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Bone Nut Vs Plastic Nut
Cosmin Lupu
Sep 3 2012, 08:32 AM
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My PRS Mike Mushok FINALLY arrived back home after going through a general setup at the luthier/ guitar tech.

At my friend and band mate's advice, I asked the tech to install a bone nut instead of the plastic nut that was initially found on the guitar. In the mean time I have read a lot of reviews and it seems that the sound is significantly improved by that little nut. Incredible huh?

It seems that if the nut is made out of bone, not only are the strings less prone to cut through it but as I said above, the sound is better, having more clarity and fullness. I am excited to try a recording with the guitar and compare it with the recording I did last year with it for the PRS demo.

Have you guys ever had any experience in this particular issue? Were you able to feel/ tell any difference?

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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Sep 3 2012, 07:32 AM) *
My PRS Mike Mushok FINALLY arrived back home after going through a general setup at the luthier/ guitar tech.

At my friend and band mate's advice, I asked the tech to install a bone nut instead of the plastic nut that was initially found on the guitar. In the mean time I have read a lot of reviews and it seems that the sound is significantly improved by that little nut. Incredible huh?

It seems that if the nut is made out of bone, not only are the strings less prone to cut through it but as I said above, the sound is better, having more clarity and fullness. I am excited to try a recording with the guitar and compare it with the recording I did last year with it for the PRS demo.

Have you guys ever had any experience in this particular issue? Were you able to feel/ tell any difference?

Cosmin

I have read about the tone differences between bone and other materials I have never used one myself, I'll be curious to see if you can see/hear a difference. I like to read about things like this as I try to build a guitar now and then, and sometimes I think "what's better" for things like this is just what you prefer, or have gotten use to.

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I've installed a few Bone nuts, you can notice the difference. As bone is more 'dense' than plastic it transfers a better vibration through the neck to add to the natural resonance of the guitar. This is also why Brass ones are used too!!
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i think my strat has a bone nut.. don't even know. I hope it does tongue.gif

anyway, all i know is, the bone nut will probs keep the guitar in tune better than the plastic as there will be less friction or something. not sure though! I think the best kind of nut is the roller nut though. could be wrong.

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I believe that my Parker Nitefly has a graphite nut, and I absolutely love that guitar in every way.

Though I don't encourage people to go overboard or "overthink" it, I have personally experienced several "tone upgrades" over the years and I am now a firm believer that each individual should go on a "tone-quest" and try and find a setup that channels their individuality as a player.

For me, putting a gibson 335 pickup in my parker/getting into tube amps/getting a few choice, botique pedals/finding the right v-pick have all been crucial tone-upgrades, and each really wasn't THAT expensive.

So what I'm saying is....everyone that can, should explore upgrades like a bone-/nut, and more. You never know what LITTLE thing could make a LOT of difference in your playing!! biggrin.gif

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Indeed, exploring and trying stuff that seems insignificant at first glance can lead to great results - it's just like Todd said about placing a TS 808 in front of Mesa Boogie or Engl and making it sounds way better! The screamer actually makes the sound shinier and more compact - I can literally feel it in my hands - the Mesa is an amp which is not particularly friendly when soloing and the TS 808 makes things a lot easier tongue.gif

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I never knew bone nuts existed. tongue.gif

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Actually I don't even know what nuts I have on my Gibsons, I never changed them so they are the original ones that Gibson uses, whatever that might be. I also have heard a lot about bone, plastic or graphit nuts, but to be honest I never saw a need to mess with mine, I like the way my guitars sound so I don't see why I should change anything.

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QUOTE (flamen @ Sep 4 2012, 01:34 AM) *
i think my strat has a bone nut.. don't even know. I hope it does tongue.gif

anyway, all i know is, the bone nut will probs keep the guitar in tune better than the plastic as there will be less friction or something. not sure though! I think the best kind of nut is the roller nut though. could be wrong.

