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Posted by: Spiderusalem Nov 13 2007, 06:23 AM
You knew this was bound to happen.... Rolling Stone Magazine had their list, Guitar Xtra had their list, and now its our turn to come up with the list of the 100 greatest guitar players of all time.
*Wow Spider, I'm excited. But how is this gonna work?*
I was just getting to that. Should you choose to participate, this is what you'll do: turn in a list of who you think should make it to the top 20 (or top 10 if you cant come up with 20) in order, as well as a list of honorable mentions that should make it in the 100. We'll also use the thread to discuss and debate the candidates and what-not (and as always, lets keep our debates friendly and fist-fight-clean). If you feel that a certain guitarist deserves a position, tell us why!
We'll keep this going for.......hmmm.... lets say two weeks (but can extend it if extra time is necessary.) and at the end of this time, myself and a panel of judges that know much much more than me will finalize and assemble the list.
At this time, I'd like that panel to consist of:
Unleash-the-Shred
tonymiro
shredmandan
MickeM
mattacuk
botoxfox
The Uncreator
Robin
I think the gap in age/experience will even things out. Also, I know I'm volunteering you guys without your permission (when do I ever get anyones permission to do anything?) so feel free not to take up your panelist duties. Any instructors that have free time on their hands and would like to participate in the panel would also be welcome (and encouraged!).
*awesome Spider, but how do we define "great"?*
well thats largely up to you. off the top of my head, I would factor in these traits:
-Skill
-Style
-Influence
-Achievements
-Innovations
-Originality
-The test of time
Also, keep in mind that this is a list of the Greatest guitarists of all time! Beit, this site is a little more rock-n-roll/blues/metal oriented (and the list will surely reflect that) but it would be an injustice not to mention the guitar greats of jazz or flamenco for example.
The styles we should keep in mind while constructing the list are:
Rock-n-Roll (classic and modern)
Metal (in all its incarnations)
Blues
Jazz
Flamenco
Classical
Country
R&B
Thats about all I can say at this point. If you feel I should add or say anything else, please tell me.
But until then, just go at it. lets see your lists. lets make this happen!
POST YOUR LISTS ON THIS THREAD
EVERYONE IS WELCOME/ENCOURAGED TO PARTICIPATE
Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Nov 13 2007, 06:46 AM
Cool idea Spider, looking forward to seeing how it works out, but I beg you m don't make me a judge, I know nothing of most guitarists ... I am genuinely ignorant about s lot of great guitarists, so I wouldn't make a good judge ...
Posted by: Spiderusalem Nov 13 2007, 06:47 AM
....... I really dont know how serious you're being
Posted by: shredmandan Nov 13 2007, 06:51 AM
Im in man 
Just tell me what i need to do and i'll work on it
Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Nov 13 2007, 07:02 AM
Really, I'm being serious, trust me! I listened to very few guitarists a lot, like Gilmour, Moore, Plant and a few others, but I am pretty ignorant when it comes to Metal and Shred.
Posted by: spdalton Nov 13 2007, 07:17 AM
Great idea 
.
What do we have to do to submit a list?
Posted by: Spiderusalem Nov 13 2007, 07:18 AM
.What do we have to do to submit a list?
just post it up here
Posted by: shredmandan Nov 13 2007, 07:20 AM
so you want me to post a list of top 20 on this page spider?
Posted by: Spiderusalem Nov 13 2007, 07:21 AM
yes
Posted by: Animosity Nov 13 2007, 07:23 AM
1. Jimmy Page
2. Eric Clapton
3. Eddie Van Halen
4. Kirk Hammett
5. Randy Rhoads
6. Stevie Ray Vaughan
7. Zakk Wylde
8. Brian May
9. Carlos Santana
10. Steve Vai
11. Slash
12. Joe Walsh
13. Joe Satriani
14. Ted Nugent
15. B.B. King
16. Jimi Hendrix
17. Tony Iommi
18. Pete Townsend
19. Mike McCready
20. The Edge
Honorable Mentions(No Particular Order):
- Joe Perry
- John Fogerty
- Buckethead
- Jeff Beck
- Ritchie Blackmore
- David Gilmour
- Kurt Cobain
Posted by: Pavel Nov 13 2007, 07:28 AM
You...betrayed me!
Posted by: steve25 Nov 13 2007, 07:29 AM
Are we all aloud to do this? And if so does it have to be in order of your favourite?
Posted by: botoxfox Nov 13 2007, 07:30 AM
Cool, I'm in the panel... 
Posted by: Spiderusalem Nov 13 2007, 07:31 AM
Heres mine:
1. Jimi hendrix
2. Robert Johnson
3. Eddie Van Halen
4. Stevie Ray Vaughan
5. Chet Atkins
6. Andres Segovia
7. Joe Pass
8. Les paul
9. Eric Claption
10. Tony Iommi
11. BB King
12. Chuck Berry
13. Eric Johnson
14. Jimmy Page
15. Jeff Beck
16. Steve Vai
17. Randy Rhodes
18. Joe Satriani
19. Michael Angelo Batio
20. Slash
yes anyone can turn in their list
and yes it has to be in order (do the best you can)
Posted by: kevin-riff-after-riff Nov 13 2007, 07:33 AM
technically probably buckethead but i dont think he is very socialble lol
Posted by: shredmandan Nov 13 2007, 07:34 AM
Forgot to put in order Ill work on it.
Posted by: Spiderusalem Nov 13 2007, 07:36 AM
Ill work on it.lol you had me going. I read John 5 as # 1 and I went "WHAT?" out loud. the folks that live with me wondered what happened lol.
Posted by: spdalton Nov 13 2007, 07:41 AM
1. Jimmy Page
2. Jimi Hendrix
3. David Gilmour
4. Randy Rhoads
5. Brian May
6. B.B King
7. Slash
8. Eric Clapton
9. Eddie Van Halen
10. Tony Iommi
11. Mark Knopfler
12. Angus Young
13. SRV
14. Mike McCready
15. Neil Young
16. Jeff Beck
17. Dimebag Darrell
18. Kirk Hammett
19. Peter Frampton
20. Tom Morello
Others:
Carlos Santana
Ritchie Blackmore
Pete Townsend
Steve Vai
Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Nov 13 2007, 07:44 AM
Sorry Pavel
I should have said ...The only Shredders I know are Steve Vai and of course Pavel - so my list will be short!
1. Pavel
2. Steve Vai
Posted by: Zephyr Nov 13 2007, 07:45 AM
1) Joe Satriani
2) Steve Vai
3) Eric Johnson
4) Andy Timmons
5) Jeff Beck
6) Paul Gilbert
7) David Gilmour
8) Carlos Santana
9) Eric Clapton
10) Eddie Van Halen
11) Kirk Hammet
12) Stevie Ray Vaughan
13) Slash
14) Stanley Jordan
15) Yngwie Malmsteen
16) Andy McKee
17) Mark Knopfler
18) Johnny A.
19) Jimi Hendrix
20) Andres Segovia
...I'm not really happy with this list at all, there's so many that I can't think of, and I really couldn't put them in order, so I just kind of threw them together... Not to mention, I don't really believe in the "best" guitarist, there are so many different ways of playing!... but, I guess this is my list for now...
Posted by: Animosity Nov 13 2007, 07:47 AM
I should have said ...The only Shredders I know are Steve Vai and of course Pavel - so my list will be short!
1. Pavel
2. Steve Vai
'Tis a list of the 100 Greatest Guitarists Of All Time. You don't have to just post metal/shred.
