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Posted by: Victor Simion Jan 4 2021, 08:12 PM
Hi,
Is it too much if I ask for help in order to transcribe a guitar solo?
I mean that I have partially transcribed and maybe wrong in some parts
Posted by: jstcrsn Jan 4 2021, 09:48 PM
Is it too much if I ask for help in order to transcribe a guitar solo?
I mean that I have partially transcribed and maybe wrong in some parts
I don't think so, but have you looked at youtube to see if it has been done
I don't think you are allowed to put copywritten tab up
Posted by: Steve Gilfield Jan 4 2021, 09:49 PM
Which solo are you trying to transcribe?
Posted by: Todd Simpson Jan 4 2021, 10:20 PM
Nearly every solo on earth has a guitar pro file at this point and a youtube vid 
So it should be no problem at all. What solo?
Is it too much if I ask for help in order to transcribe a guitar solo?
I mean that I have partially transcribed and maybe wrong in some parts
Posted by: Victor Simion Jan 4 2021, 10:40 PM
I am trying to transcribe the solo from this song
The solo starts from 2:43
There is no tab for this one, that's why I am trying to transcribe it.
Posted by: Todd Simpson Jan 5 2021, 02:01 AM
Congrats!! That's a deeeeeep cut and nope there is no tab for it. This is probably a good thing actually. Choosing songs that already have tab prevents a player from actually developing their ear. One of the best ways of developing your ear is to transcribe a solo, by ear. I've had a listen to the solo and I'd say start trying to transcribe it note for not and share what you get. We will all take a look and listen and give you advice along the way. That way you can work on developing a key skill, (being able to t ranscribe by ear) and the community can help if you make a mistake.
The solo starts from 2:43
There is no tab for this one, that's why I am trying to transcribe it.
Posted by: Phil66 Jan 5 2021, 03:50 PM
I had a few weeks working simple stuff out, just things like Style Council You're The Best Thing intro, the vocal to Adele's Someone Like You and things like that, I didn't get into chords, that's a whole other thing but I did notice that after a while, once I'd got the first note, I could find some of the others more easily, knowing your scales helps BUT, things like that intro to You're The Best thing, just knowing a single box version of the scale wasn't enough, it goes from open strings right up to the 14th fret (IIRC) so you may hit the right note but it won't sound the same.
How I did it was to put an MP3 of the track into my DAW and slow it right down, no so much that it warbles though, then I'd loop just one note (usually the first) until I found it by playing notes on the guitar, then I'd try to work on the following notes by listening and trying to remember the next three, when I thought I'd got it I'd play along with the song, if I was out I'd try again. Sometimes I got frustrated and looped note number 2, or if there's a big jump in interval it was hard so I'd loop the note that sounded many semi tones away.
After a while it does get easier, I need to do some more really but it takes a lot of time, having said that, even something like You're The Best Thing is satisfying when you work it out and makes you realise that Mr Weller ain't no fool 
I also used to use some web site where you could create and store TAB, if you have GP5 you can use that but if you don't have much theory knowledge, as I don't, you will get a lot of red bars (notation errors).
I hope this helps you to help yourself
Apologies if this is too simple for you, I don't know your level, maybe you can already easily transcribe things like I mentioned above, in which case ignore it all but if this is your first transcription maybe your in too deep, either way, give it a go and let us all hear it, I'm sure some of the people on here with help out .
Cheers
Stay safe.
Phil
Posted by: Victor Simion Jan 5 2021, 05:27 PM
Thank you all,
I am already working on the tab, I will post it soon, in the meantime I am trying to get as much as I can done and fixed.
It would be great if you could help me finish and correct it.
Posted by: Victor Simion Jan 5 2021, 06:25 PM
I have attached what I have so far.
The original song is played using half step down
I transcribed using normal tuning, so if you play against the original song you should sound with one semi-tone above.
This video should be very helpful, posted recently, posted very recently by the band
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=235396901501688
Some Comments:
I am pretty sure the drums could be improved.
Section A:
I am not sure on the Rhythm Guitar in the last bar,
The other power chords sounds ok to me, but I am not sure why to use this power chords and note some other power chords.
Section B:
I am not sure the sweep part is correct, I think the guitar player goes up and down a little on the sweep picking part.
Again the Rhythm part is me just trying to guess the notes.
Section C:
This one is a total mess.
Last Descending Run:
This one is also me trying to guess, but I am sure I guessed the last note, where it lands.
