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Posted by: Oxac Jun 1 2008, 12:51 AM
Hey Kris & CO. I've actually played the piano since I was a little kid and if I get my hands on a decent camera, I could do piano lessons from easy to almost advanced, in a guitar players perspective. Unfortunately, I don't have any recording device to either record music or video, unless I plug directly into the computer... which is impossible with a piano.
So my question is if you're interested in piano lessons as well, or only in guitar, bass and singing.
Posted by: audiopaal Jun 1 2008, 12:55 AM
I'd love some Piano beginner lessons 
Posted by: skennington Jun 1 2008, 01:10 AM
Me Too!
Posted by: Sam Hook Jun 1 2008, 01:22 AM
I've got a keyboard at home and have never really known where to start. Beginner lessons would be great! 
Posted by: Nick325 Jun 1 2008, 01:42 AM
ya me 2 i have a keyboard but cant play 
if they cant be put on the site you can make them as SI lessons
Posted by: Trond Vold Jun 1 2008, 03:15 AM
I wouldnt mind some piano lessons either I dont have any sense of hand-coordination when it comes to pianos/keyboards
Posted by: Canis Jun 1 2008, 03:20 AM
I vote for piano lessons as well =) I've been watching more and more piano covers of great songs on youtube lately...
Posted by: SEANCD2005 Jun 1 2008, 04:29 AM
id liked piano lessons, I also have keyboard but dont know how to play
Posted by: Juan M. Valero Jun 1 2008, 08:17 AM
I'd like them and I hope we will get piano lessons the problem is finding a good teacher 
Posted by: Hisham Al-Sanea Jun 1 2008, 09:30 AM
good idea to have a piano lessons here .so we can use the keyboards as a piano instead acoustic piano for recording
Posted by: Oxac Jun 1 2008, 11:02 AM
Yeah, I have a digital piano I can plug directly in my computer, or into the camera (once I get one). But it might be worth a try then, since so many of you would like it.
Might happen after the summer, if I work and get some money and spend it on a camcoder. Thanks for your opinions though.
// Ox
Posted by: Nemanja Filipovic Jun 1 2008, 12:39 PM
Piano lesson would be cool,couse,it is a very useful instrument in every way.I play piano(keyboard) for two hours every day now,and the good stuff is that you can easy record midi instruments,and it is always better then "running" with a muse in your midi key editor.
So,piano lesson would be great.
Posted by: Matt23 Jun 1 2008, 12:41 PM
I used to play piano quite a lot, and it's been priceless in making me understand more about chords and stuff. Lessons and the motivation to start again would be great.
Posted by: Nemanja Filipovic Jun 1 2008, 12:45 PM
I agree,the best way to learn and "feel" the music harmony is trough piano,it helped me a lot when it comes to theory and making songs.
Posted by: Mark. Jun 1 2008, 12:58 PM
Beginner Piano lessons would be great! 
Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Jun 1 2008, 01:03 PM
Some nice beginner piano lessons would be cool. For starters lesson how to hold hands properly, and what to practice FIRST. Also other than scales up/down, what exercises are good.
Posted by: Oxac Jun 1 2008, 07:27 PM
Okay, please feel free to come with suggestions on how to do them, that will do nothing but improve my future lessons. Here's what I've thought about.
First, how to hold hands, how to position oneself for maximum fluidity and accessability. Then I'm going to explain how the notes are distributed on the piano. Then explain what the pedals do, how the piano is constructed. Then just go for chords, how to structure them. Then show a few simple shapes and teach a simple song.
The next lesson would be all about fingering because there's nothing that will limit your playing more than bad fingering doing that over a nice little etude.
Then I'd show chords in the right hand and simple bass slings in the left. What to think about etc. Then the rest will come naturally.
These first lessons would have to be one on one. Then I'd make a more complicated lesson, for those who already got the basics down.
what do you guys think?
Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Jun 1 2008, 07:31 PM
If we can find a good teacher we will aboslutely have piano lessons!