Posted by: Robin Nov 13 2007, 07:49 AM
1. Bjørn Berge - If he doesnt get to be on the top 100 list I'll leave GMC forever! NOONE plays like him and his skills are just amazing.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Pfte-sL1Jtc
2. Øystein Sunde - He's the best lyric writer ever imo. He also have a pretty unique style, he's not another one of those rock/shred dudes. He plays alot of different styles.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vhlu2ybpzC8
3. Johnny Winter - Really good bluesrock guitarist, you instantly recognize that its him playing.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=-8siLZ4zNbY
4. Robert Johnson - A HUGE influence on blues and rock music. He got so many classic songs.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Yd60nI4sa9A
5. John Butler - What can I say, amazing acoustic playing.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=6VAkOhXIsI0
6. John Fogerty - Excellent player, singer and songwriter, really good rock'n'roll.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=zZe9OtFNt_8
7. Robert Randolph - Noone plays like him, he lpays a 13 string lapsteel guitar.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Nw9xvy1DWsk
8. Adrian Smith - Soooo freakin good tone and phrasing.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=rAWb1e3aU1s
9. Paul Gilbert - He's pretty much the only shredder I like. I love his rock'n'rollish style and raw sound. Really kewl guy aswell.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=XIzmmSSqZzQ
10. Robert Jr. Lockwood - Robert Johnson's step son(sort of I guess), enough said.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=38ZJNEqC6Ww
11. Leo Kottke - I just recently discovered this guy, I simply LOVE his style.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=tew_fIhz3eY
12. Snooks Eaglin - Ii like his acoustic solo stuff best, I couldnt seem to find anything on youtube though. Anyway, have a listen.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=nrbT5FWuTXs
13. Stevie Ray Vaughan - His super amazing warm strat tone is just... super mindblowing. I love his style, he REALLY got the groove.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=gGcgcOEvqE4
14. Muris Varajic - This guy should have been world famous long time ago. I love his amazing skills, tone and his ability to play any style. (Oh btw, I challenge you to try Bjørn Berges style 
)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=zcm8Ee4-3M0
15. B.B. King - The one and only. Noone can make the sounds he does. He kicks any shredders ass
with three notes imo.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=wNId8clBdbI
16. John Lee Hooker - Damn this guy kicks ass, I cant describe it in words, but there is just something about him that kicks ass.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qThmM5-y_Ok
17. Dave Murray - His tone and playing is like warm butter.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=geEWHhIiIOQ
18. John Mayer - He is like a mix of Hendrix and SRV. His playing is just so very, very groovy and emotional.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=6sPmTgPvx28
19. Ronnie Le Tekrø - He can really make some super cool effects and sounds with his guitar.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ToDzLVp00Gk
20. Stefan Grossman - He is an EXCELLENT guitar teacher. His knowledge about acoustic blues and playing is incredible.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=7LusucpCjMQ
I have probably posted wrong links and typos, I will check if everything is correct asap.
Looks kinda messy, oh well.
*phew* a little less messy now.
Posted by: Fsgdjv Nov 13 2007, 07:49 AM
Ok, here's my list, and I won't be going after skill at all, I'm going after what they actually play, so skill is a bonus, but not a must in my list. I'll write the names and what I love them for (it doesn't have to be thair main band).
1. Mikael Åkerfeldt (Opeth)
2. Don Anderson (Agalloch)
3. Steven Wilson (Porcupine Tree)
4. Jimmy Page (Led Zeppelin)
5-6. Munaf Rayani and Mark Smith (Explosions in the Sky)
7. Peter Lindgren (Opeth)
8. Akira Yamaoka (Silent Hill music, even though I never played a silent hill game (thanks Gen ))
9. Dan Swanö (Edge of Sanity and about 500 other bands)*
10. John McLaughlin (The Mahavishnu Orchestra, and for him just being himself)
11. Håvard Jørgensen (Ulver!)
12. Varg Vikernes (aka Burzum)
13. John Haughm (Agalloch)*
14. Buckethead (himself)
15. David Gilmour (Pink Floyd)
16. Slash (Guns 'N Roses)
17. Øystein Aarseth (aka Euronymous)
18. Zakk Wylde (Black Label Society)
19. Johannes Persson (Cult of Luna)*
20. Anders Nyström (aka Blakkheim) (Katatonia, Bloodbath)
Ugh, making this list was really hard, but I think I'm happy with it as it is now.
EDIT: Removed the number 18 that was mysteriously hiding under everything else.
EDIT2: Added a * wich means that I have a feeling I put them on there because they are awesome musicians, and not only awesome guitarists. I'm sorry for that mistake, but I suck at making lists
And some honary mentions: Tom Morello, John Petrucci, Björn Berge (I'm hooked now, thanks Robin).
Posted by: The Uncreator Nov 13 2007, 07:56 AM
Alright heres my list.
1. Dave Murray (Iron Maiden)
2. Steve Vai
3. Michael Angelo Batio
4. Mikael Akerfeldt (Opeth)
5. Jon Schaffer (Iced Earth)
6. Dallas Toller-Wade (Nile)
7. Karl Sanders (Nile)
8. Matt Heafy (Trivium)
9. Corey Beaulieu (Trivium)
10. Jeff Loomis (Nevermore)
11. Chris Broderick (Jag Panzer)
12. Dave Mustaine (Megadeth)
13. John Petrucci (Dream Theater)
14. Chuck Schuldiner (Death)
15. Andy LaRoque (King Diamond)
16. Tom Englund (Evergrey)
17. Henrik Danhage (Evergrey)
18. Rusty Cooley (Outworld)
19. Michael Amott (Arch Enemy)
20. Christopher Amott (Arch Enemy)
Honorable Mentions
Rob Barrett (Cannibal Corpse)
Jack Owen (Cannibal Corpse)
Alexi Laiho (Children Of Bodom)
Jari Maenpaa (Wintersun)
Glen Tipton (Judas Priest)
KK Downing (Judas Priest)
PS
I dont mind being a judge, i know alot of the guitarists mentioned hear fairly well.
Posted by: Robin Nov 13 2007, 08:01 AM
I'll write the names and what I love them for (it doesn't have to be thair main band).1. Mikael Åkerfeldt (Opeth)
2. Don Anderson (Agalloch)
3. Steven Wilson (Porcupine Tree)
4. Jimmy Page (Led Zeppelin)
5-6. Munaf Rayani and Mark Smith (Explosions in the Sky)
7. Peter Lindgren (Opeth)
8. Akira Yamaoka (Silent Hill music, even though I never played a silent hill game (thanks Gen
))9. Dan Swanö (Edge of Sanity and about 500 other bands)
10. John McLaughlin (The Mahavishnu Orchestra, and for him just being himself)
11. Håvard Jørgensen (Ulver!)
12. Varg Vikernes (aka Burzum)
13. John Haughm (Agalloch)
14. Buckethead (himself)
15. David Gilmour (Pink Floyd)
16. Slash (Guns 'N Roses)
17. Øystein Aarseth (aka Euronymous)
18. Zakk Wylde (Black Label Society)
19. Johannes Persson (Cult of Luna)
20. Anders Nyström (aka Blakkheim) (Katatonia, Bloodbath)
Ugh, making this list was really hard, but I think I'm happy with it as it is now.
EDIT: Removed the number 18 that was mysteriously hiding under everything else.
Interesting and different list. Varg Vikernes, Øystein Årseth, Nocturno Culto and Gylve "Fenriz" Nagell, you wont find better riff makers than them on this planet.
Posted by: Fsgdjv Nov 13 2007, 08:07 AM
Yeah, I thought about having nocturno culto and fenriz aswell, but there just wasn't enough room on the list
And, well, I really don't care about widdly woo guitarists and legends, I like what I like and what they do not their technique, so my list might not be the most technical (even though buckethead is up there!), but it's what I like
Posted by: shredmandan Nov 13 2007, 08:29 AM
Ok the topic is not my favorite ,but the greatest of all time.So here is in all styles my top 20
20.David Gilmour
19.Dimebag Darrell
18 Pat Metheney
17 Joe Pass
16 Duanna Alman
15 Randy Roads
14 Robert Johnson
13 Eric Johnson
12 Eric Clapton
11 Joe Satrioni
10 Steve VAI
09 yNGWIE Malmsteen
08 Chet Adkins
07 Les paul
06 Andres Segorvia
05Jimmy Page
04 Jimi Hendrix
03 Steve RAy Vaughn
02 T-Bone Walker
01 Eddie Van Halen
Posted by: Smikey2006 Nov 13 2007, 08:33 AM
In No particular order
1. Jimi Hendrix
2. Gus G(firewind)
3. Steve Vai
4. Joe Satrianai
5. Michael Angelo Batio
6. Michael Romeo(Symphony X)
7. John Petrucci(LTE and Dream Theater)
8. Paul Gilbert
9. Dave Mustaine(megadeth)
10. Mikael Akerfelt(OPETH)
11.Zack Wylde(Sabbath)
12. Jimmy Page
13.Alexi Haiho(Children of Bodom
13. Devin Townsend(strapping Young Lad)
14.Peter Lindgren(opeth)
15.Karl Sanders(Nile... already ranked 4th in worlds greatest death metal guitar players)
16.Thomas Erak (The Fall of Troy)
17. Eric Johnson
18. André Olbrich (BLIND GUARDIAN)
19.ralph santolla(Iced Earth)
20.Dino Cazares (fear Factory, Divine Heracy)
Posted by: shredmandan Nov 13 2007, 08:53 AM
I didnt know if we were just supposed to put are favorite guitarist ,i thought we were to put the best of all time including upto today.Thats why i selected the people i did.I dont listen to half of the ones i selected but i know they deserv there place in the top 20
Posted by: Unleash-The-Shred Nov 13 2007, 08:58 AM
Spider, add me to the panel I know quite a lot about guitarists and the inovation of the guitar.