Posted by: Todd Simpson Jan 5 2021, 07:41 PM
Impressive work!!! I thought you just planned on doing the solo and you did the entire song!!! It sounds great to me. If you would like, I can export the midi for the drums and run it through easy drummer to get a better drum sound.
The original song is played using half step down
I transcribed using normal tuning, so if you play against the original song you should sound with one semi-tone above.
This video should be very helpful, posted recently, posted very recently by the band
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=235396901501688
Some Comments:
I am pretty sure the drums could be improved.
Section A:
I am not sure on the Rhythm Guitar in the last bar,
The other power chords sounds ok to me, but I am not sure why to use this power chords and note some other power chords.
Section B:
I am not sure the sweep part is correct, I think the guitar player goes up and down a little on the sweep picking part.
Again the Rhythm part is me just trying to guess the notes.
Section C:
This one is a total mess.
Last Descending Run:
This one is also me trying to guess, but I am sure I guessed the last note, where it lands.
Posted by: Steve Gilfield Jan 5 2021, 08:23 PM
Solo is pretty easy, especially since we have a video of the guitar player playing it like the album version 
I don't have GP so I can't see in which part of the solo you are stuck.
So if you can export it as a pdf then I can have a look at it and patch it up.
But like Todd said, it will be a great learning experience to try transcribe it as much as you can on your own. It will help you tremendously!
Hint: In most cases the solo follows the chords' notes i.e if the guitar is playing C major, then the solo has the Root note ©, it's major 3rd (E) and its 5th (G). So its mostly arpeggios of the chords up and down.
The original song is played using half step down
I transcribed using normal tuning, so if you play against the original song you should sound with one semi-tone above.
This video should be very helpful, posted recently, posted very recently by the band
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=235396901501688
Some Comments:
I am pretty sure the drums could be improved.
Section A:
I am not sure on the Rhythm Guitar in the last bar,
The other power chords sounds ok to me, but I am not sure why to use this power chords and note some other power chords.
Section B:
I am not sure the sweep part is correct, I think the guitar player goes up and down a little on the sweep picking part.
Again the Rhythm part is me just trying to guess the notes.
Section C:
This one is a total mess.
Last Descending Run:
This one is also me trying to guess, but I am sure I guessed the last note, where it lands.
Posted by: Victor Simion Jan 5 2021, 08:30 PM
I don't have GP so I can't see in which part of the solo you are stuck.
So if you can export it as a pdf then I can have a look at it and patch it up.
But like Todd said, it will be a great learning experience to try transcribe it as much as you can on your own. It will help you tremendously!
Hint: In most cases the solo follows the chords' notes i.e if the guitar is playing C major, then the solo has the Root note ©, it's major 3rd (E) and its 5th (G). So its mostly arpeggios of the chords up and down.
Ok, thank you for help.
Here I attached the PDFs, you don't use guitar pro, not even an older version like GP5?
Trooper___Inca_O_Lupta_Lead_Guitar.pdf ( 67.03K )
: 154
Trooper___Inca_O_Lupta_Rhythm_Guitar.pdf ( 56.49K )
: 155Posted by: jstcrsn Jan 5 2021, 10:03 PM
oops didn't see the tab
Posted by: Steve Gilfield Jan 5 2021, 10:10 PM
I used to have on my laptop an old version of it but I deleted it, and now I think you have to pay for it.
I don't really use tabs anymore so..
Anyway, on section A you mixed up the notes of the main melody with the notes of the harmony.
Also there is an easier way to play those parts by using two strings than three.
On the facebook video the guitar player is doing the two-string playing as well.
Let me download gp7 and show it to you.
Here I attached the PDFs, you don't use guitar pro, not even an older version like GP5?
Posted by: Todd Simpson Jan 5 2021, 10:28 PM
He mentions in his post above that the song is half a step down and that he is using standard tuning.
Posted by: Steve Gilfield Jan 5 2021, 10:44 PM
Here is what the first guitar player is playing for section A.
I wrote it like he is playing it on the video.
Of course you can change the positions of the notes to make it easier for you to transition from arpeggio to arpeggio.
inca_trooper.gp ( 9.26K )
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Posted by: Victor Simion Jan 5 2021, 11:43 PM
I wrote it like he is playing it on the video.
Of course you can change the positions of the notes to make it easier for you to transition from arpeggio to arpeggio.
inca_trooper.gp ( 9.26K )
: 167I think you are right about the way he plays.