Posted by: superize Jun 1 2008, 07:52 PM
Keyboard lessons would be great i play a little myself but havent had any motivation to continue playing because i cant find any good lessons.. but a tip i can give when it comes to learning spped in fingers you can use any alternate picking excercise here and use the gp file to learn the thing on keyboard. for thoose who do not know how the axcess the keyboard thing in gp it is on the top of the page almost in the middle and it looks like a keyboard
Posted by: BollyRotten Jun 1 2008, 07:55 PM
Great idea to me, I played the organ for many years as a kid, so would like to brush up my keyboard skills as I still have a Technics organ.
Top Notch Idea!!!!
Posted by: Siggum Jun 1 2008, 07:58 PM
I am somewhat decent on piano, however my theory is not perfect at all, i played for about 10 years but by ear only i would love to give some lessons but i fear my lack of theory would impact on this. Anyway having some basic knownlegde about piano is really helpfull, specially when creating tracks you can add bass, piano(offcourse) and even drums.
Posted by: superize Jun 1 2008, 08:08 PM
I would really love to know how to create good power metal rythm on keyboard
Posted by: Matt23 Jun 1 2008, 08:17 PM
Some stuff like the keyboard out of dream theater songs and not just piano would be really good as well.
Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Jun 1 2008, 08:44 PM
First, how to hold hands, how to position oneself for maximum fluidity and accessability. Then I'm going to explain how the notes are distributed on the piano. Then explain what the pedals do, how the piano is constructed. Then just go for chords, how to structure them. Then show a few simple shapes and teach a simple song.
The next lesson would be all about fingering because there's nothing that will limit your playing more than bad fingering doing that over a nice little etude.
Then I'd show chords in the right hand and simple bass slings in the left. What to think about etc. Then the rest will come naturally.
These first lessons would have to be one on one. Then I'd make a more complicated lesson, for those who already got the basics down.
what do you guys think?
I think all the best about your idea. The layout of the lesson seems perfect for beginners. Now mu suggestion is to start simple lessons and have a good video and audio quality etc in order to get your lesson accepted.
Posted by: Oxac Jun 1 2008, 08:50 PM
Yes, that's why I don't wanna get some junk and try it and phail. For me, if you can't do it for real, there's no need to bother.
@ you guys who's asking about keyboard. Sorry guys, I'm not into keyboards really, you can't control the notes the same way you do in a piano. It's also a totally different playing style. I can do some things on it, but I'm an incompetent loser on the keyboard (compared to the piano). So I can't see why I should bother doing lessons for keyboard. It's like asking a classical guitarist do lessons for electric guitar. I still believe that piano lessons would help your "keyboarding" since a lot of the techniques are similar.
Thanks for all the input.
Posted by: skennington Jun 1 2008, 08:59 PM
@ Oxac, heres a video lesson of recording set ups from a few of our instructors.
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/misc-lessons/gmc-video-recording-tutorial/
Would love to see some piano lessons from you!
Posted by: Oxac Jun 1 2008, 09:45 PM
Thank you. That was a very valuable lesson. Sadly enough, I won't be able to do this untill the end of this summer. But I will give it my best shot. Thanks again for all the input.
Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Jun 2 2008, 12:35 AM
No problem man! You got me worried for a moment there about piano/keyboard differencies in playing technique 
Posted by: Nemanja Filipovic Jun 2 2008, 12:52 AM
I think you play good,all the uploads you put here on GMC with piano sound great.
Posted by: Oxac Jun 2 2008, 08:10 PM
EDIT- NVM.
Posted by: Bogdan Radovic Jun 3 2008, 01:03 AM
Piano is cool , but I would like some harmonica lessons Don't have idea how to play that instrument
Posted by: Lithuanian Jun 3 2008, 09:46 AM
I second that. My guitar teacher uses the keyboards as a base point for his theory lessons. It really makes me understand theory better.
Looking forward to the piano lessons. I'm planning on getting a piano and start playing it so some lessons on the basics would be perfect.
Posted by: Oxac Jun 3 2008, 10:07 AM
I guess I have to make a "show off" thing first, so you guys will know what I am capable of. But I think using a piano for theory lessons is wrong for a guitarist.
Knowing the intervals in scales, chords etc. is good, but not enough if you want to make it as a guitarist. You've got to have them in your musclememory and that way if you learn it on the guitar, it will help you more. Because otherwise you might have to think of a piano in your head to be able to play a certain scale... Which is baad.
But I still think it's a nice instrument.