Posted by: shredmandan Nov 13 2007, 09:01 AM
+1
HE could take Andrews place Spider
Posted by: Unleash-The-Shred Nov 13 2007, 09:07 AM
HE could take Andrews place Spider
Thanks Shredman!
Btw, what does the exclamation point mean at the beginning of this thread on the first post near Spider's name? Just curious.
Posted by: Spiderusalem Nov 13 2007, 07:44 PM
Btw, what does the exclamation point mean at the beginning of this thread on the first post near Spider's name? Just curious.
I put that there for dramatic purposes.
Ok, you're on the panel
Posted by: mattacuk Nov 13 2007, 08:01 PM
Spidey, This is a woderful idea, so well done on that.
The thing is, I only have around 10 guitarists on my list! And only 6 or 7 of those I really like. Anything else would just be filler! Do you still want me list?
Posted by: Unleash-The-Shred Nov 14 2007, 12:07 AM
The thing is, I only have around 10 guitarists on my list! And only 6 or 7 of those I really like. Anything else would just be filler! Do you still want me list?
You should still make it.
Ok, you're on the panel
Ahh ok, thanks for adding me in.
Posted by: mattacuk Nov 14 2007, 12:13 AM
Ok, my small but awsome list includes ;
Buckethead - You saw it comeing, what can I saw my jaw drops every time and i just really enjoy his music,
Paul Gilbert - Who would have thought !, he sings , hes dances, he shreds like no other! A total music power house
Yngwie Malmsteen - Love his tone, love is shred, nuff said.
Brian May - How can you not include the Great Brian May? His beautiful Hamonys sing out like no other!
The Edge - Love his rythm work, I like the way he finds new sounds and textures in each and every song.
BB King - A legend in Blues, just super music.
SRV - I dont know much about him, but i love his sound and techniques
And that my friends, are my favorites It an honest list from me to you 
Posted by: Unleash-The-Shred Nov 14 2007, 12:21 AM
Buckethead - You saw it comeing, what can I saw my jaw drops every time and i just really enjoy his music,
Paul Gilbert - Who would have thought !, he sings , hes dances, he shreds like no other! A total music power house
Yngwie Malmsteen - Love his tone, love is shred, nuff said.
Brian May - How can you not include the Great Brian May? His beautiful Hamonys sing out like no other!
The Edge - Love his rythm work, I like the way he finds new sounds and textures in each and every song.
BB King - A legend in Blues, just super music.
SRV - I dont know much about him, but i love his sound and techniques
And that my friends, are my favorites
It an honest list from me to you You add Buckethead, you add Gilbert, you add Malmsteen, but...NO PETRUCCI????????????
He is up there with them for sure. Shame on you Matt.
Posted by: mattacuk Nov 14 2007, 12:32 AM
He is up there with them for sure. Shame on you Matt. Well my friend, I have no doubt he is awsome! The truth is, I just havent listened to him!!
Posted by: Unleash-The-Shred Nov 14 2007, 12:37 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=t25AOSxZZkI
http://youtube.com/watch?v=v8pUqln36po
http://youtube.com/watch?v=-5VwPfyEq3w
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jSjog5GtMRI
I demand you to spend the next 5 hours listening to these over and over!
Then, you must purchase this!
http://johnpetrucci.safeshopper.com/14/cat14.htm?701
I'll be waiting...
Posted by: Robin Nov 14 2007, 12:46 AM
Hey Spider, is it possible for me to join the judges?
I thought it might be a good idea since I'm kinda into acoustic players(and electric of course ), jazz, blues etc. you know.
I see alot of metal and shred lovers in your panel
Posted by: Unleash-The-Shred Nov 14 2007, 12:48 AM
I thought it might be a good idea since I'm kinda into acoustic players(and electric of course ), jazz, blues etc. you know.
I see alot of metal and shred lovers in your panel
Yeah Robin should be in too.
Posted by: mattacuk Nov 14 2007, 12:57 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=t25AOSxZZkI
http://youtube.com/watch?v=v8pUqln36po
http://youtube.com/watch?v=-5VwPfyEq3w
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jSjog5GtMRI
I demand you to spend the next 5 hours listening to these over and over!
Then, you must purchase this!
http://johnpetrucci.safeshopper.com/14/cat14.htm?701
I'll be waiting...
Why thankyou kind sir. I will sit down this evening and watch them all!
Posted by: Unleash-The-Shred Nov 14 2007, 01:03 AM
You better.
Posted by: mattacuk Nov 14 2007, 01:10 AM
I will dont worry, as I know i will be in trouble
Posted by: Unleash-The-Shred Nov 14 2007, 01:12 AM
I'd be disappointed, not mad...Just kidding. You just need some Petruccication.
In other words Puetrucci Education.
Posted by: mattacuk Nov 14 2007, 01:15 AM
I'd be disappointed, not mad...Just kidding. You just need some Petrucci education.
Well IMO there is no education like "Shreducation"
Posted by: Unleash-The-Shred Nov 14 2007, 01:17 AM
Ok, I admit it you got me there.
But that would include Petruccication!
Posted by: mattacuk Nov 14 2007, 01:19 AM
But that would include Petruccication!
That is a serious mouthfull !
Posted by: Unleash-The-Shred Nov 14 2007, 01:22 AM
It is.
Posted by: Fsgdjv Nov 14 2007, 01:48 AM
I thought it might be a good idea since I'm kinda into acoustic players(and electric of course ), jazz, blues etc. you know.
I see alot of metal and shred lovers in your panel
Yeah, Robin knows his stuff basically about everything that isn't shred (ok, not *everything*, but you get the picture) and it feels like someone like him should be there.
Posted by: shredmandan Nov 14 2007, 01:58 AM
Im definatly a Metal or Shred lover ,but i listed alot of different player's than what i listen to by preference.I did it more on artist's that have been legends in there own style.
Robin does know alot about music and styles.I guess it';s all depending on Spider and if he has room.
Posted by: Spiderusalem Nov 14 2007, 02:03 AM
I thought it might be a good idea since I'm kinda into acoustic players(and electric of course ), jazz, blues etc. you know.
I see alot of metal and shred lovers in your panel
I was thinking of someone that was into acoustic players, and jazz and the blues. Ok your in.
I just really hope that we get more lists, especially from instructors *wink wink nudge nudge*
Posted by: Unleash-The-Shred Nov 14 2007, 02:04 AM
Robin does know alot about music and styles.I guess it';s all depending on Spider and if he has room.
I agree with you, it shouldnt be all about guitarists you like so you think that they should be on the list. If they have proven themselves great then they will most likely make it though. So when making your lists keep in mind that it is the GREATEST GUITARISTS OF ALL TIME, not the greatest shredder this year in your opinion. Vote for guitarists who deserve to be on the list.
Note to Spidey:
Maybe we should extend the list to 200 so we can get a more fulfilled list after the results are in.
Kind of like these lists. http://digitaldreamdoor.com/
They say 100 greatests guitarists of whatever genre but they do extend it farther than that.
Posted by: Robin Nov 14 2007, 02:06 AM
Thanks guys! I thought that variation could be nice, but not too much variation, then we'd never agree
Posted by: Fsgdjv Nov 14 2007, 02:06 AM
Robin does know alot about music and styles.I guess it';s all depending on Spider and if he has room.
I know that a lot of you (or all I suppose) doesn't listen exclusively to shred, but it's good to have a lot of different people. And yeah, he knows a lot about music and styles.
Posted by: Spiderusalem Nov 14 2007, 02:06 AM
Note to Spidey:
Maybe we should extend the list to 200 so we can get a more fulfilled list after the results are in.
Kind of like these lists. http://digitaldreamdoor.com/
They say 100 greatests guitarists of whatever genre but they do extend it farther than that.
well we can always do something like "the next hundred" lol. There are so many great players, something tells me that it will also be an interesting list.
But first, I'd really like to assemble the first hundred.
Posted by: Iluha Nov 14 2007, 02:46 AM
Here I go(it's not in order, because I don't think there is an order):
1.Joe Satriani
2.Paul Gilbert
3.Andy Timmons
4.Slash
5.Frank Gambale
6.Nuno Bittencourt
7.Allan Holdsworth
8.Jimi Hendrix
9.Stevie Ray Vaughan
10.John Petrucci
11.Steve Vai
12.Bumblefoot
13.Buckethead
14.Don Ross
15.Reb Beach
16.Gary Moore
17.Vinnie Moore
18.Mare Knofler
19.Jeff Beck
20.Yngwie Malmsteen
Posted by: Unleash-The-Shred Nov 14 2007, 02:53 AM
But first, I'd really like to assemble the first hundred.
