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Posted by: purple hayes Apr 27 2009, 09:42 PM

So Sunday at church, the praise band is on stage playing. It's me (only running through my POD into the PA), another electric player (playing through an amp and the PA) and an acoustic player (also playing through an amp and the PA).

This was my first time not playing through an amp, so I really couldn't hear myself well (or at all). I really had a chance to listen to the band as a whole.

We sounded pretty bad. The acoustic player kept trying to play E when the chart said Eb. The other electric player's time was off and his bends were out of tune.

Don't think I'm saying I'm better than them, I'm part of the group.

What if we suck and no one has the nerve to tell us?

Posted by: Marek Rojewski Apr 27 2009, 09:48 PM

Record Yourself(I mean the whole band) and see... I haven't had to many occasions to listen to a "church band" as there are very few such bands in Poland(that uses something more than tambourine or acoustic guitar) but all I heard actually sucked

Posted by: Gus Apr 27 2009, 09:53 PM

yep, recording is the best thing to criticize your own. You record it and then you invite the guys to listen together. You don't have to be hard or anything, they will notice themselves.

BTW, In Brazil there are lots of church bands that rocks.

Posted by: -Zion- Apr 27 2009, 10:10 PM

i think it's a difficult one..

if i were to go to church one day (like once every year), and there was a band playing, i would hear them out..
if they sucked, i would probably think something along the line of: "man, aren't they done soon?" and "woo, finally done", but i am not sure i would actually go and tell them they sucked..

if i was paying to hear them perform, then i would probably tell them they sucked..

Then again, now that i have a deeper and better understanding of music, i might pick up on a few things like timing issues, and i might go and tell them that although their music were interesting they needed to work a little on their timing and i would probably suggest a metronome..

i would never say that someone sucks.. if i am even going to talk to them about it, i'll be sure to have some constructive criticism.. and maybe thats why noone have said anything to you, or maybe they think you are just fine..

like others said, record yourself.. you'll notice it if there is anything..

Posted by: David Wallimann Apr 27 2009, 10:57 PM

From what I have heard of you in collabs and videos you don't suck. :-)

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Apr 27 2009, 11:31 PM

As everybody else already suggested, recording yourself, and playing that recording to your bandmates at some meeting will tell you just how many mistakes there are. You cannot judge anything by simply listening from the stage, you just have to make a recording. If it is allowed in the church, bring a camcoder and record your performance. Carefully analyze how you look & sound and what can you do to make it better. Discuss this with your bandmates at rehearsal and you should solve the problem.

Posted by: Rated Htr Apr 27 2009, 11:59 PM

That's how people must feel everytime they hear dragonforce live...To scared to say they suck

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Apr 28 2009, 01:12 AM

Recording yourself and your band mates is definitely way to go here.

Be honest to yourself before being so with others. If you feel you sound bad, then you probably sound bad, and other people will perceive you sounding bad.
Recording is there to relieve all these things and help you practice on things that you are weak on.
Hope that helps !

Posted by: Muris Varajic Apr 28 2009, 01:18 AM

Set high standards, record a lot, practice a lot and there you go.

Posted by: David Wallimann Apr 28 2009, 02:25 AM

QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Apr 27 2009, 08:18 PM)

Set high standards, record a lot, practice a lot and there you go.

Posted by: enforcer Apr 28 2009, 02:37 AM

I must say playing as a person is a very different thing compared to playing as a whole band. There are many factors there to fail and a greater part of these are because of things that aren't directly related to you. As others mentioned, recording and listening (and making other band members listen to it too) is a great way to achieve a better level. Now the good news, being a better band is easier to perfect your personal skills. For the bad news, it requires commitment and work of every each member of the band.

Hope this helps...

Cheers

Posted by: blindwillie Apr 28 2009, 06:28 AM

QUOTE (purple hayes @ Apr 27 2009, 10:42 PM)

So Sunday at church, the praise band is on stage playing. It's me (only running through my POD into the PA), another electric player (playing through an amp and the PA) and an acoustic player (also playing through an amp and the PA).

This was my first time not playing through an amp, so I really couldn't hear myself well (or at all). I really had a chance to listen to the band as a whole.

We sounded pretty bad. The acoustic player kept trying to play E when the chart said Eb. The other electric player's time was off and his bends were out of tune.

Don't think I'm saying I'm better than them, I'm part of the group.

What if we suck and no one has the nerve to tell us?

Posted by: purple hayes Apr 28 2009, 02:08 PM

QUOTE (blindwillie @ Apr 28 2009, 01:28 AM)

Get a wife