Posted by: OrganisedConfusion Jun 3 2008, 10:48 AM
I can play keyboard with my feet . The only instrument I'm actually good at lol Only problem is I haven't played in 5 or 6 years. I played from 5-18 years old when I picked up guitar 
Maybe I should have stuck with keyboard
Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Jun 3 2008, 02:01 PM
Hi Oxac!
Looks like there is certainly interest in piano lessons - you need to be thinking about the following to ensure success:
Yes, you do need to make a showoff video to show us what you can do, but probably not in the way you are thinking!
Of course you and any other prospective GMC instructor must demonstrate a high level of competence on the instrument in question - but I am sure that is not a problem for you. What might be harder is that Kris is also looking for:
- High Quality Recording and backing tracks where appropriate
- High Quality video (usually needs a decent camera and some high quality lighting)
- Good backup material - tabs, backing tracks, lesson text etc
- Good Original Lesson Concepts
I'm certainly not trying to discourage you - I would love to see some piano lessons, but I'm trying to make sure that when you get to this stage you are thinking about the whole picture, not just the playing.
One way to dip your toe into this is to make some Student Instructor Lessons - that is a great way of trying out the making of a lesson and seeing what kind of work goes into it, and GMCers can benefit straight away.
Alternatively, if you want to apply straight to Kris with a demo video, bear in mind what I said above and make it as good as you possibly can!
Posted by: Oxac Jun 3 2008, 03:59 PM
Thanks a lot Andrew.
I'm a "perfectionist" so I will definately make sure that the lightning quality is good. Concerning the tab, would that be notation or a tab for guitar?
Posted by: OrganisedConfusion Jun 3 2008, 04:02 PM
You don't need to go that far lol. Lighting would be good enough. Lightning could be deadly
Posted by: Matt23 Jun 3 2008, 04:52 PM
I don't think thats such a bad idea, a lightning storm in the background might add quite a nice horror movie atmosphere to the lesson. You need to something spooky for your first lesson
Posted by: Oxac Jun 3 2008, 08:21 PM
O.o a little typing mistake I ment lighting of course.
Posted by: Old School Rocker Jun 3 2008, 08:46 PM
- High Quality Recording and backing tracks where appropriate
- High Quality video (usually needs a decent camera and some high quality lighting)
- Good backup material - tabs, backing tracks, lesson text etc
- Good Original Lesson Concepts
All that sounds good but I never used backing tracks when I played piano I dont know if its really nececary for playing piano IMO since you play chord progresion with left hand and I guess you could call it lead with the right so your kinda playing the backing track on your own if you read the sheet music properly
Or For a backing track you could have two backing tracks one for left hand and another for right so when you start a lesson you can play just one hand while having the backing play the other hand so you can get used to the patterns separately
But as for having Piano lesson at GMC I'm totally for it. I acctually made a topic about this a while ago but it didnt spark all that much interest at the time but now its looking pretty good
Posted by: Oxac Jun 3 2008, 11:02 PM
Or For a backing track you could have two backing tracks one for left hand and another for right so when you start a lesson you can play just one hand while having the backing play the other hand so you can get used to the patterns separately
But as for having Piano lesson at GMC I'm totally for it. I acctually made a topic about this a while ago but it didnt spark all that much interest at the time but now its looking pretty good
Not always. I know some pieces that have the melody in the left hand and an overdub in the right
or harmonies etc.
Posted by: Tuubsu Jun 4 2008, 08:54 AM
I know nothing about teaching piano, I'm interested in playing, but all I wanted to say was, that sounds brilliant!
Posted by: Sentenced Jun 4 2008, 09:35 AM
Yeah, pianolessons, that sounds good!
Posted by: Chiruki Jun 4 2008, 10:45 AM
This really sounds great!! I could use some finger exercises on piano.. I can only play with chords and melodies by ear but my technique sux since I've never taken any lessons..
Posted by: Bogdan Radovic Jun 4 2008, 11:51 AM
Backings should often contain drums, bass, guitar etc to sound more fun
Posted by: Oxac Jun 4 2008, 12:30 PM
When I make lessons for rythm piano and pop songs etc, rock piano.. I will make backingtracks. Maybe even a solo track so you can be the backingtrack. Ya know, like a singer and a piano, but I'll do it a guitar lead instead, since I don't sing very well
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