Mk Out Of Tune
micpon
Jun 7 2009, 09:36 PM
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Hi Muris,
I´ve had some problem with my MK getting out of tune. When I set higher spring tension, the bridge slope backwards the guitar keep in tune. They say that the bridge have to be parallel with the guitarbody?
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Michael

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Muris Varajic
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QUOTE (micpon @ Jun 7 2009, 10:36 PM) *
Hi Muris,
I´ve had some problem with my MK getting out of tune. When I set higher spring tension, the bridge slope backwards the guitar keep in tune. They say that the bridge have to be parallel with the guitarbody?
Regards,
Michael


Was it floating bridge?
I believe it was.
Well, some general rule is that bridge should be parallel to the body or at least close to that.
So what you need to do is to find perfect match between string gauge and spring tension.
I'm sure you can find more discussion about that in certain forums,
maybe even Schaller forum, just guessing.
Lately I haven't had much work in that area since I have non-floating bridge on my custom.
But as far as I can remember it's about finding perfect match
between strings and springs. smile.gif

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Jun 8 2009, 12:29 AM
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If you have no previous experience in setting up a floyd rose tremolo then better take your custom guitar to a pro for a setup, it would be a great loss if you damage your guitar while figuring out how to set it up!

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Jun 8 2009, 12:45 AM
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I agree with Zakk here,
take it to a luthier or guitar tech if you don't have enough experience with this!
Stay safe tho, it's just a matter of FR, springs etc,
it has nothing to do with your guitar in general. smile.gif

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I recently bought my first guitar with a floating bridge. It was off a little when I got it home and I then I totally screwed it up. I did manage to get it figured out and this article, Set-up of a Floyd Rose or Floyd-Rose-Type Trem helped me do it. Give it a try it's not too tough.



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Lately I haven't had much work in that area since I have non-floating bridge on my custom.
But as far as I can remember it's about finding perfect match
between strings and springs


I though your custom had a Flyod style floating tremlo. blink.gif What type of bridge is on there? It is a double locking system right?

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Jun 8 2009, 02:09 AM
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Muris has a floyd but no cavity carved out beneath it, so he can only push the trem down and not upwards...

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QUOTE (ZakkWylde @ Jun 8 2009, 03:09 AM) *
Muris has a floyd but no cavity carved out beneath it, so he can only push the trem down and not upwards...


Yeah, that would be the one, it has double locking and everything
but can't go up. smile.gif

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micpon
Jun 14 2009, 03:56 PM
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Hi again,

so I have a problem to keep the guitar in tune. When I "dive" it gets immediately out of tune. I found out that the cut-out for the bridge are not symmetric. The bridge on the whammy bar side are too tight and dont go free. What to do? Buy a Temol-No and lock it?

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Muris Varajic
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Well yeah, hole on the back isn't simetrical because the bridge ain't simetrical as well
and Mirza wanted to keep line from the edges.
Ofc that has nothing to do with your problem,
I tried the guitar, I did all wild things with bar and everything was ok.
I think you should take it to luthier for fine tuning tho,
you probably did something wrong when you changed spring tension, not sure...

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Man, floating trems make me shudder, one false move and your guitar is unuseable!

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From the picture it seems as if the bridge isn't pushing against the screw on the right side properly (opposite to the tremolo cavity). Maybe that little carved-out sharp edge is leaning against the top of the screw where the screw is wider, or somehow it stuck there.

A guitar tech will most probably know how to fix this! smile.gif

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I went to a luthier. The problem is solved. The hold of the tremoloarm(inside the body) was too tight against the wood. I installed a Tremol-No, a device for floating tremolos. You can block the tremolo or use the function dive-only or just fully floating. I prefer the dive-only function, it´s easier to keep the guitar in tune. http://www.tremol-no.com/

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Muris Varajic
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QUOTE (micpon @ Jun 30 2009, 07:11 PM) *
I went to a luthier. The problem is solved. The hold of the tremoloarm(inside the body) was too tight against the wood. I installed a Tremol-No, a device for floating tremolos. You can block the tremolo or use the function dive-only or just fully floating. I prefer the dive-only function, it´s easier to keep the guitar in tune. http://www.tremol-no.com/


Well yeah, you wanted floating, I use dive only. smile.gif

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It´s a fantastic guitar no doubt about that.

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Muris Varajic
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It´s a fantastic guitar no doubt about that.


Glad to hear! smile.gif

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