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GMC Forum _ Practicing (Muris) _ Style Of Steve Lukather Lesson
Posted by: Smells Nov 27 2007, 01:01 AM
Hi Muris!
Thought I`d try something a little bit different for me, something melodic 
well heres my shot at the style of Steve Lukather, i`ll keep practicing it, one of the little runs isnt clean enough yet, but really enjoyable lesson, def something different for me to try 
thanks
Chris
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Posted by: coffeeman Nov 27 2007, 01:36 AM
whats your first name ? Muris?
Awesome smells!
Posted by: JVM Nov 27 2007, 01:39 AM
TBH, I'm not crazy about the tone you used here but otherwise everything - recording, playing - was excellent.
Posted by: Smells Nov 27 2007, 01:43 AM
Awesome smells!
If I was half the player Muris is I`d be a very happy bunny
but thanksme either m8, I hate this thing I`m playing through, its either too trebly/mid or has no tone at all, looking forward to crimbo when I get me podxt
thanks
Posted by: jean-mi Dec 1 2007, 06:57 PM
Muris,
I don't like this lesson....
but 
I LOVE it !!!!
This backtrack is very interresting....
I run it in loop for a lot of time, playing some infinite variations
Thanks a lot Muris
more, more, please.... ?
Posted by: shredmandan Dec 1 2007, 07:11 PM
Man that was awesome Smells ! 
Posted by: Iluha Dec 1 2007, 09:16 PM
Great job man, you play it better than me that's for sure.
only problematic part is that small run after the pentatonic scale run, but that's easy to fix 
again, great job man.
Posted by: Smells Dec 1 2007, 11:02 PM
thanks shred m8
only problematic part is that small run after the pentatonic scale run, but that's easy to fix
again, great job man.
yea, thats the run I said in my post I wasnt happy with, its much better now, I ought to re record it really, thanks m8
Posted by: stratman33 Dec 2 2007, 01:29 AM
wow!!that was awesome, way better than me!
Posted by: Muris Dec 3 2007, 12:37 AM
Great job once more Chris!!!!!!
Maybe few small details to work on rhythmic wise,that's all.
Thanks for your efforts,appreciate it,well done!!!
Posted by: Smells Dec 3 2007, 12:39 AM
Hey! thanks Muris, and welcome back
Posted by: Muris Dec 3 2007, 01:08 AM
Thanks mate,good to be here again for sure.
Posted by: david80 Dec 17 2007, 12:38 PM
good job smell and great tone.
This song is not easy ...(I learn it)
Posted by: Smells Dec 17 2007, 12:50 PM
good job smell and great tone.This song is not easy ...(I learn it)
thanks m8
No its not easy at all, Muris makes it look so smooth and simple to play, I love playing this tho, once I`m warmed up I always play it through 2 or 3 times, I wish it was longer
Posted by: Muris Dec 17 2007, 03:33 PM
It just needs practicing like everything else
Would love to see video of it tho
Posted by: Smells Dec 17 2007, 03:49 PM
I`ll do one for you of it, I did do it at the time of the above recording but it came out way too dark and I just looked like a silhouette so I`ll do it again, no worries
Posted by: Muris Dec 17 2007, 03:52 PM
Thanks,appreciate it!!
Posted by: david80 Dec 17 2007, 08:06 PM
why not.
I still work little the song, and I post a video.
sorry,my english is very bad...I write with Reverso...lol
Posted by: Muris Dec 17 2007, 08:08 PM
why not.I still work little the song, and I post a video.
sorry,my english is very bad...I write with Reverso...lolNo worries,you're not the only one
Posted by: jean-mi Dec 17 2007, 08:32 PM
I still work it, playing in G minor sound very nice
it's not still good as you can hear with the attached file. After hearing lot of finger variations, I prefered not taping but playing it normaly, it sound better to my heart.... and sorry, but i play it with some freedom in the second part 
thanks murris !!!! I'm apreciating a lot your lessons, and your feeling...
of course you can bring your criticism
(and sorry for my poor english writing toooooooo)
Posted by: Smells Dec 17 2007, 09:00 PM
Well here ya go, you asked for it lol
I never really intended to do this lesson to be honest, but I loved it so much that I had to! I love just playing it over and over, I really wish it was longer.
ps. sorry about the little titles etc, I`ve discovered Windows Movie Maker recently and was playing
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Posted by: Muris Dec 17 2007, 09:20 PM
Great mate!!!
Love the title,sound,axe,small timing issue but effort is too appreciated here!!
Posted by: Smells Dec 17 2007, 09:23 PM
Love the title,sound,axe,small timing issue but effort is too appreciated here!!