The arpeggios are easier for me to play like this and also you changed the arpeggio notes to make them all equal, I checked the video again and you are right in here also.
You said that I am free to change the positions as I want, but I don't want to change them, I want to make them exactly like it's played.
So thank you again, this is a nice start.
Posted by: Victor Simion Jan 6 2021, 12:51 PM
Let's discuss Section A of the solo.
I think the Lead Guitar is correct now, thanks to Steve.
Regarding the Rhythm Guitar, I think the power chords are ok, except for the last bar, something doesn't sound right to me.
Not sure how to figure the power chords.
My question is:
How do I figure the power chords for Section A?
I am trying to follow this hint:
"Hint: In most cases the solo follows the chords' notes i.e if the guitar is playing C major, then the solo has the Root note ©, it's major 3rd (E) and its 5th (G). So its mostly arpeggios of the chords up and down."
How do I figure out what scale and what key the section A is using?
Posted by: Steve Gilfield Jan 6 2021, 10:28 PM
The Section A chords you wrote on GP7 are correct except the very last part. I think he is playing
A5 B5 F#5 G#5 A5
I think the Lead Guitar is correct now, thanks to Steve.
Regarding the Rhythm Guitar, I think the power chords are ok, except for the last bar, something doesn't sound right to me.
Not sure how to figure the power chords.
My question is:
How do I figure the power chords for Section A?
I am trying to follow this hint:
"Hint: In most cases the solo follows the chords' notes i.e if the guitar is playing C major, then the solo has the Root note ©, it's major 3rd (E) and its 5th (G). So its mostly arpeggios of the chords up and down."
How do I figure out what scale and what key the section A is using?
S
Posted by: Victor Simion Jan 7 2021, 06:23 PM
Here is my updated version of the solo, I worked on the other parts also.
Section A should be ready, except I am not still sure if the last bar is correct. ( I mean the Rhythm Guitar the Lead Guitar should be correct)
Once we can be sure about Section A we can move to the next sections and correct them.
Thank you very much, this means a lot for me.
Posted by: Victor Simion Jan 17 2021, 04:35 PM
This solo is almost done,
I think it's pretty close.
Section A: Should be good
Section B: I fixed the sweep picking parts
Section C: I think these are the notes, but when I play over the song it sounds a bit off. Do you think my notes are not good or is his guitar out of tune there?
These is the song and the original song is tunes 1/2 half step down.
You can play the exact notes wrote by me in Guitar Pro just tune your guitar 1/2 half step down in order to play along the original song.
Posted by: Todd Simpson Jan 18 2021, 01:09 AM
It sounds great IMHO!! The production sounds good and your playing is top notch!!! You've done a great job learning this. It's a great way to expand your ability on guitar.
Todd
Posted by: Victor Simion Jan 27 2021, 10:47 PM
Todd
Thank you Todd, but this is not my playing. The YouTube video is just the band playing.
Posted by: Todd Simpson Jan 28 2021, 12:51 AM
my bad. I listened to the guitar pro and I think you have a very good start on this!
Posted by: Victor Simion Feb 13 2021, 11:10 AM
I changed again the Section B, a bit, in the sweep picking parts.
Not sure which are the correct notes.
Posted by: Todd Simpson Feb 13 2021, 11:45 PM
Truly impressive. Your ability to transcribe complicated passages is pretty astounding. Did you do all of this by ear? Also, are you able to play any of this?
Not sure which are the correct notes.
Posted by: Victor Simion Feb 14 2021, 06:11 PM
I transcribed using also this video for help.
Solo starts at 2:42
Yes, I can play this but there are some parts that are giving me some problems.
Section A:
The parts that I highlighted using blue are giving me some small hand synch issues, they are played as legato(but I haven't written that in Guitar Pro). It's a bit hard for me to do a legato using second finger and pinky finger, third finger and pinky.
Section B:
The parts highlighted using red are giving me more problems. The sweeps seems hard for me since I have to go back and forth at different speeds. Not sure I have transcribed them correctly also, please check the video for comparison.
Also measure 14 which is second 3:04, I think the guitar player is messing the sweep part since I can hear some dead notes.
Can someone help me fix the sweep picking part?
And also need some advice on mastering the parts that are giving me problems.
Posted by: Victor Simion Feb 23 2021, 06:11 PM
I will post just an audio file.
Let me know what you think of my playing.
I am still practicing this one and maybe I will post a video but in the meantime I keep on practicing.
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