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Posted by: RIP Dime Mar 20 2008, 06:31 AM

I think I sometimes rush through lessons because there are so many cool ones I want to try out. So now I decided to focus my practicing on one lesson at a time, till I got the lesson down then move on.
My question is: How well do you think we should know the lesson before moving on to another one?
Like should I be able to play through the whole thing once with no mistakes? Or maybe 2 or 3 times? Or should I practice the lesson till I can totally nail the tune a couple times in a row?
What do you guys think?
Or fellow students, at what point do you know you are ready to move on to another lesson?

Posted by: Trond Vold Mar 20 2008, 07:10 AM

Well, sometimes i think it's not all that important to be able to play through it perfectly. In even the most difficult lessons you can still pick up some helpfull moves/techniques/theory advice even if your not able to play it all.

But if the lesson is something that's in your range of playing ability, then i think you should try to nail it before moving on.

Posted by: TortillaShred Mar 20 2008, 07:25 AM

Well, what I usually do is get a nice set of bookmarked-lessons and then work on them separately, just as you do... I mean, I don't focus on one until I nail it, but what I never do is say "OK, I can play it a couple of times, so I'll move on to another one". I think even when you get to play a lesson with no mistakes two times, if you fail in the third one, you should still work very hard so that what you learn is not a "oh God, I got it right" but a "I always get it right... It's part of my natural playing" rolleyes.gif .

Posted by: superize Mar 20 2008, 07:29 AM

I have i big problem.... I cant just focus on one lesson at the time. I go around playing lesson after lesson untill i get bored to play it and i hardly ever learn one full lesson at full speed

Posted by: lavendell Mar 20 2008, 08:38 AM

QUOTE (Trond Vold @ Mar 20 2008, 07:10 AM) *
Well, sometimes i think it's not all that important to be able to play through it perfectly. In even the most difficult lessons you can still pick up some helpfull moves/techniques/theory advice even if your not able to play it all.

But if the lesson is something that's in your range of playing ability, then i think you should try to nail it before moving on.

+1

Posted by: RIP Dime Mar 20 2008, 08:53 AM

Thanks guys, I think I'll just practice lessons within my playing ability till it feels natural, and I'll practice improvising using the ideas from the lesson.

Posted by: Marcus Siepen Mar 20 2008, 09:12 AM

QUOTE (Trond Vold @ Mar 20 2008, 07:10 AM) *
Well, sometimes i think it's not all that important to be able to play through it perfectly. In even the most difficult lessons you can still pick up some helpfull moves/techniques/theory advice even if your not able to play it all.

But if the lesson is something that's in your range of playing ability, then i think you should try to nail it before moving on.


+1

Posted by: Jakub Luptovec Mar 20 2008, 09:54 AM

Ohhh.. Tron and Marcus'es.. you just saved my Guitar ego:D this is just what I am doing.. and I have been feeling ashamed, that I cant do one lesson through, or if I learn it full, then not at full speed... my target is to learn what I like on that lesson and then use it.. the problem is, that I have almost nothing to show off... but rock at improvisation and composing:D

Posted by: Dejan Mar 20 2008, 10:12 AM

QUOTE (Jakub Luptovec @ Mar 20 2008, 09:54 AM) *
my target is to learn what I like on that lesson and then use it.. the problem is, that I have almost nothing to show off... but rock at improvisation and composing:D


you got the purpose, it is not to learn the lessons perfectly, but to use the technique and theory that you learn here for your own performance or composing smile.gif

Posted by: Nemanja Mar 20 2008, 10:13 AM

try to go the dificulty chirachy...ad go with the lessoms that begins with 1 and the to 10...

Posted by: Juan M. Valero Mar 20 2008, 10:27 AM

I think it's not a good idea to focus on one lesson, because there are some steps in each lesson. For instance first one is memorizing all the lesson, and a second step would be playing it with a metronome or BT, so when you really memorize one lesson you can start another and learn the new one and practice the older...

BTW the most important in each lesson is to get something that you can apply to your OWN playing.

Posted by: audiopaal Mar 20 2008, 10:28 AM

QUOTE (Trond Vold @ Mar 20 2008, 07:10 AM) *
Well, sometimes i think it's not all that important to be able to play through it perfectly. In even the most difficult lessons you can still pick up some helpfull moves/techniques/theory advice even if your not able to play it all.