Thanks m8
That little single string run on the top E is quite tricky imo for the timing, just a question, it could be played the same accross the E & B string (if you know what I mean) just wondered why you chose to do it on a single string, just curious
Posted by: Muris Dec 17 2007, 09:26 PM
That little single string run on the top E is quite tricky imo for the timing, just a question, it could be played the same accross the E & B string (if you know what I mean) just wondered why you chose to do it on a single string, just curious
I could be of course,it's just the way how Luke would play it.
PLUS it's good exercise for accuracy involving scale on one string,timing,picking etc
Posted by: Smells Dec 17 2007, 09:34 PM
PLUS it's good exercise for accuracy involving scale on one string,timing,picking etc
yea def good exercise, I like it coz I`d normally always opt for the simpler of the two so this has forced me to do something a little different to the norm for me.
Just wondered, thanks
Be great when you see me playing my new axe next year
Posted by: Muris Dec 17 2007, 09:36 PM
Just wondered, thanks
Yeah,it's always good to try different approaches,might come in handy
Just wondered, thanks
Be great when you see me playing my new axe next year
Ohhh yeah
I spoke with Mirza yesterday tho,he said guitar is coming along quite nicely.
Posted by: Smells Dec 17 2007, 09:41 PM
Ohhh yeah
I spoke with Mirza yesterday tho,he said guitar is coming along quite nicely.
Woohooooo!
trying not to think about it too much lol
Posted by: Muris Dec 17 2007, 09:43 PM
trying not to think about it too much lol Tell me,I almost ended my summer vacation few days earlier
in trying to get to my new custom
Posted by: leedbreak Dec 18 2007, 09:52 PM
Hey Smells,
Awsome job there
Posted by: Smells Dec 18 2007, 09:53 PM
Awsome job there
Cheers Jason
Posted by: david80 Dec 19 2007, 05:38 PM
good job smell.
Even some days and I shall post one.
Posted by: david80 Dec 19 2007, 05:58 PM
Jean-mi
C'est un bon début...On reconnait le thème.Fait juste attention à la mise en place,même si tu improvises.
Cale toi sur le BT et ça sera bon.
Posted by: Muris Dec 19 2007, 06:13 PM
C'est un bon début...On reconnait le thème.Fait juste attention à la mise en place,même si tu improvises.
Cale toi sur le BT et ça sera bon.
Japanese please?
Posted by: JVM Dec 19 2007, 06:17 PM
Hey jean-mi I thought it sounded very good, you put your own spin on it and it sounds unique to muris's version! Cool!
And smells I liked the video too
Posted by: david80 Dec 19 2007, 08:06 PM
Japanese please?
lolIn english
Jean-mi
It is the good beginning... We re-know the subject. Paid just attention to the implementation, even if you improvise.
Hold you on the BT and that will be good.
Posted by: Muris Dec 19 2007, 08:11 PM
lolIn english
Jean-mi
It is the good beginning... We re-know the subject. Paid just attention to the implementation, even if you improvise.
Hold you on the BT and that will be good.
Thanks
Truth is,I used to learn french in school,4 years in elementary AND 4 years in high school,
pure looser I am, must admit
Posted by: jean-mi Dec 20 2007, 09:43 AM
@david80
okadisacibiendimessiimessii,
Sayonnara
(japanese version of "thank you")
Merci
Posted by: Muris Dec 20 2007, 11:59 AM
okadisacibiendimessiimessii,
Sayonnara
(japanese version of "thank you")
Merci
Good to know,thanks
Posted by: preownedguitar Dec 20 2007, 07:47 PM
I just started this one last night so go easy on me. But I really like the feel on this one. Theres a couple out of pitch bends and some hits and misses during the speed runs. But this one really gives my hands a workout so Im starting to get used to it but still need lots of practice. Thanks for the awesome lesson Muris.
Posted by: Muris Dec 21 2007, 12:05 AM
Glad you like the lesson too and thanks for effort.
It needs more practice,that's sure and so I'm gonna recommend
you to practice it with slower backing first.
And main reason is because I've noticed that you play most of the licks
a bit before it's original place,like you're in some king of a hurry or som.
Take it slow,focus yourself on timing,make bends more clear and practice hard,
result will be there,no worries.
Posted by: preownedguitar Dec 21 2007, 06:02 AM
Definitely right on with the hurrying thing. I have a tend to do that sometimes. Needs more practice and to play it slowly first for sure. That was just me trying to throw something together before I had to go to work and was the first take. But I wanted to post something. Well, back to practicing.
Posted by: Muris Dec 21 2007, 10:24 AM
Great,wish you luck with practicing and let me know how it goes!!