Perhaps even make lists based on certain styles like on that site. 100 Greatest Jazz Guitarists, 100 Greatest Metal Guitarists, etc.
Posted by: Robin Nov 14 2007, 03:08 AM
I doubt we can come up with 100 jazz guitarists
Posted by: Unleash-The-Shred Nov 14 2007, 03:09 AM
Its possible with some research.
Of course Allan Holdsworth and Shawn Lane will most likely top the list
Posted by: Robin Nov 14 2007, 03:12 AM
Of course Allan Holdsworth and Shawn Lane will most likely top the list
Well yeah, research, but I dont think anyone at GMC actually listen to this many jazz guitarists. Would be weird to put tons of guitarists on a list when we havent even heard them play
I like jazz, but I'm more into saxamaphones, trumpets, piano etc when it comes to jazz
Oh btw, heres a few jazz guitarists that we can perhaps have in the list:
Jon Larsen
Halgeir Pedersen
Stanley Jordan
Joe Pass
Posted by: Unleash-The-Shred Nov 14 2007, 03:18 AM
I like jazz, but I'm more into saxamaphones, trumpets, piano etc when it comes to jazz
Yeah, we could just do a smaller list for that though.
Here is the jazz list according to the Digitaldreamdoor.com site. We could look through those choices.
1. Wes Montgomery
2. Django Reinhardt
3. Pat Metheny
4. Joe Pass
5. Charlie Christian
6. John McLaughlin
7. Allan Holdsworth
8. Grant Green
9. John Scofield
10. Jim Hall
11. Larry Coryell
12. Kenny Burrell
13. Bill Frisell
14. Larry Carlton
15. Pat Martino
16. Mike Stern
17. Al DiMeola
18. Lenny Breau
19. Herb Ellis
20. John Abercrombie
21. George Benson
22. Lee Ritenour
23. Tal Farlow
24. Lonnie Johnson
25. Eddie Lang
26. Robert Conti
27. Johnny Smith
28. Bill Connors
29. George Van Eps
30. Jimmy Bruno
31. Jimmy Raney
32. Hank Garland
33. Joe Diorio
34. Barney Kessel
35. Kurt Rosenwinkel
36. Oscar Moore
37. Les Paul
38. Jeff Golub
39. Ed Bickert
40. Russ Freeman
41. Derek Bailey
42. Charlie Hunter
43. Martin Taylor
44. Howard Roberts
45. Stanley Jordan
46. Ralph Towner
47. Chet Atkins
48. Scott Henderson
49. George Barnes
50. Gabor Szabo
51. Mark Stefani
52. Thom Rotella
53. Nick Webb
54. Charley Byrd
55. Ted Greene
56. Billy Bauer
57. Henry Johnson
58. Billy Bean
59. Sonny Greenwich
60. Dean Parks
61. Steve Khan
62. Frank Gambale
63. Andy Summers
64. Russell Malone
65. Ronny Jordan
66. Bireli Lagrene
67. Earl Klugh
68. Grant Geissman
69. Carl Kress
70. Harry Volpe
71. Buzz Feiten
72. Lorne Lofsky
73. Nguyen Le
74. Robben Ford
75. Daryl Stuermer
76. Phil Upchurch
77. Ulf Wakenius
78. Hiram Bullock
79. Sonny Sharrock
80. John Pizzarelli
81. Tony Mottola
82. Bucky Pizzarelli
83. Norman Brown
84. Tiny Grimes
85. Tommy Tedesco
86. Mark Whitfield
87. Julio Fernandez
88. Marc Ribot
89. Greg Carmichael
90. John Pisano
91. Emily Remler
92. Brian Hughes
93. Fitzroy Coleman
94. Mick Goodrick
95. Kevin Eubanks
96. Ken Navarro
97. Wolfgang Muthspiel
98. Tuck Andress
99. Robert Normann
100. Howard Alden
Posted by: Robin Nov 14 2007, 03:25 AM
Omg django reinhardt, how could I forget. Oh and Angelo Debarre. So many on that list that I recognize when I see it, but I havent heard much from any of them.
Posted by: Unleash-The-Shred Nov 14 2007, 03:27 AM
Yeah I havent heard much from a lot of them either but I plan on checking out a lot of guitarists on those lists from that site. Perhaps we could come across some very underrated but well talented musicians.
Posted by: Spiderusalem Nov 14 2007, 03:39 AM
We can definitely do that....but later.
As many varied styles as there are to playing guitar (wow that rhymed. I should start rapping) I think this instrument is more "universal" than we tend to let on. A great guitar player is a great guitar player, and we recognize them as such no matter the style. So for simplicities sake, lets do this list first.
But I do like your idea
Posted by: Unleash-The-Shred Nov 14 2007, 03:40 AM
As many varied styles as there are to playing guitar (wow that rhymed. I should start rapping) I think this instrument is more "universal" than we tend to let on. A great guitar player is a great guitar player, and we recognize them as such no matter the style. So for simplicities sake, lets do this list first.
But I do like your idea
Yeah of course we should finish this first.
Posted by: SLASH91 Nov 14 2007, 03:53 AM
OK, I'll have a list for later.
Posted by: Muris Nov 14 2007, 04:17 AM
+1 Robin
Posted by: Unleash-The-Shred Nov 14 2007, 04:20 AM
Robin you almost disappointed Muris by ALMOST forgetting about Django...NOT GOOD!
Posted by: Spiderusalem Nov 14 2007, 04:21 AM
wheres your list mister?
as in muris, not robin
Posted by: Unleash-The-Shred Nov 14 2007, 04:22 AM
I wouldn't talk to Muris like that. He might kill you with his lightening speed shred.
Posted by: Muris Nov 14 2007, 04:25 AM
Ahh my list is way too long,excuse me this time guys
Posted by: Spiderusalem Nov 14 2007, 04:27 AM
Ahh my list is way too long,excuse me this time guys
awww.
make it as long as you want. really, I think everyone on this forum wants to see it.
Posted by: Unleash-The-Shred Nov 14 2007, 04:27 AM
Ahh my list is way too long,excuse me this time guys
*Excuses Muris in fear of death by shred*
Posted by: Muris Nov 14 2007, 04:31 AM
Who said I'm a shredder in a first place??!?? 
Posted by: Spiderusalem Nov 14 2007, 04:32 AM
Do you fight the ninja turtles?
Posted by: Muris Nov 14 2007, 04:33 AM
Used to,yep
Posted by: Spiderusalem Nov 14 2007, 04:34 AM
Your a shredder
Posted by: Unleash-The-Shred Nov 14 2007, 04:36 AM
I rest my case!
Posted by: Animosity Nov 14 2007, 04:36 AM
I fight real turtles.
Posted by: Spiderusalem Nov 14 2007, 04:37 AM
thats cool. I fight real ninjas
Posted by: Unleash-The-Shred Nov 14 2007, 04:38 AM
Sorry, we already have a Shredder.
Posted by: Spiderusalem Nov 14 2007, 04:39 AM
but before we have a ball with going off-topic
I encourage everyone to participate and turn in your list if you havn't already.
Posted by: Animosity Nov 14 2007, 04:39 AM
Sweet, maybe we can team up some time?
Posted by: Muris Nov 14 2007, 04:40 AM
Ok,now let's leave the thread to its purpose
Posted by: JVM Nov 14 2007, 04:40 AM
I'd love to participate but i really don't feel like reading through 5 pages right now
Posted by: Spiderusalem Nov 14 2007, 04:41 AM
so we can make way for muris's awesome list
you dont need to. just read the first post. not necessary to read the other lists.
Posted by: Unleash-The-Shred Nov 14 2007, 04:43 AM
That means you have to fight Muris.
I think it will take quite a few of us to top his shredtastic skills.
All you have to do is post a list of the greatest guitarists in your opinion.
Posted by: shredmandan Nov 14 2007, 04:43 AM
Thats right
Even though Muris can shred it's not his preferance
Posted by: JVM Nov 14 2007, 04:44 AM
I know. But I like to be able to discuss others lists and such. I mean, I'll read it later and make my list when I'm less tired
Posted by: WillH Nov 14 2007, 05:34 AM
1. Jimi Hendrix
2. Jimmy Page
3. Eric Clapton
4. Jeff Beck
5. Rhandy Rhoads
6. SRV
7. Buddy Guy
8. Robert Johnson
9. Santana
10. B.B King
Honourable Mentions
Noel Gallagher
Keith Richards
George Harrison
Posted by: Juan M. Valero Nov 14 2007, 06:16 AM
1. Loureiro
2. Vai
3. Eklundh
4. Gilbert
5. Petrucci
6. Smolski
7. Satriani
8. Van Halen
9. Becker
10. Friedman
11. Cooley
12. Romeo
...
