Solo Contruction, Advice on improv soloing |
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Jul 27 2011, 02:35 PM
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Hi Narzsa.. this is a very valid point that you raise. I believe that I developed this by taking my favourite runs and experimenting with playing them over backing tracks. Also, I used to use other guitarists as an inspiration.. how did they put runs into a solo ? Where ? Half way through a bar ? At the beginning of a bar ?
A lot of it is about rhythm and phrasing, not technique. Joe Satriani inspired me a lot with the way he would combine melodies with fast runs up or down the neck. A run would usually lead from one strong phrase to another, like a bridge between notes. Learning common shapes and runs is the best way to go. 3 note per string shapes are popular because they are so useful for navigating around the neck but you have to be careful otherwise they sound too much like an exercise. I did a series on legato that uses 3 note per string shapes and I use different timings. This lesson shows you how I put different licks together, combined with slower phrases https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Bens-Land-Of-Legato-5/ The Zakk Wylde pentatonic licks that usually cover 2 strings are also popular because they can be played in a fast 16th note way.. like 1,2,3,4 - 1,2,3,4.. https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Killer...kk-Wylde-Style/ The key is to understand how you can break down timing. If you're playing over a certain beat then there are different note values that you can use. You could use 16th notes, triplets etc... These examples may be quite hard but it's just to show you the different ways of putting licks over a backing.. I made this one to demonstrate how to use different note lengths to good effect. https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Set-The-Pace/ So, the basic idea is learn some patterns & licks that you can use.. and then work out how you can vary the timing of these patterns. When you encounter a different backing, you'll know what you can get away with and what you can't. It takes time but the only way to do it is just do it !! 
This post has been edited by Ben Higgins: Jul 27 2011, 02:36 PM |
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Jul 27 2011, 03:56 PM
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Do you know the 3 notes per string scale positions?
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Jul 27 2011, 04:27 PM
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QUOTE (Narzsa @ Jul 27 2011, 12:21 PM)  Hi Gab, Yes, i know all them but i will admit i could do with strengthening them. Presently i do have to think about them, rather than instinctually know sometimes so thats a clear sign i think that i need some more practice moving about them Ah ok! this positions helped me a lot to add fast licks to my playing... here I found some info about this scale (if you need to refresh it) https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...showtopic=16647 https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...showtopic=16648 -------------------- My lessons
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Jul 27 2011, 04:31 PM
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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Jul 27 2011, 04:27 PM) Ah ok! this positions helped me a lot to add fast licks to my playing... here I found some info about this scale (if you need to refresh it) https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...showtopic=16647 https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...showtopic=16648 Cheers Gab, Every little helps and recognising where notes repeat/pasterns is definitely of use for me to go over -------------------- Current Setup:
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Jul 27 2011, 04:35 PM
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QUOTE (Narzsa @ Jul 27 2011, 12:31 PM) Cheers Gab, Every little helps and recognising where notes repeat/pasterns is definitely of use for me to go over Have you learnt some solos in the style that you like? I think that learning solos and studying how the players combine phrasing with shredding will guide you a bit more with this... if you've already done it, let me know what solo/s you've learnt... -------------------- My lessons
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Jul 27 2011, 04:56 PM
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In the above video there's an approach by Alexi Laiho from Children of Bodom. Usually a good idea is to play the backing track over and over and try out different things I personally find useful to write a "normal" solo and then make variations on it so that it doesn't sound "normal" -------------------- Visit my:
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Jul 28 2011, 10:11 AM
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You can construct the solo with any knowledge that you have, pentatonic, diatonic scales, lick library etc.. It's just the matter of following the harmony properly, by choosing the strong notes (notes within chords or riffs). When you learn the patterns, you have to be able to learn the notes, and where they are on the neck.
For example, playing an A powerchord, or A-based riff can spawn various melodies around A and E notes, since those two notes are within the powerchord being played, so it would be good to start & end your phrases on those two notes. You could start with a lick that starts on A, do a repetitive motion on the simplified Am arpeggio, and do a 3nps run after that that ends on the E. That would be an example of a good harmonic followup of the lead part. -------------------- - Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE
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Jul 28 2011, 07:21 PM
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Try playing some arpeggios of the chords being played, that can often sound melodic and inspiring. You can also try to sing the solo as well, and try to transcribe the good parts of what you come up. Singing is more natural, and creates a vocal-like lead that is more memorable.
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