR, which also had many EQ knobs).

Standard crybaby wah.

Standard Boss Octave (OC-2 I think)

Standard Ernie Ball Volume, which my crappy korg tuner plugs into direct.

Standard crappy power supply, and no "one-spot". dry.gif

I dig the tone I get, but I notice that many guitarists go into volume pedal first. I didn't like the result as much, but haven't experimented with different chains/order in a while. I guess since it works, I never when back and played with the order again, except when I get a new effect like Envelope Filter (got rid of the vintage Q-tron....to "Jerry Garcia" for my taste!!).

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Max Sokolov
Jul 4 2012, 10:17 PM
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Placing volume pedal first in chain have no benefits, imho - you'll have same effect as guitar volume knob.
I use this scheme, it's pretty logical - "tuner - filter - dynamics - modulation - clean boost (for solos, etc) - volume pedal - delay - reverb"

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Todd Simpson
Jul 6 2012, 02:27 AM
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GREAT Point here by our new Instructor! Putting the volume pedal at the head is probably not your best bet unless you have very specific reasons, and in which case you'd probably need another at the end of the chain which gets wonky.

And BINGO on the effects stack IMHO

tuner - filter - dynamics - modulation - clean boost (for solos, etc) - volume pedal - delay - reverb

If you (for example) st your reverb ahead of your dynamics, your revert tail gets compressed/expanded. Just one example.This is a great guideline for live signal path.

Todd

QUOTE (Max Sokolov @ Jul 4 2012, 05:17 PM) *
Placing volume pedal first in chain have no benefits, imho - you'll have same effect as guitar volume knob.
I use this scheme, it's pretty logical - "tuner - filter - dynamics - modulation - clean boost (for solos, etc) - volume pedal - delay - reverb"

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derper
Jul 6 2012, 02:54 AM
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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Jul 5 2012, 06:27 PM) *
GREAT Point here by our new Instructor! Putting the volume pedal at the head is probably not your best bet unless you have very specific reasons, and in which case you'd probably need another at the end of the chain which gets wonky.

And BINGO on the effects stack IMHO

tuner - filter - dynamics - modulation - clean boost (for solos, etc) - volume pedal - delay - reverb

If you (for example) st your reverb ahead of your dynamics, your revert tail gets compressed/expanded. Just one example.This is a great guideline for live signal path.

Todd


Could you/some clarify this... "tuner - filter - dynamics - modulation - clean boost (for solos, etc) - volume pedal - delay - reverb" in terms of my pedal setup, please?

For example, when you say "filter", would my wah be considered that? Or when I used to have an envelop filter, which is a similar effect. Sorry, I guess I'm just not sure also what my mesa bottle rocket/power screamer/extreme metal would be either (dynamics?) in that description either.

It's funny how I've played for so long, but without much input from real guitarists. So, I occasionally "oust" myself with a "dumb" question like this. (I realize that there is no "dumb" question, I'm never too afraid to ask!!)

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Max Sokolov
Jul 6 2012, 04:55 AM
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QUOTE (derper @ Jul 6 2012, 01:54 AM) *
Could you/some clarify this... "tuner - filter - dynamics - modulation - clean boost (for solos, etc) - volume pedal - delay - reverb" in terms of my pedal setup, please?

For example, when you say "filter", would my wah be considered that? Or when I used to have an envelop filter, which is a similar effect. Sorry, I guess I'm just not sure also what my mesa bottle rocket/power screamer/extreme metal would be either (dynamics?) in that description either.

It's funny how I've played for so long, but without much input from real guitarists. So, I occasionally "oust" myself with a "dumb" question like this. (I realize that there is no "dumb" question, I'm never too afraid to ask!!)

Yes, wah pedal is filter, as well, as envelope filter pedals.
Compressor, od\dist, various boosters are dynamic processing, so, you're right wink.gif

Also, speaking about compressors - I never had this type of pedals, but used to see it in the beginning of "dynamics" section of various guys.
Now I have compressor in my axe fx and use it on my clean sounds slightly, placing after amp and cab blocks - it works well for me.

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QUOTE (Max Sokolov @ Jul 6 2012, 03:55 AM) *
Yes, wah pedal is filter, as well, as envelope filter pedals.
Compressor, od\dist, various boosters are dynamic processing, so, you're right wink.gif

Also, speaking about compressors - I never had this type of pedals, but used to see it in the beginning of "dynamics" section of various guys.
Now I have compressor in my axe fx and use it on my clean sounds slightly, placing after amp and cab blocks - it works well for me.

What kind of compressor do you have? I was thinking of getting one I tried Keeley and was pretty impressed by it!

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Max Sokolov
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QUOTE (Alex Feather @ Jul 7 2012, 05:43 AM) *
What kind of compressor do you have? I was thinking of getting one I tried Keeley and was pretty impressed by it!

I use internal Axe FX compressor - it does its job very well.
I tried Keeley compressor and was impressed too!

Also I was completely blown out by dbx 160x in this video, but it's a rack device.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3I6euvvLFc...player_embedded

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QUOTE (Max Sokolov @ Jul 7 2012, 06:01 AM) *
I use internal Axe FX compressor - it does its job very well.
I tried Keeley compressor and was impressed too!

Also I was completely blown out by dbx 160x in this video, but it's a rack device.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3I6euvvLFc...player_embedded

I have AXE FX as well as a few pedalboards but I am not very comfortable with using Fractal live so I have to bring pedals! smile.gif

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QUOTE (Alex Feather @ Jul 7 2012, 06:53 AM) *
I have AXE FX as well as a few pedalboards but I am not very comfortable with using Fractal live so I have to bring pedals! smile.gif

Yes, it's not good to lose an opportunity of quick on-stage tweaking, but a good amp is a rarity in russian clubs laugh.gif , so I prefer using Axe.
Still tweaking it a little on soundchecks.

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QUOTE (Max Sokolov @ Jul 7 2012, 01:16 PM) *
Yes, it's not good to lose an opportunity of quick on-stage tweaking, but a good amp is a rarity in russian clubs laugh.gif , so I prefer using Axe.
Still tweaking it a little on soundchecks.

Oh yeah! Tell me about Russian clubs! We recently went on tour there and half of the clubs didn't have two amps as we requested on the rider! Also another funny thing that I have noticed what's up with sound guys pointing amps sideways??? Towards musicians instead of the audience? I have never seen anything like that!

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