Special Mention: (no profesionals)
David Valdes
Paco Hernandez
Matt
Posted by: tonymiro Nov 14 2007, 07:05 AM
For me, though I'll probably change my mind at some point soon:
1) Allan Holdsworth
2) John McLaughlin
3) Pat Metheny
4) Charlie Christian
5) Joe Pass
6) Paco de Lucia
7) Al di Meola
8) Mike Stern
9) Mick Goodrick
10) Jeff Beck
11) Martin Taylor
12) Steve Morse
13) Scott Henderson
14) Shawn Lane
15) Steve Kahn
16) Pat Martino
17) Joe Diorio
18) Larry Coryell
19) Wes Montgomery
20 Howard Roberts
Honourable mentions: Larry Carlton, Tal Farlowe, Hiram Bullock, Brett Garsed, Alex Machacek, Ray Russell, Ted Greene, Frank Zappa, John Scofield, Frank Gambale, David Torn, Bill Frisell, Emily Remler....
Cheers,
Tony
Posted by: fkalich Nov 14 2007, 07:29 AM
1) Allan Holdsworth
2) John McLaughlin
3) Pat Metheny
...............
Tony
Surprised that you would leave Page out. Who was more influential than Page in the heavy rock genre? I dare say, nobody.
Posted by: tonymiro Nov 14 2007, 07:38 AM
Very true Fkalich but HR isn't really my end and so my list probably reflects my musical taste as such. There's maybe a discernible bias in my list towards jazz/fusion . I'm sure that Page will make the cut - probably more chance then most/maybe all those on my top 20 however.
Cheers,
Tony
Posted by: jeff Nov 14 2007, 07:51 AM
Wow this is hard to do. 
I've got to say that I listen to whatever lead I think is great regardless of who plays it in any style. But if I had to say that there were some of the greatest guitarists that never disappoint me I can think of a few that I believe that are probably from another planet. Way beyond what I could ever hope to achieve. That would start with:
1.) Al Dimeola
2.) Alan Holdsworth
3.) Shawn Lane
4.) Frank Gambale
5.) Tony Rice
you know what..., the list is just too long. I'll not clutter up this thread any longer.
Posted by: tonymiro Nov 14 2007, 08:15 AM
Nice list imho Jeff, short but very sweet to my ears .
Cheers,
Tony
Posted by: shredmandan Nov 14 2007, 08:20 AM
Great job so far guys
I love seeing all the variety of different opinions and styles on here.Thats exactly what i tryed to do is rather than put my favorite shredder's just honestly list 20 of the greatst guitarist of all times.Its really tough to do though isnt it Especially once you get your list up and you look at it like man thats hard to say there the number 1 guitarist of all time
Posted by: g-forcelover Nov 14 2007, 08:22 AM
SLASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!! watch this!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3375750568648348930&q=slash+dirty+little+thing+solo&total=5&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=3
pay close attention to dirty little thing!!!!
and I forgot, Jimmy page, Jimi Hendrix, Van halen, Steve Via, & Synster Gates. If I spelled any wrong, whoops.
Posted by: SLASH91 Nov 14 2007, 09:16 AM
OK, here's a list that me and my friend came up with after band practice:
1. Steve Vai
2.John Petrucci
3.Zakk Wylde
4.Dave Mustain
5.Kirk Hammet
6.Jimmy Page
7.Bucket Head
8.Randy Rhoads
9.Eric Johnson
10.Marty Friedman
11.Dime bag
12.David Gilmore
13.Jimi Hendrix
14.Eric Clapton
15.EVH
16.SRV
17.Slash
18.Yingwie Malsteen
19.Tony Iomi
20.Joe Satriani
Honerable metion:
Paul Gilbert
B.B. King
I know that some of guitarists higher one this list aren't as good as some of the guitarists lower on it, but we kind of made it according to skill of the player and influence that the he has had on music in general. Not completely, though. That's why Vai is #1
Posted by: Proman1 Nov 14 2007, 01:48 PM
1. Steve Vai
2. Joe Satriani
3. Yngwie Malmsteen
4. John Petrucci
5. Jorma Kaukonen
6. Chet Atkins
7. Johnny Cash
8. Randy Rhoads
9. Eddie Van Halen
10. Paul Gilbert
11. Eric Johnson
12. Vinne Moore
13 Chris Olivera
14. Angus Young
15. Tony Iommi
16. Chris Impellitteri
17. Michael A. Batio
18. Rusty Cooley
19. Richie Kotzen
20. Buckethead
The first 15 on my list had a profound impact on my desire to play guitar and the others are just freakin' awesome....
Posted by: Skewlbuzz Nov 14 2007, 03:33 PM
Only one have mentioned Tom Morello.. I'm so disappointed in you guys!
He's by far one of the most original guitarists of recent times..
Ofc he's not a shredder, but his riffing definately rocks hard!
Posted by: Asphyxia Feeling Nov 14 2007, 03:42 PM
i'm excited to see how this turns out but i predict that it's going to be way too metal/shred guitarist oriented. learning how to play a style (metal for example) even to a near-perfect degree does not (in my opinion) make a player deserving of "best guitarist ever", it just means you're great at making a certain kind of music. however cliche this sounds, i think most of "the best guitarists ever" are either dead or already honored in best-of lists.
HOWEVER.. i am very excited with this idea, and can't wait to see how it turns out.
Posted by: shredmandan Nov 14 2007, 04:36 PM
He's by far one of the most original guitarists of recent times..
Ofc he's not a shredder, but his riffing definately rocks hard!
Tom definatly has a very unique style of his own but just my opinion i couldnt say he is oneof the 20 GReatest guitarist of all time.I used to listen to Rage back in the day ,but honestly his style is all effect driven and simple notes.He got really sorry once he started playing in Audioslave.Not saying he's not good but just not my type of player
HOWEVER.. i am very excited with this idea, and can't wait to see how it turns out.
Then why not post your top 20 to even it out more
?The more people that vote the more we will see different styles.Also i dont care for Jazz or really anything other than Metal and shred but look at my top 20 and tell me its all metal Ofcourse thats the most popular style mostly on here but i think everybody is giving different idea's and style's we just need to get your's in now
Posted by: Spiderusalem Nov 15 2007, 05:27 AM
HOWEVER.. i am very excited with this idea, and can't wait to see how it turns out.
me too =) but we cant get anywhere with this unless as many people as possible participate and turn in a list. I really want GMC to speak up about who they think deserves to be on here.
Posted by: Unleash-The-Shred Nov 15 2007, 05:31 AM
Nobody has mentioned Les Paul, and he has probably the biggest influence on all of us but most don't know it. Invented the Les Paul guitar (Inovator of the electric guitar since he helped create it). Invented Multi-track recording...
We would be nowhere without him.
Posted by: Arrival Nov 15 2007, 05:32 AM
1. Jimi Hendrix - nobody made more things possible on a guitar
2. Eric Johnson
3. John Petrucci
4. Eric Clapton
5. David Gilmour
6. Jeff Beck
7. Steve Howe
8. Pete Townshend
9. Eddie Van Halen
10. Harrison/Lennon - alone they weren't much to write home about, but they should really be considered. Truly most of us would not be playing guitar if not for the Beatles use and innovation of electric guitar.
I just can't do more than 10, it's too hard to weed others out.
For others to think about: the greatest doesn't represent the fastest, most successful, most influential, or most creative, it represents who makes the guitar the greatest. It is about who lifted the instrument to its fullest potential.
Posted by: Spiderusalem Nov 15 2007, 05:35 AM
We would be nowhere without him.
thats not true at all.
he's no. 8 on my list
Very well said. This is definitely something we'll keep in mind when it comes down to actually constructing the list.
Posted by: Unleash-The-Shred Nov 15 2007, 05:35 AM
he's no. 8 on my list
Very well said. This is definitely something we'll keep in mind when it comes down to actually constructing the list.
Whats not true, that nobody has mentioned him or the facts I stated about him?
Posted by: Spiderusalem Nov 15 2007, 05:37 AM
that nobody mentioned him. I mentioned him
and it does bother me that no one else has, lol.
I mean he is THE LES PAUL. lol
Posted by: Unleash-The-Shred Nov 15 2007, 05:41 AM
Oh I thought you meant the facts I mentioned
. Haha I was going to say...1. Jimi hendrix
2. Robert Johnson
3. Eddie Van Halen
4. Stevie Ray Vaughan
5. Chet Atkins
6. Andres Segovia
7. Joe Pass
8. Les paul
9. Eric Claption
10. Tony Iommi
11. BB King
12. Chuck Berry
13. Eric Johnson
14. Jimmy Page
15. Jeff Beck
16. Steve Vai
17. Randy Rhodes
18. Joe Satriani
19. Michael Angelo Batio
20. Slash
Ok, I am going to agree with your list except for a few things Spider.
