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Posted by: ItsMe May 16 2010, 09:41 AM

great selfmarketing tool with a good player (better quality then most others) and many things to use and explore.

I uploaded some of my stuff there for fun

http://www.reverbnation.com/tunepak/2657003


and made a profile: http://www.reverbnation.com/#/aloneinboston

Posted by: Adrian Figallo May 16 2010, 05:14 PM

hey man, i really like your music!! at least the first song rocks "power of song", very nice bluesy feel!

edit: listening more, it is really good man, like your songwritting!

Posted by: Bogdan Radovic May 16 2010, 05:20 PM

Reverbnation is great tool for promotion!

Here is my bands page: http://www.reverbnation.com/ljutepapricice

We could use some song plays )

Posted by: ItsMe May 16 2010, 06:54 PM

Hey thank you, means a lot and I looove your lessons on GMC



listening right now and became a fan on reverbnation

Posted by: Bogdan Radovic May 16 2010, 06:58 PM

I just listened to your songs there and man they are awesome! )) I really like your composing style! Great singing too (is that you?)
Keep rocking man!

Posted by: The Uncreator May 16 2010, 07:44 PM

I was trying to setup a profile, only to figure out that my songs are too long and too big to be uploaded unless I pay them $30.

8MB limit is terrible, Even when I compress my songs all the way down they are still 30mb - Fail for me


EDIT

And on top of that, when you pay them the limit is only increased to 25mb - I still can't use it!

Posted by: ItsMe May 16 2010, 08:10 PM

Thank you man, great that you like it. Yes its me singing but i'd really like to improve my voice. Anyway thanks again for the nice words




Are your mp3s that large ? wow. Can you use another algorythm and differnt dithering ? Where will you put your stuff up. really want to hear it. all your stuff i heard so far ist reeealy great.

Posted by: Fre May 16 2010, 08:51 PM

Wow! Really great stuff here!
You have a great voice and composing skills, love it!

Posted by: Bogdan Radovic May 16 2010, 09:05 PM

Hmm isn't that 8mb limit only per 1 song? I'm sure you could compress your songs to fit that limit (if its 8mb per song mp3 file)?

Posted by: kaznie_NL May 16 2010, 09:07 PM

Wow!! I didn't know you made such awesome songs! Your backing guitars are exactly the kind of chords I'd like to be able to think of and your singing is exactly right for this sort of music

Posted by: ruben_mcn May 16 2010, 09:12 PM

Love your songs man they are great..

btw: Bogdan is Ivan on your Band ??

Posted by: kaznie_NL May 16 2010, 09:41 PM

So... I added you as a friend and made my own page

http://www.reverbnation.com/kazv

you can start buying my 1 song as soon as possible, go get it, it's only 0.50$ how cool would that be if it's sold 10000 times tomorow...

Posted by: Bogdan Radovic May 16 2010, 09:41 PM

Yeah we both play in a same band.

Hope you like our music!

Posted by: ruben_mcn May 16 2010, 09:54 PM

I really like its groove to bad i can´t understand the lrycs :S

Posted by: Daniel Realpe May 16 2010, 10:54 PM

It is indeed a great thing,

nice songs man, enjoyed them

Posted by: The Uncreator May 16 2010, 11:05 PM

Some songs I can get just under 8mb, But the majority of my songs are about 12-40mb when I compress them to MP3 (Which is all you are allowed to upload) - The uncompressed versions of my songs are about 120-170mb.




Yes its 8mb per song, And I can fit 3 of my 10 songs in that limit, And those are my 3 shortest ones (3:22, 4:05, and 5:04) Every other song I have after that is between 7 - 13 minutes, Even the other 20 or so "old" songs won't fit. Problem is, all the songs I would want people to hear are the longer ones, My 2 favorite songs of mine are both 12+ minutes

Posted by: Bogdan Radovic May 17 2010, 01:01 AM

Hmm this is rather strange man... In what bit rate are you compressing those mp3s? I would suggest 128 bit rate than you will be able to fit all the songs...And it will sound good enough for online streaming anyway. Even a bit lower bit rate would pass well for those really long songs...People don't expect awesome quality on streaming web sites anyway...

Posted by: The Uncreator May 17 2010, 04:48 AM

I'll try that, I think I'm currently using 320.

