Where's Our Civil Rights Going?! |
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Jan 11 2009, 07:59 PM
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QUOTE (kahall @ Jan 11 2009, 07:28 PM)  do you care to oh....I don't know prove that? I don't say this is evicence, but it's a speculation  Loose Change: Final Cut -------------------- GMC is not just a website... It's a lifestyle!
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Jan 12 2009, 09:37 AM
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there is no spoon
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Jan 12 2009, 09:56 PM
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How many people died because of terrorist attacks?
How many people died because of car accidents? How many people died because of cancer (possible because they smoked)? ... 
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Jan 12 2009, 09:57 PM
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I have been looking around for citations and facts that disproves it, but obviously I've been looking on wrong places, as I've mainly found sites that agrees with Loose Change. Where I live, we haven't heard much about anything else that's beeing said about 9/11, except the attack, and some videos passed around via e-mail (as Loose Change was).
I'm sorry if I hit a personal button on anyone with my comment.. But my point with that comment was simply that I get the image that the US Government use the statement "In the fear of terrorism" as VinceG said, to get new rights, as said in fatb0t's post. Please correct me if I'm wrong
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Jan 12 2009, 10:53 PM
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Did you look up Operation Northwoods? I found that particular article very interesting.
QUOTE (Canis @ Jan 12 2009, 08:57 PM) I have been looking around for citations and facts that disproves it, but obviously I've been looking on wrong places, as I've mainly found sites that agrees with Loose Change. Where I live, we haven't heard much about anything else that's beeing said about 9/11, except the attack, and some videos passed around via e-mail (as Loose Change was). I'm sorry if I hit a personal button on anyone with my comment.. But my point with that comment was simply that I get the image that the US Government use the statement "In the fear of terrorism" as VinceG said, to get new rights, as said in fatb0t's post. Please correct me if I'm wrong -------------------- GMC Travel Agent, at your service.
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Jan 12 2009, 11:09 PM
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QUOTE (Canis @ Jan 12 2009, 09:57 PM) I have been looking around for citations and facts that disproves it, but obviously I've been looking on wrong places, as I've mainly found sites that agrees with Loose Change. Where I live, we haven't heard much about anything else that's beeing said about 9/11, except the attack, and some videos passed around via e-mail (as Loose Change was). I'm sorry if I hit a personal button on anyone with my comment.. But my point with that comment was simply that I get the image that the US Government use the statement "In the fear of terrorism" as VinceG said, to get new rights, as said in fatb0t's post. Please correct me if I'm wrong Canis, there are plenty of sites on the internet that give out false information. In order to weed out the facts from the lies, one must use a certain amount of common sense. A statement or idea that makes sense is more likely to be true than one that makes outrageous claims. Europe, and I mean no disrespect when I say this, is a very liberal society as compared to the U.S. Many people in Europe hate the U.S. and what it stands for, for whatever reasons. I don't know if it's jealousy or elitism or a disagreement with the way our country is run. But, many sites spring up full of vile hatred for the U.S., including many far left smear sites here in the U.S., and they spew lies and make outrageous claims in order to denigrate the U.S. All I'm saying is, don't believe everything you hear, and definitely, where the internet is concerned, don't believe everything you read. If you research hard enough, and use some common sense, you will find the truth. But I'm telling you, if you believe that we blew up our own Twin Towers, killing thousands of our own people in order to justify spending billions of dollars and lose thousands of lives fighting a war on terror, I have to say that you need to pull your head out of your ass. The next thing you know, you'll be telling me that Israel is the bad guys and HAMAS are being victimized. And you'll tell me that because the very same websites you visit preaching the conspiracy theory crap will be telling you this. Wake up people. |
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Jan 12 2009, 11:44 PM
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QUOTE (mjsteps @ Jan 12 2009, 11:29 PM) so why is the UN trying to restrict Isreal and yet allow "terrorists" the benefit of the doubt with no strings attached? May be because Isreal is shooting their truck drivers?. Or maybe because they are using outlawed weapons like cluster bombs? But to be honest, I'm not in favor of either side in that war - simply because I don't think there's a reliable way to get information about what's really happening down there. But I would be interested about the information sources of the people who favor any of the two sides.
The threat is real but when dealing with "terrorists" how is one to protect itself? Israel has been dealing with this problem for years and it appears that no progress will ever be made as long as the "relgious belief" is that they are "dogs" and should not exsist. This post has been edited by 29a: Jan 12 2009, 11:45 PM -------------------- My Website | My Gear | Elixir Nanoweb Strings Review | Installing Schaller Security Locks
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Jan 12 2009, 11:54 PM
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QUOTE (29a @ Jan 12 2009, 11:44 PM) May be because Isreal is shooting their truck drivers?. Or maybe because they are using outlawed weapons like cluster bombs? But to be honest, I'm not in favor of either side in that war - simply because I don't think there's a reliable way to get information about what's really happening down there. But I would be interested about the information sources of the people who favor any of the two sides. You believe what you want, and I'll believe what I want. It's called taking a stand. HAMAS and Hezbollah are self-proclaimed terrorist organizations. This isn't news. They are enemies of the world, not just Israel. If you do as I suggested to Canis, and research, you will be enlightened enough to choose a side. |
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Jan 13 2009, 01:12 AM
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QUOTE (FrankW @ Jan 12 2009, 11:54 PM) You believe what you want, and I'll believe what I want. It's called taking a stand. HAMAS and Hezbollah are self-proclaimed terrorist organizations. This isn't news. They are enemies of the world, not just Israel. If you do as I suggested to Canis, and research, you will be enlightened enough to choose a side. I did some research on this, otherwise I wouldn't even be talking about it. I do also respect your opinion, but I don't think that it is as simple as Isreal is fighting terrorists so Isreal must be right. What HAMAS, Hezbollah is wrong, I agree on that one. But is Israel doing the right thing? I don't know. - Jonas BTW, we're drifting away from the subject. -------------------- My Website | My Gear | Elixir Nanoweb Strings Review | Installing Schaller Security Locks
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