Jimi Hendrix wouldn't be my # 1, I'd add John Petrucci and Yngwie in there.
And remove MAB and Slash.
That can be my list.
Posted by: Spiderusalem Nov 15 2007, 05:45 AM
Jimi Hendrix wouldn't be my # 1, I'd add John Petrucci and Yngwie in there.
And remove MAB and Slash.
That can be my list.
You know what, I can understand Slash. I put him there because I feel his playing translates into attitude better than almost anyone. But I can see why he wouldnt belong in the top 20.
However, why do you think MAB wouldn't make the list?
and also, why isnt hendrix your no 1?
Posted by: Arrival Nov 15 2007, 05:51 AM
Thanks
I think you can tell who constructed each list you can find. This list should be well discussed and we should avoid the little mistakes that other lists show. Anyway, if there's a significant debate about one or more guitarists on the list, you should open a thread for everyone to discuss the outcome.
Posted by: Unleash-The-Shred Nov 15 2007, 05:51 AM
Well to be honest, I don't think Hendrix should be number one because he didn't take the guitar as far as people think. Pete Townshend did A LOT also but he never really gets mentioned for that.
MAB wouldn't be on my list because I don't think he changed the guitar in a big way. Yeah he did take shred to another level but so did Petrucci and Yngwie.
Thats just my opinion.
Posted by: Spiderusalem Nov 15 2007, 05:55 AM
I think you can tell who constructed each list you can find. This list should be well discussed and we should avoid the little mistakes that other lists show. Anyway, if there's a significant debate about one or more guitarists on the list, you should open a thread for everyone to discuss the outcome.that'll definitely happen. I think there'll be a lot of unrest when we debate who deserves the coveted no. 1 spot.
Also, I think there are folks who would hunt me down (and the panel) if we didn't mention some guitarists. If we dont mention Bjorn Berge I think Robin might leave GMC and try to kill me
MAB wouldn't be on my list because I don't think he changed the guitar in a big way. Yeah he did take shred to another level but so did Petrucci and Yngwie.
Thats just my opinion.
Duly noted. though I think there are some folks that would debate hendrix with you. but thats what this thread is also for
Posted by: shredmandan Nov 15 2007, 05:59 AM
I think MAB deserves to be on the list and here's why I think he is an insanly great guitar player,i believe he was the first person to put 2 guitars together and shred on them with both hands at the same time.That alone i feel should put him up there. Just how i feel and i should have put him on my list but i was trying to stay out of the whole ''your just listing metal player's and shredder's thing ''
MAB wouldn't be on my list because I don't think he changed the guitar in a big way. Yeah he did take shred to another level but so did Petrucci and Yngwie.
Thats just my opinion.
Man im sorry but its just my opinion .Pete Townshend didnt do anything special other than invent that throwing your arm around in circile's while picking thing
also getting busted for looking at child porn on the internet.I think that should automaticly bann him from the list
Posted by: Spiderusalem Nov 15 2007, 06:00 AM
Just for fun, heres the Rolling Stones list of 100 greatest guitarists of all time...
1Jimi Hendrix
2 Duane Allman of the Allman Brothers Band
3 B.B. King
4 Eric Clapton
5 Robert Johnson
6 Chuck Berry
7 Stevie Ray Vaughan
8 Ry Cooder
9 Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin
10 Keith Richards of the Rolling Stones
11Kirk Hammett of Metallica
12 Kurt Cobain of Nirvana que?
13 Jerry Garcia of the Grateful Dead
14 Jeff Beck
15 Carlos Santana
16 Johnny Ramone of the Ramones what?
17 Jack White of the White Stripes ok theres wrong and then theres this
18 John Frusciante of the Red Hot Chili Peppers
19 Richard Thompson
20 James Burton
21 George Harrison
22 Mike Bloomfield
23 Warren Haynes
24 The Edge of U2
25 Freddy King
26 Tom Morello of Rage Against the Machine and Audioslave
27 Mark Knopfler of Dire Straits
28 Stephen Stills
29 Ron Asheton of the Stooges
30 Buddy Guy
31 Dick Dale
32 John Cipollina of Quicksilver Messenger Service
33 & 34 Lee Ranaldo, Thurston Moore of Sonic Youth
35 John Fahey
36 Steve Cropper of Booker T. and the MG's
37 Bo Diddley
38 Peter Green of Fleetwood Mac
39 Brian May of Queen
40 John Fogerty of Creedence Clearwater Revival
41 Clarence White of the Byrds
42 Robert Fripp of King Crimson
43 Eddie Hazel of Funkadelic
44 Scotty Moore
45 Frank Zappa
46 Les Paul
47 T-Bone Walker
48 Joe Perry of Aerosmith
49 John McLaughlin
50 Pete Townshend
51 Paul Kossoff of Free
52 Lou Reed
53 Mickey Baker
54 Jorma Kaukonen of Jefferson Airplane
55 Ritchie Blackmore of Deep Purple
56 Tom Verlaine of Television
57 Roy Buchanan
58 Dickey Betts
59 & 60 Jonny Greenwood, Ed O'Brien of Radiohead
61 Ike Turner
62 Zoot Horn Rollo of the Magic Band
63 Danny Gatton
64 Mick Ronson
65 Hubert Sumlin
66 Vernon Reid of Living Colour
67 Link Wray
68 Jerry Miller of Moby Grape
69 Steve Howe of Yes
70 Eddie Van Halen #70 people......
71 Lightnin' Hopkins
72 Joni Mitchell
73 Trey Anastasio of Phish
74 Johnny Winter
75 Adam Jones of Tool
76 Ali Farka Toure
77 Henry Vestine of Canned Heat
78 Robbie Robertson of the Band
79 Cliff Gallup of the Blue Caps (1997)
80 Robert Quine of the Voidoids
81 Derek Trucks
82 David Gilmour of Pink Floyd
83 Neil Young
84 Eddie Cochran
85 Randy Rhoads *sigh*
86 Tony Iommi of Black Sabbath this makes me sick
87 Joan Jett
88 Dave Davies of the Kinks
89 D. Boon of the Minutemen
90 Glen Buxton of Alice Cooper
91 Robby Krieger of the Doors
92 & 93 Fred "Sonic" Smith, Wayne Kramer of the MC5
94 Bert Jansch
95 Kevin Shields of My Bloody Valentine
96 Angus Young of AC/DC
97 Robert Randolph
98 Leigh Stephens of Blue Cheer
99 Greg Ginn of Black Flag
100 Kim Thayil of Soundgarden
Posted by: shredmandan Nov 15 2007, 06:01 AM
I think you can tell who constructed each list you can find. This list should be well discussed and we should avoid the little mistakes that other lists show. Anyway, if there's a significant debate about one or more guitarists on the list, you should open a thread for everyone to discuss the outcome.I like that idea
Good one
Posted by: Spiderusalem Nov 15 2007, 06:01 AM
also getting busted for looking at child porn on the internet.I think that should automaticly bann him from the list LMAO
I love you, man
Posted by: Robin Nov 15 2007, 06:02 AM
Ridiculous list.
Posted by: shredmandan Nov 15 2007, 06:03 AM
Honestly though spider every list thats ever made will always be up for debate and people will disagree.But putting the Ramones and Jack Black over EVH Randy Rhoads ect ect is a discrace to our World
Posted by: Spiderusalem Nov 15 2007, 06:05 AM
I agree that every list ever made will be up for dabate....
but CMON!
theres debatable....and then theres blasphemy...
Posted by: shredmandan Nov 15 2007, 06:05 AM
but CMON!
theres debatable....and then theres blasphemy...
Totaly agree!
Posted by: Arrival Nov 15 2007, 06:09 AM
And Petrucci is absent.
Posted by: Robin Nov 15 2007, 06:10 AM
Thats right.
But just take a listen to him on youtube and you'll instantly agree with me.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Pfte-sL1Jtc
http://youtube.com/watch?v=10KxXkNCzIg
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1pXtWCSAiFg
http://youtube.com/watch?v=mZQBh_7aBDk
He's the funniest one aswell http://youtube.com/watch?v=wcPc9qaA1zY
Posted by: Arrival Nov 15 2007, 06:15 AM
Here's the best list I think I've ever found http://digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_newguitar.html
Scrolling to the bottom reveals tons of other lists too.
Posted by: shredmandan Nov 15 2007, 06:17 AM
Scrolling to the bottom reveals tons of other lists too.
That is a pretty good list
Posted by: botoxfox Nov 15 2007, 06:20 AM
Scrolling to the bottom reveals tons of other lists too.