Posted by: david80 Dec 21 2007, 07:33 PM
preownedguitar
Thank's for participate in this lesson.
Work even there and that will be good.
Good job.
I post my video.
Measure 7, I do not manage to play just... Thus I played tap
I am again going to work her.
Thank's Muris for this lesson....Great mélody...and feeling.
Murislesson.wmv ( 3.3MB )
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Posted by: Muris Dec 21 2007, 09:17 PM
Ahh,I see some cheating here
Joking of course,adding note on bend with tap instead of pinky isn't bad thing at all,
same as using hammer-on instead instead of bending,that's your approach
and nothing wrong there.
But same issue as with other members,kind of hurry in playing
which leads to loosing of timing a bit.
Take it slow,you're doing fine by now,thanks for effort,well appreciated!!
Posted by: david80 Dec 21 2007, 09:29 PM
Thank you very much for your advice...
I am going to work any ca.
Posted by: Muris Dec 21 2007, 09:32 PM
I am going to work any ca.
You're more than welcome
Posted by: Gilmore Dec 21 2007, 09:35 PM
Great job guys
I´ve been working on this one too, and it´s going pretty well. But I would like to be able to record my playing over the backing tracks so I can hear what could be better. How do you guys manage to record the bacing track?
Posted by: Muris Dec 21 2007, 09:39 PM
I would have to ask you to deal this issue with members via PM,
use/download of backings is sort of prohibited at the moment.
Thanks in advance
Posted by: coffeeman Dec 21 2007, 09:42 PM
I´ve been working on this one too, and it´s going pretty well. But I would like to be able to record my playing over the backing tracks so I can hear what could be better. How do you guys manage to record the bacing track?
Gilmore,
What I do is that I record a video using the backing track, I think its better becuase the instructor can also watch what you're playing and can give you a better advice. I've done that several times and it has been very helpful for me.
Bye.
Posted by: preownedguitar Dec 27 2007, 09:18 AM
Hey Muris,
Been practicing with what little time I can get off of work, hopefully you will hear some improvement from my first attempt cause I can hear/feel it with my hands. Some muffled notes and others but it sounded okay to me.
Posted by: Muris Dec 29 2007, 09:47 PM
Thanks for efforts!!
Timing is bit better but still needs some practicing
which is what we all love to do,to practice.
And be careful while making bends,try to hit wanted note correctly,
sometimes it's bit low or too high imho.
Taps on the bend are missed notes,try to fix that too,
rest of it is going on the right track,keep it up!!
Posted by: preownedguitar Dec 30 2007, 06:45 AM
Hey Muris,
Thanks for the criticing. Sometimes it's hard to hear the specific parts to focus on. I checked on the bends of the notes and you were right. Also with taps on the bend, I was over exaggerating the bend. I'll keep practicing and keep you posted.
Posted by: Muris Dec 30 2007, 11:48 AM
Ok
I'm really glad that you're taking my positive criticism in the right way,keep it up!!
Posted by: Crazyfret Dec 31 2007, 07:01 PM
Hiya Muris,
Started learning the Steve Lukather solo from you lesson and loving it! Its the sort of stuff I want to play
Just a couple of questions from playing the opening section;
Its prob down to more practice but I seem to have trouble holding enough sustain for the tapped bends on the 3rd string (G). Any tips?
Also on a theoretical point I've noticed some chromaic runs (3 to 4 notes) in places are these what you call passing notes? Cause some appear out of key but because you don't linger on them it sounds ok? Or because of the chord change you are playing a note from that chord?
No doubt there will be more questions as I work through it!!
Thanks
Posted by: Wallimann Dec 31 2007, 08:46 PM
Good job!
This is one of my favourite lesson BTW. Excellent!
Started learning the Steve Lukather solo from you lesson and loving it! Its the sort of stuff I want to play
Just a couple of questions from playing the opening section;
Its prob down to more practice but I seem to have trouble holding enough sustain for the tapped bends on the 3rd string (G). Any tips?
Also on a theoretical point I've noticed some chromaic runs (3 to 4 notes) in places are these what you call passing notes? Cause some appear out of key but because you don't linger on them it sounds ok? Or because of the chord change you are playing a note from that chord?
No doubt there will be more questions as I work through it!!
Thanks
Posted by: Muris Jan 1 2008, 05:13 AM
This is one of my favourite lesson BTW. Excellent!
Thanks David
Hi Crazyfret.
About sustain on tapped bends,maybe to add bit more gain/drive?
Or maybe it needs some practicing.
And those chromatic runs,per example frets 16,15,14 and 13 on high E over Fm chord.