But if the lesson is something that's in your range of playing ability, then i think you should try to nail it before moving on.


+1

Posted by: RIP Dime Mar 20 2008, 12:11 PM

QUOTE (Juan M. Valero @ Mar 20 2008, 10:27 AM) *
I think it's not a good idea to focus on one lesson, because there are some steps in each lesson. For instance first one is memorizing all the lesson, and a second step would be playing it with a metronome or BT, so when you really memorize one lesson you can start another and learn the new one and practice the older...

BTW the most important in each lesson is to get something that you can apply to your OWN playing.


That's what I was doing before, but I let it pile up too much, I was practicing like 6 lessons and learning 3. It just got all mushed together and I really didn't learn anything to apply to my own playing, but now my top priority will be to take the things I learn from the lesson and transplant it into my own playing. smile.gif

Posted by: Juan M. Valero Mar 20 2008, 12:22 PM

yeah, that's the most important, transplat it into your own playing wink.gif

Posted by: Muris Mar 20 2008, 02:06 PM

QUOTE (Trond Vold @ Mar 20 2008, 07:10 AM) *
Well, sometimes i think it's not all that important to be able to play through it perfectly. In even the most difficult lessons you can still pick up some helpfull moves/techniques/theory advice even if your not able to play it all.

But if the lesson is something that's in your range of playing ability, then i think you should try to nail it before moving on.


I'm signing this in total,I believe that's the right track,thanks Trond. smile.gif

Posted by: Bogdan Mar 20 2008, 02:47 PM

Every lesson has something valuable ..You don't need to learn it all by heart , just find that value and make it useful in your future playing and you done a good job than! smile.gif

Posted by: Jerry Arcidiacono Mar 20 2008, 02:58 PM

QUOTE (Jakub Luptovec @ Mar 20 2008, 09:54 AM) *
my target is to learn what I like on that lesson and then use it..


Very good for me smile.gif
Plus, I want to say that if you get a lesson perfectly it means that you're doing also a good exercise about timing - if you play over the backing track or metronome.
Learning some licks is cool but you must be able to incorporate these licks in your own playing, using even a different timing, if is needed.

Posted by: Jakub Luptovec Mar 20 2008, 03:39 PM

Surely I am.. I do not practice that much whole lesson.. its more of.. improvising with licks used in that lesson.. and still to metronome, or backing track:) I totally agree, how proper timing is important:) Noone wants to listen to some delayed hobo...

Posted by: D.Robinson Mar 22 2008, 11:37 PM

I definately agree with Trond.

When i learn new things i may not learn the whole thing. When i learn a new lick i try to incorporate at least the idea of the lick as soon as possible into my own playing. It gets your fingers working in new ways and if you assimilate enough of them your going to advance as a player faster.


Daniel

Posted by: Jakub Luptovec Mar 23 2008, 10:56 AM

Hmm fellow musician with similiar thinking.. nice to hear smile.gif Welcome daniel and I 100% agree wink.gif

Posted by: Tuubsu Mar 23 2008, 11:19 AM

Isn't it an old wisdom that you should practice what you want and not what you think makes you good? That way you develop into the best guitarist YOU can be...

Posted by: RIP Dime Mar 23 2008, 01:22 PM

QUOTE (Tuubsu @ Mar 23 2008, 11:19 AM) *
Isn't it an old wisdom that you should practice what you want and not what you think makes you good? That way you develop into the best guitarist YOU can be...


Hmmm...maybe you misunderstood me, the reason I made this thread was because there were too many lessons I WANTED to learn, and that I was taking on too many at once and wasn't getting much out of it. smile.gif And the main reason I learn the entire lesson is that playing the lesson along with the backing track helps my timing alot. I'm always trying to be the best I can be, that's why I joined this site after 8 months of playing guitar, to maximize my potential (and because it was free, but that's a different story). laugh.gif

Posted by: Tuubsu Mar 23 2008, 06:52 PM

hmmm... I guess my point was, you should think is it really the whole lesson that you what to learn or just a certain/a couple of licks/riffs/consepts of the lesson. But anyways it's a little pickle if theres so much to learn and so little time, but I guess learning a little piece of one lesson then moving to another, then coming back to the first lesson doesn't hurt you in anyway. smile.gif

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