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Posted by: Caelumamittendum Sep 12 2020, 06:28 PM

Though I would share this nice little tip I found on YouTube, as I was struggling making my electric guitar sound nice when strummed. It's still not perfect of course, but better than my completely clean sound:

Posted by: Mertay Sep 12 2020, 06:55 PM

Cool, it might be worth to blend acoustic guitar impulses too as I had some success when trying that.

I'd have to google but there should be free impulses out there.

Posted by: klasaine Sep 12 2020, 07:13 PM

Yeah, I guess if you don't own an acoustic guitar or if you absolutely have to work ITB but man that seems like a lot of work just to get 'sort of' a passable acoustic sound.
IMO, it would be better to learn how to mic a steel string. It's not very difficult.
*Again, unless ITB is your only option.

Posted by: Caelumamittendum Sep 12 2020, 07:25 PM

Oh, yeah, I'm doing this as I don't own an acoustic guitar anymore.

Posted by: Todd Simpson Sep 13 2020, 09:24 AM

I ran in to the same issue at one point a while back and ended up going with a guitar/midi sort of thing and using the built in midi sound for 12 string in LOGIC X and using a game controller at the guitar. It ends up giving a decent acoustic tone and I already had the controller from gaming which was handy and I didn't have an actual acoustic guitar I like your creative approach! Maybe a pinch more treble to make it sound more like an acoustic? Pinch more reverb and touch of chorus to give it a 12 string vibe, but not too much.

QUOTE (Caelumamittendum @ Sep 12 2020, 01:28 PM)

Though I would share this nice little tip I found on YouTube, as I was struggling making my electric guitar sound nice when strummed. It's still not perfect of course, but better than my completely clean sound:

Posted by: Caelumamittendum Sep 13 2020, 01:48 PM

Oh, the video isn't mine - that's just from someone else. But I agree, and I've added some effects on my own take/track.

Posted by: Todd Simpson Sep 13 2020, 02:53 PM

can we get a bit of how yours turned out? Or have you already shared in a track?

QUOTE (Caelumamittendum @ Sep 13 2020, 08:48 AM)

Oh, the video isn't mine - that's just from someone else. But I agree, and I've added some effects on my own take/track.

Posted by: Caelumamittendum Sep 13 2020, 03:23 PM

QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Sep 13 2020, 03:53 PM)

can we get a bit of how yours turned out? Or have you already shared in a track?

Sure thing!

This is just a preview, mind you:

09_Ocean_World.mp3 ( 2.52MB ) : 57

EDIT:
Actually a preview of the full track here. Still a lot of things to fix and I also need to add vocals etc.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ke9mx5z29261t8g/09%20Ocean%20World-002.mp3?dl=0

QUOTE (klasaine @ Sep 12 2020, 08:13 PM)

Yeah, I guess if you don't own an acoustic guitar or if you absolutely have to work ITB but man that seems like a lot of work just to get 'sort of' a passable acoustic sound.
IMO, it would be better to learn how to mic a steel string. It's not very difficult.
*Again, unless ITB is your only option.

As said, I don't own and acoustic guitar. To be honest though, it wasn't that much work. One DI track, directly into my audio card and another track with my mic close up to the guitar. Record both at once. Rinse and repeat for double tracking.

Obviously it's not as good as the real thing, but sometimes you gotta compromise.

Posted by: Darius Wave Sep 13 2020, 07:54 PM

IT is a cool idea for something generally new, that could work exactly as is.

I was doing lot' of experiments and as mertay said - you can have some incredible result when you make an impulse response that will boost everything that is missing in that raw electric sound from microphone.

I was doing some impulses for piezo loaded electric as well. The problem is that some of natural string buzz and pick "peak" doesn't transfer through piezo so the impulse does boost a lot i nthese frequencies, to compensate. You need to have a really high string action on your electric to avoid double boosting these frequencies which in result sounds like shit

Posted by: Caelumamittendum Sep 13 2020, 07:57 PM

QUOTE (Darius Wave @ Sep 13 2020, 08:54 PM)

IT is a cool idea for something generally new, that could work exactly as is.

I was doing lot' of experiments and as mertay said - you can have some incredible result when you make an impulse response that will boost everything that is missing in that raw electric sound from microphone.

I was doing some impulses for piezo loaded electric as well. The problem is that some of natural string buzz and pick "peak" doesn't transfer through piezo so the impulse does boost a lot i nthese frequencies, to compensate. You need to have a really high string action on your electric to avoid double boosting these frequencies which in result sounds like shit

I mean, of course, ideally I'd have an acoustic guitar to record this on, but that's not the case, and I didn't quite find the acoustic guitar plugins I found (such as Ample Guitar M) to sound realistic enough in some way.

Posted by: Todd Simpson Sep 16 2020, 02:22 AM

I got a chance to hear the actual recording, (the demo was someone else I think, from the link above) and it sounds pretty darn good. I gotta say nice!! Using what was to hand and a bit of creativity to make something sound like something it's not without having to buy new bits. Score!!

QUOTE (Caelumamittendum @ Sep 13 2020, 02:57 PM)