If you take a look at the notes,chord AND scale played there (which is Eb major)
you'll see that passing note is 14th fret,note F# or Gb.
You said well,I'm not resting on it and notes around it are fine so it sounds ok.
Posted by: Crazyfret Jan 1 2008, 06:46 PM
About sustain on tapped bends,maybe to add bit more gain/drive?
Or maybe it needs some practicing.
And those chromatic runs,per example frets 16,15,14 and 13 on high E over Fm chord.
If you take a look at the notes,chord AND scale played there (which is Eb major)
you'll see that passing note is 14th fret,note F# or Gb.
You said well,I'm not resting on it and notes around it are fine so it sounds ok.
Thanks Muris for the prompt reply
I see what you are getting at with the chromatic runs. I need to sit down and look at the relationship between the scale and the chord. Its something I need to develop, cause I don't know every scale or chord build up note for note off the top of my head
. Thanks again
Posted by: Crazyfret Jan 1 2008, 08:29 PM
Ok here's is where I've got up to so far. I've played upto the 8th bar just before the tricky fast run down and up the scale. I've still to get the timing right on that before I record it with the backing.
My tapped bends isn't great yet as you'll hear! 
I wanna get this one right cause I'm sure it will help in all areas of my playing. I think for approx 4 hours practicing spread over 2 days I've not done too bad, (I think).
Posted by: Muris Jan 2 2008, 12:10 AM
Not bad take,not at all!!
But first of all you must have proper sound to play this kind of stuff
and to get right "feel" for it.
That means you really need to add more drive to your sound,
the way it is atm it sounds like overdriven clean
and you need a massive distortion for it.
Posted by: Crazyfret Jan 2 2008, 10:07 AM
But first of all you must have proper sound to play this kind of stuff
and to get right "feel" for it.
That means you really need to add more drive to your sound,
the way it is atm it sounds like overdriven clean
and you need a massive distortion for it.
Hey Muris,
Thanks for your comments, you're too kind
I see what you mean about the sound I've not quite sorted out what it sounds like through my amp speaker and how its sounds when I record to my pc.
My set up is prob a bit weird, I own a Marshall MG50DFX amp from which I take the feed from the headphone socket to my pc, (its how I am able to play over the backing track cause I take a cable from the speaker output from the pc into the back of the amp cd input)!!
Still waiting on delivery of my Podxt!! Should simplify things
Thanks again
Posted by: Smells Jan 2 2008, 02:38 PM
I`ve got an excellent patch for the POD that`ll do for this lesson a treat mate when you get it
The vid that I posted earlier was using my old gear, I should re record it with the PODXT, sounds fantastic!
Posted by: Crazyfret Jan 2 2008, 03:01 PM
The vid that I posted earlier was using my old gear, I should re record it with the PODXT, sounds fantastic!
Cheers Smells thanks
. Btw your take on this lesson is excellent despite your 'old' gear.(Had to ring up costomer services earlier to see if it had been sent. Apparently they have misplaced the order!!!
. Though the guy on the phone said he'll get it sorted and should be with me by next Monday )
Posted by: Smells Jan 2 2008, 03:03 PM
No probs, your gunna love the POD ..... and thanks its a great piece, I love playing it
Posted by: Muris Jan 2 2008, 07:34 PM
Thanks again
Ahh,I'm sure Pod will make things a lot easier
We have many Pod users here,Smells as well
,don't forget to contact them when you get your own Pod,
they'll share some nice presets with you
Posted by: Smells Jan 2 2008, 07:46 PM
they'll share some nice presets with you
Be sure to check out the "new" sub forum in the gear section too
should get a whole heap of presets in there soon
Posted by: jacmoe Jan 2 2008, 07:50 PM
I can't find it..
My guess is that it is visible only to moderators atm.
Posted by: jean-mi Jan 2 2008, 07:50 PM
Oooo, so, Smells you are a Pod user ? I like your sound a lot (as in gilmour collab for example).... what is the sound you use my dear ? any patch to download ?
Posted by: Muris Jan 2 2008, 07:51 PM
GRRRR This isn't thread about Pod patches
Posted by: Smells Jan 2 2008, 08:00 PM
GRRRR This isn't thread about Pod patches whoops, sozzles Muris
Jean-mi: I only got the PODXTL for christmas, so I didnt use it on that collab, I`m using it in Muntahuntas rock/metal collab, I`m sure the new sub forum will be visible soon, and I`ll put some presets in there, they are close to my "old" sound but better imo.
Back to topic: Steve Lukather lesson is fantastic keep em comin
*cough* soz Muris
Posted by: Muris Jan 2 2008, 08:07 PM
*cough* soz Muris
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