That list is a lot better than the RS one, altough Jimi Hendrix is still on top...
Posted by: Unleash-The-Shred Nov 15 2007, 06:55 AM
I think he is an insanly great guitar player,i believe he was the first person to put 2 guitars together and shred on them with both hands at the same time.That alone i feel should put him up there. Just how i feel and i should have put him on my list but i was trying to stay out of the whole ''your just listing metal player's and shredder's thing ''Man im sorry but its just my opinion .Pete Townshend didnt do anything special other than invent that throwing your arm around in circile's while picking thing
also getting busted for looking at child porn on the internet.I think that should automaticly bann him from the list Thats true. But Pete did more than that, he invented the power chord for one, which is used in tons of music today.
That makes me sick.
Scrolling to the bottom reveals tons of other lists too.
I've posted those lists several times on the forum before so i'm sure people have seen. But its ok haha. Just wanted to let you know.
Posted by: Arrival Nov 24 2007, 12:20 AM
Just wondering if this has made any progress behind the scenes?
Posted by: shellshock1911 Nov 24 2007, 02:16 AM
No offense, but I don't think Jimi Hendrix, Slash, Randy Rhoads, David Gilmour, Dimebag etc., should be anywhere close to the top 100.
In my opinion, how much a guitarist influenced others, how much a guitarist expressed "emotion," "passion," "feel," etc, and how much a guitarist contributed to the world of guitar is no matter. Since emotion, passion, and feel cannot be defined and has different meanings among listeners, I think it should not be brought up at all when making a list like this. I think the basis should be how much each guitarist understands the fundamentals of the guitar itself. Having said that, my Top 20 would have to be...
1- Yngwie Malmsteen
2- Jason Becker
3- Marty Friedman
4- Michael Angelo Batio
5- Chris Impellitteri
6- Shawn Lane
7- Paul Gilbert
8- Tony MacAlpine
9- Vinnie Moore
10- Michael Romeo (No one has a better knowledge of theory)
11- John Petrucci
12- Steve Vai
13- Greg Howe
14- Joe Satriani
15- Buckethead
16- Rusty Cooley
17- Fransceso Farerri
18- Bruce Bouillet (Paul Gilbert's sidekick. Extremely underrated)
19- Glen Drover (Also extremely underrated, listen to Burnt Ice, Washington is Next, etc.)
20- Eric Johnson.
Posted by: Robin Nov 24 2007, 02:19 AM
Posted by: Unleash-The-Shred Nov 24 2007, 02:28 AM
I don't agree at all. They all are great guitarists and have done plenty to deserve a spot.
Posted by: shellshock1911 Nov 24 2007, 02:38 AM
Yea, they are thousands great guitarists but I only put my Top 20. Like I said, the reason I don't think they should be up in the top 20 is because they all seem extremely basic. For example, they don't break out of the pentatonic and blues scales at all, every single solo is the same. David Gilmour plays EXTREMELY slow from what I've seen, so he doesn't really impress me much. I'm not saying speed determines ranking but, it should have a large impact. Very fast, clean, speed takes hours upon hours of practice, and therefore I think it should be considered. If I were to put Jimi Hendrix up there, it would be because of his immense knowledge of chords, not how much "passion" he had, or how much he contributed, and whatnot.
Posted by: Unleash-The-Shred Nov 24 2007, 02:56 AM
Ok, I get what you're saying now. But I still think they all greatly impacted the guitar in their own ways. David Gilmour doesn't always play slow by the way. Speed is very impressive but if you can play fast and can't come up with a solo that sounds like a bunch of nonsense it is very pointless. You must have melody to your playing too. All of the players you mentioned have writtin impressive music with great melody. That is why I didn't totally agree.
Now I do love shred and insane guitar playing so I do like your list very much. I do accept your selections greatly but everyones decision is their own opinion and who they were greatly influenced by and look at as their greatest guitar heroes is their choice.
Now I could see if people disagreed if someones top 3 consisted of like Curt Cobain, Jack Black, and Johnny Ramone because that would not make sence at all.
Posted by: 62-Rick Nov 24 2007, 04:12 AM
I see several of my own personal favorites (SRV, Jimi, EVH, RR, etc) so I won't re-list them again, they are well-covered...but here are a few that didn't seem to make the cut yet (no particular order)...or I missed them in my brief reading...
Jeff Healey (he's BLIND, how does he do it!!!)
Adrian Belew
Roy Buchanan
Jango ( I saw his name mentioned, but he died before practically all of us were even born! How did he do it in those days of no gadgets and such)
Alvin Lee
Steve Morse
And a ton of others we haven't mentioned yet.
Posted by: Unleash-The-Shred Nov 24 2007, 04:18 AM
Jeff Healey (he's BLIND, how does he do it!!!)
Adrian Belew
Roy Buchanan
Jango ( I saw his name mentioned, but he died before practically all of us were even born! How did he do it in those days of no gadgets and such)
Alvin Lee
Steve Morse
And a ton of others we haven't mentioned yet.
Yeah Jeff Healey is awesome and Django was amazing too but my favorite on that list is Steve Morse.
Posted by: Zephyr Nov 24 2007, 04:54 AM
1Jimi Hendrix
2 Duane Allman of the Allman Brothers Band
3 B.B. King
4 Eric Clapton
5 Robert Johnson
6 Chuck Berry
7 Stevie Ray Vaughan
8 Ry Cooder
9 Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin
10 Keith Richards of the Rolling Stones
11Kirk Hammett of Metallica
12 Kurt Cobain of Nirvana
13 Jerry Garcia of the Grateful Dead
14 Jeff Beck
15 Carlos Santana
16 Johnny Ramone of the Ramones
17 Jack White of the White Stripes
18 John Frusciante of the Red Hot Chili Peppers
19 Richard Thompson
20 James Burton
21 George Harrison
22 Mike Bloomfield
23 Warren Haynes
24 The Edge of U2
25 Freddy King
26 Tom Morello of Rage Against the Machine and Audioslave
27 Mark Knopfler of Dire Straits
28 Stephen Stills
29 Ron Asheton of the Stooges
30 Buddy Guy
31 Dick Dale
32 John Cipollina of Quicksilver Messenger Service
33 & 34 Lee Ranaldo, Thurston Moore of Sonic Youth
35 John Fahey
36 Steve Cropper of Booker T. and the MG's
37 Bo Diddley
38 Peter Green of Fleetwood Mac
39 Brian May of Queen
40 John Fogerty of Creedence Clearwater Revival
41 Clarence White of the Byrds
42 Robert Fripp of King Crimson
43 Eddie Hazel of Funkadelic
44 Scotty Moore
45 Frank Zappa
46 Les Paul
47 T-Bone Walker
48 Joe Perry of Aerosmith
49 John McLaughlin
50 Pete Townshend
51 Paul Kossoff of Free
52 Lou Reed
53 Mickey Baker
54 Jorma Kaukonen of Jefferson Airplane
55 Ritchie Blackmore of Deep Purple
56 Tom Verlaine of Television
57 Roy Buchanan
58 Dickey Betts
59 & 60 Jonny Greenwood, Ed O'Brien of Radiohead
61 Ike Turner
62 Zoot Horn Rollo of the Magic Band
63 Danny Gatton
64 Mick Ronson
65 Hubert Sumlin
66 Vernon Reid of Living Colour
67 Link Wray
68 Jerry Miller of Moby Grape
69 Steve Howe of Yes
70 Eddie Van Halen
71 Lightnin' Hopkins
72 Joni Mitchell
73 Trey Anastasio of Phish
74 Johnny Winter
75 Adam Jones of Tool
76 Ali Farka Toure
77 Henry Vestine of Canned Heat
78 Robbie Robertson of the Band
79 Cliff Gallup of the Blue Caps (1997)
80 Robert Quine of the Voidoids
81 Derek Trucks
82 David Gilmour of Pink Floyd
83 Neil Young
84 Eddie Cochran
85 Randy Rhoads
86 Tony Iommi of Black Sabbath
87 Joan Jett
88 Dave Davies of the Kinks
89 D. Boon of the Minutemen
90 Glen Buxton of Alice Cooper
91 Robby Krieger of the Doors
92 & 93 Fred "Sonic" Smith, Wayne Kramer of the MC5
94 Bert Jansch
95 Kevin Shields of My Bloody Valentine
96 Angus Young of AC/DC
97 Robert Randolph
98 Leigh Stephens of Blue Cheer
99 Greg Ginn of Black Flag
100 Kim Thayil of Soundgarden
Excuse me, GMC, I'm off to burn down Rolling Stone headquarters.
That list is wrong in oh-so-many ways!