Standard Strat will be a plastic one. wink.gif

Roller Nuts are good, but only when used with Locking Tuners!
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QUOTE (Marcus Siepen @ Sep 5 2012, 10:40 AM) *
I like the way my guitars sound so I don't see why I should change anything.

Great advice Marcus!! If it ain't broke, don't fix it!!
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Exactly Jones. After all changing a nut is not something like changing a pickup, I can't change the nut myself, I would have to give my guitars to the custom shop, wait... doesn't sound tempting. But I am curious about Cosmins opinion about his new nut.

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QUOTE (Marcus Siepen @ Sep 5 2012, 02:36 PM) *
Exactly Jones. After all changing a nut is not something like changing a pickup, I can't change the nut myself, I would have to give my guitars to the custom shop, wait... doesn't sound tempting. But I am curious about Cosmins opinion about his new nut.


Cosmin likes it a lot biggrin.gif Honestly speaking, there is a slight difference in the depth of the lower registers - it's more clear somehow.

Of course, I must experiment more and see what is there to observe!

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Hmmm now you made me curious, after all my Gibson Customshop is only 20 minutes away from where I live... but maybe I should find out first what kind of nuts Gibson is uing anyway wink.gif

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QUOTE (Marcus Siepen @ Sep 6 2012, 03:30 PM) *
Hmmm now you made me curious, after all my Gibson Customshop is only 20 minutes away from where I live... but maybe I should find out first what kind of nuts Gibson is uing anyway wink.gif


I think it might be graphite, now that I come to think about my band mate's Les Paul smile.gif

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QUOTE (Marcus Siepen @ Sep 6 2012, 04:30 PM) *
Hmmm now you made me curious, after all my Gibson Customshop is only 20 minutes away from where I live... but maybe I should find out first what kind of nuts Gibson is uing anyway wink.gif

Depends on how your guitar is Marcus. If it's less than 10 (ish) years old it's fitted with a nut made from 'Corian'.

For replacement I can recommend Tusq nuts, similar to bone but synthetic!
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Corian??? Never heard of that ^^ well, some of my Les Pauls are older, some are within this 10 years, I guess I will just ask Gibson wink.gif

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QUOTE (Marcus Siepen @ Sep 6 2012, 05:12 PM) *
Corian??? Never heard of that ^^ well, some of my Les Pauls are older, some are within this 10 years, I guess I will just ask Gibson wink.gif


Hmmm, never heard about Corian myself - it sounds like a GREAT name for a band though biggrin.gif

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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Sep 7 2012, 08:37 AM) *
Hmmm, never heard about Corian myself - it sounds like a GREAT name for a band though biggrin.gif


Hehe, true, it doesn't sound bad ^^ If those nuts sound as good we should give them a try

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From Wiki:-
Corian is the brand name for a solid surface material created by DuPont. It is composed of acrylic polymer and alumina trihydrate (ATH). Corian can be thermoformed by heating it to 300 °F (150 °C), allowing unique shapes to be created. Its primary use is in kitchen countertops, bathroom vanity tops, and wall cladding in showers.

I do remember it being mentioned in a review of a Les Paul when they first started using it!
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I've a really nice japanese Martin D 42 clone, which is my 'beater' acoustic guitar, I had a bone nut and saddle put on it and you could definitely tell the difference.

On electrics I'm not sure I could tell the difference between the material of a decently cut nut, though I'm sure the sustain would be better with bone than plastic.

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Talking about nuts I use just play an acoustic and the amount of strings I broke. If I didn't change strings before a gig then I was going to brake a string ever time and always on the bridge. The worst I ever did was 3 strings. I tried every type of string and got my guitar looked at and nothing worked. I think it came down to playing to hard and also because I was the lead singer I didn't pay enough attention to my playing. Now I don't sing much and when I play acoustic I'm freaking out not to break a string. So Annoying. I wanted to try bone and graphite nuts but never have. Mine is was and still is plastic. Current acoustic guitars Yamaha LSX36C and Ovation Standard Balladeer.

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