Amp Sims: What's The Best For You? |
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Amp Sims: What's The Best For You? |
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Oct 10 2018, 03:33 PM |
It's awesome to see how many amp sim options we can find nowadays. The most important brands are releasing different versions of their products so I can suspect that each of us can find a good option.
The most relevant brands are Fractal, Kemper, Line 6, Headrush, Atomic, Positive Grid, Mooer, and there are also many plug in options like Amplitube, Guitar Rig, Revalver, and many others. Each of those brands are offering different configurations and devices. Most of them provide convincing tones so I feel that the decision is more related to what you really need, and how much you can pay. So my questions are: - Are you using any Amp Sim as your main rig? Which one? - Are you happy with it? - Which other one do you think that it's perfect for you? - Is there anything that you can't find in the market and that you think you are needing? -------------------- My lessons
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Oct 11 2018, 02:36 PM |
Killer post Todd! Thanks for sharing the videos!
Do you preffer those plug ins over Eleven? -------------------- My lessons
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Oct 12 2018, 04:40 PM |
So my questions are: - Are you using any Amp Sim as your main rig? Which one? - Are you happy with it? - Which other one do you think that it's perfect for you? - Is there anything that you can't find in the market and that you think you are needing? I've been lucky enough to own many of the modelers you listed, but my favorite is still the AxeFX. Fractal Audio single-handedly created the high end modeler market when they came out with the AxeFX. Before that, everybody assumed guitarists wouldn't pay more than $500 for a modeler, and that stifled attempts to produce really good modelers, since it wasn't possible to make one for that price. When they came out with the AxeFX, Fractal showed there is a market for high-end modelers. Not a big market, but big enough to justify somebody making products in that range. Personally, I prefer the sound of the AxeFX. But we've reached the point where youtube comparison videos are completely useless. When somebody posts a video comparing high end modelers to each other or to a tube amp, any difference you hear is simply due to one of the modelers being tweaked differently than the other. As great as the AxeFX sounds though, it's all the other things that really set it apart: effects quality, routing flexibility, I/O options, the editor app, remote control, etc. As much as I like my AxeFX, I still enjoy playing through my Soldano amp. The fact is there is more to getting a satisfying tone than what you hear. There are psychological factors as well. For example, my mixes always sound better when my studio is lit by candlelight . By the same token, there is something deeply rewarding about playing a guitar that is connected to glowing vacuum tubes. While I can use the AxeFX for re-amping, if I know I'll be re-amping a track, I'll use a plugin since that's easier. My favorite is Helix Native. It doesn't sound quite as good as the AxeFX and latency is always a problem with plugins. Even with my 6 core MacPro, my songs are complex enough that it's difficult to get the latency when recording down to something I'm happy with. As far as what I'd like to see in the future, I think we've already reached the point where high end amp modelers can successfully emulate tube amps. It's time to reach for another goal. Amp modelers should now aspire to produce tones that sound good but go beyond what can be done with a tube amp. I use my AxeFX to generate speaker impedance resonances that don't exist in any amps in the real world. It's time to look beyond merely emulating tube amps. -------------------- Cyber-industrial music and video animations:
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Oct 12 2018, 05:12 PM |
... Good points. As something I never noticed, no one has done a loudness compensated eq yet. |
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Oct 12 2018, 08:44 PM |
Good points. As something I never noticed, no one has done a loudness compensated eq yet. I don't recall seeing that either. But I haven't had good luck with loudness compensated eq's. In my experience, the proper amount of compensation depends too much on the input. -------------------- Cyber-industrial music and video animations:
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Oct 13 2018, 03:54 PM |
It's time to look beyond merely emulating tube amps. I'm really curious about the future. What are your thoughts about the future? The current issue was that hardware wasn't powerfull enough but that has been solved with Fractal III so I wonder what are the next moves... I wonder if they will move to an Ipad full control as it happened with P.A. consoles. Maybe in the future they just provide some kind of box with inputs and outputs and everything is controller by wifi with Ipad and cellphone. -------------------- My lessons
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Oct 16 2018, 07:04 PM |
Yngwie has something to say about this...
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Oct 17 2018, 08:11 AM |
My Axe Fx is still going strong 10 years later (I can't believe it's been that long!) The convenience and versatility are the biggest plus points.
I do still want a decent pedal platform amp and pedal board, for some reason even though I don't have any need for one whatsoever. -------------------- My SoundCloud
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Oct 17 2018, 02:20 PM |
Imagine any one of the guitar legends, will play a song he released 20-30 years ago. Pretty much everything built in that era are working or serviceable so he-can get "that" sound to stage even though he needs a few roadies to carry the stuff But now imagine that gear was a phone made 30 years ago The way I see it, with each leap of technology follows the argument of authenticity. My amp and processor are still working after 20 years so I have a trust on equipment specially made for guitar, probably the most curious here on plug-in/vsti development (even beta-tested for companies at one point) but can't guarantee I'll use any software released today for the next 3 years. Hehehe that's so funny. They won¿t be able to do some kind of revival concert, but most of the bands and musicians update their sounds. The Rolling Stones don't sound like in the 60's anymore, and neither Paul MacCartney, and in the case they would want, they have lots of tools to do it nowadays.. don't you think so? -------------------- My lessons
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Oct 18 2018, 08:17 PM |
Here is a guy using his iphone and BIAS to do a pretty darn good demo of various tones he's getting. Has a pricey orange amp right behind him.
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