Posted by: Stephane Lucarelli May 17 2010, 11:53 AM

Didn't about Reverbnation, seems to be a great tool...thanks for sharing

Also thanks for sharing your music man, I really like your stuff !

Posted by: Vasilije Vukmirovic May 17 2010, 12:10 PM

Nice tool, I heard about it. Thanks for sharing!

Posted by: kaznie_NL May 17 2010, 02:51 PM

soo... You can can now go AND BUY MY MUSIC Like you want to If anyone feels like sponsoring a rising guitarist, here's your chance

http://www.reverbnation.com/store/store/artist_791272?item_type=music
http://www.reverbnation.com/kazv

BTW.... how did you get traffic to your reverbnation profile?

Posted by: Bogdan Radovic May 17 2010, 05:08 PM

There is ability to link the myspace and facebook page to reverbnation and it will read your friends/fans and list it in reverbnation. Posting links on those socials networds+forums should drive you some traffic to the profile.

Posted by: ItsMe May 17 2010, 06:47 PM

btw you sould downsample to 16 bits and 44 khz. Its impossible to get 170 mb mp3s then
but use a good dithering algorythm

Posted by: The Uncreator May 17 2010, 06:52 PM

I've decreased the bit rate and that helps a bit, Its just that the quality is bleh!

Posted by: Bogdan Radovic May 17 2010, 06:56 PM

Generally 128 bit rate is standard and cool to me for listening. If song has nice production etc it shouldn't sound too bad. Maybe you are just oversensitive to quality

Posted by: The Uncreator May 17 2010, 07:01 PM

I think Its just because for the past 3 months I have been recording/rendering/mixing everything in 320+ bit rate, and everything as a .wav file - Its the sudden change that bothers me, But then again - its just for internet streaming, so like you said I'm probably being oversensitive

Posted by: Bogdan Radovic May 17 2010, 07:17 PM

Yeah you are right, when you get used to good quality everything else sounds horrible even though these things are not registered by the average listener You have some great material, so it would be cool to see your new album on sites such as reverbnation

Posted by: The Uncreator May 17 2010, 07:55 PM

I went from 320 to 96 and its still 11.5mb, Im going crazy!

Gonna just have to fork over the $30 I think, Cause I don't know if I can use anything under 96 - It just messes with my hard work too much

Posted by: Bogdan Radovic May 17 2010, 08:35 PM

Damn, that is 12+ minutes song right ? ) Cut it in two ehehehe (I'm kidding that would butcher it)

Let's see if someone has an idea how to make a nice small mp3 out of your songs?

Posted by: The Uncreator May 17 2010, 08:46 PM

Good news is that it will allow my 7-9 minute songs to fit, but just barely. Better than nothing though. I just dont want to push it any lower, eventually it will reach a low quality that I just can't accept

Posted by: tonymiro May 17 2010, 08:52 PM

MP3 compression is only roughly about 10 times based on a 44.1/16 to a 128 VBR so a big file like Uncreator has will still end up as a big MP3. You can get the mp3 a little bit smaller if you switch from VBR to CBR but the audio quality will be a little worse; similarly if you alter bit rate - reduce it from 128 to 96 and you will get a smaller file but also one that is of poorer audio quality. BTW many radio stations broadcast digital at either 128 or 192 - 320 is better than pretty much all broadcast audio - due to bandwidth. Much below 96 bit rate and the quality won't be good enough for music: below 128 and the artifacts and distortion is just too obvious to most people. Finally you can try a different mp3 rendering codec - ie Fraunhofer instead of LAME etc - to whichever your using but I think the compression will still be minimal.

One slightly different issue - if you're producing a CDA then you need to take the bit depth down from a 24 bit wave (or whatever bit depth your daw is running) to 16 to be red book CDA compatible. This should as ItsMe has already suggested be done via a good dithering setup. However, most (virtually all) mp3s now use VBR and it is not often necessary to change bit depth for an mp3 prior to rendering to that format.

Final final thing (promise ) as an alternative to Reverbnation take a look at Bandcamp http://bandcamp.com/. I don't know how it compares generally but it does allow you to use formats other than mp3.

Posted by: The Uncreator May 17 2010, 09:39 PM

As always Tony your knowledge pays off, I'll check out that website as well.