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Posted by: BJJSchecter Apr 4 2008, 12:24 AM

Hello,

I've been looking for some more description of the effect of changing treble, bass, mid, gain etc.... Looking for a more theoretical and hands on description of these settings. What is the effect of changing the settings and what do you get out of it??

Thanks a bunch!

If the info is need I have a Koch Multitone (http://www.koch-amps.com/) and Schecter C-1 30th Anniversary (http://www.schecterguitars.com/index.asp)

Posted by: RIP Dime Apr 4 2008, 06:24 AM

I can't give you a good description of the controls effect, but I can tell you how I set mine.
I just put all my settings on 0, play a chord and turn the treble up till I hear a swell in the sound, then I do the same with the bass and mids. It tends to give me a good EVH sound, and IMO EVH had the best distorted guitar tone ever.

Posted by: audiopaal Apr 4 2008, 07:08 AM

QUOTE (BJJSchecter @ Apr 4 2008, 01:24 AM) *
Hello,

I've been looking for some more description of the effect of changing treble, bass, mid, gain etc.... Looking for a more theoretical and hands on description of these settings. What is the effect of changing the settings and what do you get out of it??

Thanks a bunch!

If the info is need I have a Koch Multitone (http://www.koch-amps.com/) and Schecter C-1 30th Anniversary (http://www.schecterguitars.com/index.asp)



Off-topic: You have the Schecter C-1 30th Anniversary? Oh man, I wanted that guitar so bad when they were released but couldn't get hold of one... Lucky bastard biggrin.gif

Posted by: BJJSchecter Apr 4 2008, 06:17 PM

QUOTE (audiopaal @ Apr 3 2008, 11:08 PM) *
Off-topic: You have the Schecter C-1 30th Anniversary? Oh man, I wanted that guitar so bad when they were released but couldn't get hold of one... Lucky bastard biggrin.gif


You know, I was in the Navy and played accoustic for a long time, since it was difficult to lug an amp onboard ship and an electric guitar. Anyways a couple years back I finally decided to get an amp and start playing electric...I was going to get a Gibson Les Paul, my buddy had one and I loved it. The sticker shock hurt, but I was still on my way to get a LP. I had a friend working at the music store and they just happened to have a couple 30th anniversaries...he told me try them out and it was love at first sight. I was glad I made the choice and I am pretty impressed with the Schecter's even though though are made in S. Korea, though the engineering was done in the states. I would say if you see one on Ebay or Craigslist...go after it.

Posted by: Milenkovic Ivan Apr 4 2008, 07:05 PM

I don't really understand, do you want to know something about EQing? In that case, the bass is controling the low sound frequency range (for example 40-300Hz), middle for middel range and treble for high range. Gain increases the overall output.

Posted by: audiopaal Apr 4 2008, 07:20 PM

I can believe the love at first sight, because it's one hell of a guitar smile.gif
I will, if I see one again smile.gif

Posted by: kevin-riff-after-riff Apr 4 2008, 07:59 PM

QUOTE (BJJSchecter @ Apr 4 2008, 06:17 PM) *
You know, I was in the Navy and played accoustic for a long time, since it was difficult to lug an amp onboard ship and an electric guitar. Anyways a couple years back I finally decided to get an amp and start playing electric...I was going to get a Gibson Les Paul, my buddy had one and I loved it. The sticker shock hurt, but I was still on my way to get a LP. I had a friend working at the music store and they just happened to have a couple 30th anniversaries...he told me try them out and it was love at first sight. I was glad I made the choice and I am pretty impressed with the Schecter's even though though are made in S. Korea, though the engineering was done in the states. I would say if you see one on Ebay or Craigslist...go after it.


heh note SOUTH korea i wonder what the guitars would look like if they were made in north korea... probably doesnt even qualify as a guitar any morem will be more like a blob. but anyway s korea now make some high quality guitars! like my fender tc-90, it plays and sounds nice wink.gif but anyway, lucky you with your damn c-1 anniversary dry.gif they dont even know about schecter around where i live lol

Posted by: BJJSchecter Apr 4 2008, 08:24 PM

QUOTE (Milenkovic Ivan @ Apr 4 2008, 11:05 AM) *
I don't really understand, do you want to know something about EQing? In that case, the bass is controling the low sound frequency range (for example 40-300Hz), middle for middel range and treble for high range. Gain increases the overall output.


Yes, that's what I am looking for but more in lay mans terms lol....what effect does it have on the sound when you change those settings..I understand gain and volume that's self explanetory just not getting the other settings.