Posted by: shredmandan Nov 24 2007, 05:27 AM
In my opinion, how much a guitarist influenced others, how much a guitarist expressed "emotion," "passion," "feel," etc, and how much a guitarist contributed to the world of guitar is no matter. Since emotion, passion, and feel cannot be defined and has different meanings among listeners, I think it should not be brought up at all when making a list like this. I think the basis should be how much each guitarist understands the fundamentals of the guitar itself. Having said that, my Top 20 would have to be...
1- Yngwie Malmsteen
2- Jason Becker
3- Marty Friedman
4- Michael Angelo Batio
5- Chris Impellitteri
6- Shawn Lane
7- Paul Gilbert
8- Tony MacAlpine
9- Vinnie Moore
10- Michael Romeo (No one has a better knowledge of theory)
11- John Petrucci
12- Steve Vai
13- Greg Howe
14- Joe Satriani
15- Buckethead
16- Rusty Cooley
17- Fransceso Farerri
18- Bruce Bouillet (Paul Gilbert's sidekick. Extremely underrated)
19- Glen Drover (Also extremely underrated, listen to Burnt Ice, Washington is Next, etc.)
20- Eric Johnson.
I agree with you mostly as far as your list.The only thing i couldnt really agree with was #15 Buckethead,i think everyone of the guitarist you had listed above like Hendrix,Dimebag ect are better than buckethead.Thats not to say i dont think he's a great guitarist but just my opinion on it as well
Posted by: Spiderusalem Nov 24 2007, 06:26 AM
jeeze I'm away for 10 days and this is all the activity thats occured? =P
Posted by: shredmandan Nov 24 2007, 07:49 AM
I know man where have you been
Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Nov 24 2007, 04:11 PM
In my opinion, how much a guitarist influenced others, how much a guitarist expressed "emotion," "passion," "feel," etc, and how much a guitarist contributed to the world of guitar is no matter. Since emotion, passion, and feel cannot be defined and has different meanings among listeners, I think it should not be brought up at all when making a list like this. I think the basis should be how much each guitarist understands the fundamentals of the guitar itself. Having said that, my Top 20 would have to be...
1- Yngwie Malmsteen
2- Jason Becker
3- Marty Friedman
4- Michael Angelo Batio
5- Chris Impellitteri
6- Shawn Lane
7- Paul Gilbert
8- Tony MacAlpine
9- Vinnie Moore
10- Michael Romeo (No one has a better knowledge of theory)
11- John Petrucci
12- Steve Vai
13- Greg Howe
14- Joe Satriani
15- Buckethead
16- Rusty Cooley
17- Fransceso Farerri
18- Bruce Bouillet (Paul Gilbert's sidekick. Extremely underrated)
19- Glen Drover (Also extremely underrated, listen to Burnt Ice, Washington is Next, etc.)
20- Eric Johnson.
I think its clear that you are very into shred, and your list represents some superb technicians, and awesome players, but there is more to guitar than a single style, and people like David Gilmour aren't pretending to be shredders, they are something very different, and its not really fair to either genre to compare them and say one is better than the other in shred terms.
For me, the best and only criteria is how much a guitarists playing moves me emotionally, whether its by playing 100 notes perfectly accurately, or by picking 5 perfect notes and playing them in a specific way - the first is Steve Vai, the second is Dave Gilmour, and I love them both but for completely different reasons.
Posted by: The Uncreator Nov 24 2007, 04:15 PM
All these lists in the end......Are pointless
Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Nov 24 2007, 04:26 PM
Yes, I agree - but it passes the time
Posted by: Xranthoius Nov 24 2007, 04:44 PM
1. Xranthoius
2. Yngwie
3. Satriani
4. Slash
5. Kirk Hammet
my top 5
Posted by: Tomotoms Nov 24 2007, 10:19 PM
<This post has been deleted because I have changed my mind too many times since>
Posted by: Owen Nov 24 2007, 11:30 PM
Why pass time when you could play guitar
Posted by: The Uncreator Nov 25 2007, 01:40 AM
Deadly Logic I Must Say
Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Nov 25 2007, 02:52 AM
Ah yes, but you assume I have that option
In reality my guitars are all packed away and I have no room to unpack them ... In any case, on a regular night I read the forum in between practice chunks so I can do both
Posted by: Spiderusalem Nov 25 2007, 02:59 AM
I dont know what you guys are talking about. I spend much more time listening to and reading about people who are better much better at guitar than me, then actually playing =P hence people like me need lists like this.
Posted by: LwShieN Nov 25 2007, 03:22 AM
In the end ... its hard to judge who is a better player then the other etc...Depends on the type of music you are into and the style you prefer ..
But Jimi Hendrix , even though i don't like him that much deserves the number one spot , he was the pioneer and without him to satriani and vai ...
All were inspired by him! ...though new guitarist will surpass pioneers in emotional playing and skill and what not , but pioneer , being the first to do something is never going to be surpass ..
And yes after looking at this list , lets go play guitar instead ..
Posted by: PacmanProductions Nov 25 2007, 04:32 AM
hey, i thought that emotion, passion, and feeling were the attributes....
Posted by: Robin Nov 26 2007, 01:29 AM
I dont know if John Mayer is mentioned already, but damn. He is amazing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sPmTgPvx28 damn just check this out.
Posted by: Unleash-The-Shred Nov 26 2007, 01:32 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sPmTgPvx28 damn just check this out.
John is a great guitar player, but nobody realizes this because he doesn't really show it in most of his songs.
Posted by: Spiderusalem Nov 27 2007, 11:05 PM
Ok, so heres whats going down
I've been kind of distracted for the past two weeks due to the four F's (Family, Food, Friends, F<censored>) but now I'm really, really back, lol.
I'm in the process of organizing all the information, which I thought I'd have a lot more of by now. speaking of which, I'd like to thank;
Animosity
spdalton
Zephyr
Robin
Fsgdjv
The Uncreator
shredmandan
Smikey
mattacuk
Iluha
WillH
Juan M. Valero
tonymiro
jeff
Slash91
Proman1
Arrival
Unleash-The-Shred
shellshock1911
62-Rick
For your contributions. In a perfect world, I would send you all fruitbaskets filled with D'Addario strings and guitar picks made from dinosaur bones, but for now you'll have to settle for my thanks.
But we're not done! I'm gonna keep this thread open for one more week for any more lists and whatnot, and then we'll get to actually putting this thing together.
Posted by: rokchik Nov 27 2007, 11:07 PM
My list is coming...it's almost in it's final draft. Hard to do man, so many greats to pick from but I should have it done by tomorrow....hopefully
Posted by: Spiderusalem Nov 27 2007, 11:08 PM
take your time, you have a week.
Posted by: botoxfox Nov 27 2007, 11:11 PM
I guess I'll be puttting up a list soon too...
Posted by: rokchik Dec 3 2007, 02:35 PM
Here is my list...finally. It was tough but I tried to be very unbias and not just look at my favourites. My list is a bit bluesy but I think I hit on a few other genres as well. I decided to list them alphabetically by last name just to be fair. For me each of these guitarist are unnique in their own way so to say one is better then the other is unfair. Normally I'd start this list with Jimi but that is just my opinion however I figured alphabetical was just easier as all could be number 1.
Chet Atkins
Jeff Beck
Eric Clapton
Tommy Emmanuel
David Gilmor
Buddy Guy
Jimi Hendrix
Eric Johnson
Robert Johnson
B.B. King
Yngwie Malmsteen
Brian May
Jimmy Page
Les Paul
Randy Rhodes
Steve Vai
Eddie Van Halen
Stevie Ray Vaughn
T-Bone Walker
Muddy Waters
Posted by: botoxfox Dec 3 2007, 02:56 PM
lalalalalala
Posted by: -orb- Dec 4 2007, 02:45 AM
#1: Alexi Laiho.
Done
:P
Posted by: VinceG Dec 4 2007, 02:47 AM
Wow, I wonder when is this thing going to be done.
Posted by: Fsgdjv Dec 16 2007, 11:49 PM
How's it going with the list?
Posted by: RIP Dime Dec 17 2007, 10:23 AM
I agree, everyone has their own personal favorites and opinions, and there are so many guitarists that make great music I'd rather listen it their music and enjoy it for what it is, rather than think "Wow, that was a great solo, but Jimmy Page was doing solos before this guy was born and influenced him so he must be better!", but I guess it's human nature.
Posted by: Canis Mar 25 2008, 07:55 PM
I only looked though the first two pages of lists before I noticed; No one even mentioned Gary Moore there O_o
I don't really have many favourites, but here's my short list of those guitarists that really influence me:
1: Gary Moore
2: Luca Turilli
3: Gary Moore
4: Gary Moore
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hapJe1qeVZs
Gary Moore - The Loner
Best ten minutes of my life =)
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