Posted by: RIP Dime Apr 4 2008, 08:50 PM

QUOTE (BJJSchecter @ Apr 4 2008, 08:24 PM) *
Yes, that's what I am looking for but more in lay mans terms lol....what effect does it have on the sound when you change those settings..I understand gain and volume that's self explanetory just not getting the other settings.


Oh, I think I know what you mean, the more bass you dial the more boom, and punch you're gonna get out of your sound, bass also adds some thickness to your sound. If you dial down your bass you will get a tighter sound, so the bass notes respond very quickly, you can sort of feel it when you dial down the bass, right as soon as you hit a low note you hear it come out of the amp. So if you set your amp up with lots of bass you gets a real low end growl, and you'll also get more ground shaking boom, but dial in too much bass and you'll get a muddy ugly sound, and the notes will kind of "mush" together. If you set your amp up with a lower amount of bass, your low end will sound precise, clear and responsive. But turn the bass to low and you risk having a thin sound depending on the amp.

Now the treble controls the bite, or cut to your sound, to more of this you add to more clear and sharp you sound will get. For some reason, I know quite a few guitar players that think they need lots of treble to get a good lead sound, I completely disagree, too much treble and you will HURT peoples ears whenever you play on the high strings, your sound will be brittle and thin. Dialing down the treble results in less of that cut, and attack that treble gives you, dial it too low and you will sound like you are playing through a wah wah pedal opened up on the bass. Treble will also give you clarity if you run lots of bass and mids. Just don't overdo it.

Now the mid control controls the body of your sound, the more mids you dial in the thicker, and louder your sound will get. Setting up lots of mids will give you lots of crunch with lots of gain, it really adds a nice growl to your sound, and on the neck pickup your sound will become very thick, and smooth (think Satch,and Vai). But be careful ok, go to crazy with mids and you might get some muddiness, and notes will mush together (depending on your amp). Don't be scared of mids, they add alot to your sound.

Hope this helps.

Posted by: Smikey2006 Apr 4 2008, 09:18 PM

the reply above is a good 1 smile.gif i can't help much but i just wanted to post to a fellow Schecter owner smile.gif

Posted by: Hisham Apr 4 2008, 09:27 PM

its depend on what quality amp do you have

example: bass mid treble
8 4.5 7 oclock
6 3 5 oclock
7 4 3 oclock
9 7 6 oclock

try these settings..

Posted by: BJJSchecter Apr 4 2008, 09:28 PM

QUOTE (RIP Dime @ Apr 4 2008, 12:50 PM) *
Oh, I think I know what you mean, the more bass you dial the more boom, and punch you're gonna get out of your sound, bass also adds some thickness to your sound. If you dial down your bass you will get a tighter sound, so the bass notes respond very quickly, you can sort of feel it when you dial down the bass, right as soon as you hit a low note you hear it come out of the amp. So if you set your amp up with lots of bass you gets a real low end growl, and you'll also get more ground shaking boom, but dial in too much bass and you'll get a muddy ugly sound, and the notes will kind of "mush" together. If you set your amp up with a lower amount of bass, your low end will sound precise, clear and responsive. But turn the bass to low and you risk having a thin sound depending on the amp.

Now the treble controls the bite, or cut to your sound, to more of this you add to more clear and sharp you sound will get. For some reason, I know quite a few guitar players that think they need lots of treble to get a good lead sound, I completely disagree, too much treble and you will HURT peoples ears whenever you play on the high strings, your sound will be brittle and thin. Dialing down the treble results in less of that cut, and attack that treble gives you, dial it too low and you will sound like you are playing through a wah wah pedal opened up on the bass. Treble will also give you clarity if you run lots of bass and mids. Just don't overdo it.

Now the mid control controls the body of your sound, the more mids you dial in the thicker, and louder your sound will get. Setting up lots of mids will give you lots of crunch with lots of gain, it really adds a nice growl to your sound, and on the neck pickup your sound will become very thick, and smooth (think Satch,and Vai). But be careful ok, go to crazy with mids and you might get some muddiness, and notes will mush together (depending on your amp). Don't be scared of mids, they add alot to your sound.

Hope this helps.


OMG..thank you so much!!! That is exactly what I was looking for!!! Thanks for the awesome reply and explanation!

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the reply above is a good 1 i can't help much but i just wanted to post to a fellow Schecter owner


Love them Schecters....I have only played the C1 so far, but I often go on their site to see what new guitars they have, I am happy with mine and hopefully my next guitar will perform as superbly.

Posted by: RIP Dime Apr 4 2008, 09:41 PM

Cool man, glad I could help, if you need anything explained more just let me know. smile.gif

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