Hi Gabriel, Im Practcing Downpicking, i saw your reply on my comment on darius's lesson
MrVegas
Sep 12 2020, 01:12 AM
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thank you for reaching out offering your help. during practicing of downpicking i have tried a few different things to go faster play cleaner and stay relaxed. i recorded this while playing over your main video at 96% speed, what bpm would that be i wonder?
i started this lesson by trying to mimic your picking hand, keeping my fingers in, but as you can see here my fingers are out because i feel like im more relaxed this way and i can play faster. i start to tense up when i get to the end around the part that starts on the 5th fret 5th string, i always tense up here. let my know your tips and advice. i really wanna master downpicking

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Gabriel Leopardi
Sep 12 2020, 05:36 PM
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Hi mate! Great to find this thread here. 96% would be 182 bpm in this case.

Fast downpicking needs training, and even its maintenance requires some frequent practice. There are many masters of right hand but one of my favorites is James Hetfield. So one of my suggestions is to check his technique and get inspiration from his way of moving the hand and reaching the strings.



Now some specific points:

1) Fingers in or out is the same. I've seen guitarists play in both ways, and I also use one or the other depending on the control that I need. You'll see how I switch from one to the other depending on the part: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Metall...ardwired-style/
It gives me a different 'feel" so my switch sometimes is totally random.



2) I recorded a video to show you how to use what I call our "hand inertia". The idea is that you downpick and relax the hand so it gets back to the original position. This means that you need to think or do any effort to get your hand in the initial position in order to downpick again. It can be tricky to explain with words but you should get it in this video:



Practice this exercise every day and you'll get used to this economic movement.

3) Try to relax your right hand. The previous exercise should help.


These are the first thing that I would try. The key is that you practice every day, and that you apply this ideas until they become natural in your playing.

Let me know if you have any question.

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Sep 13 2020, 12:48 AM
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thank you,
to think of it as inertia keeping the had going is very helpful, ill get to practicing

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MrVegas
Sep 13 2020, 01:24 AM
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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Sep 12 2020, 04:36 PM) *
Hi mate! Great to find this thread here. 96% would be 182 bpm in this case.

Fast downpicking needs training, and even its maintenance requires some frequent practice. There are many masters of right hand but one of my favorites is James Hetfield. So one of my suggestions is to check his technique and get inspiration from his way of moving the hand and reaching the strings.


pretty cool you put this lesson for me to learn for more downpicking practice but im one step ahead of you, learned this lesson a a few weeks ago for the down picking. still havent posted it, im working on the galloping sounding part on the open E to triplet on F note, but im almost there
quoted the wrong video but im sure you know what i mean

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Victor Simion
Sep 13 2020, 02:48 PM
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What do you think about this video I came across a few days?
I find it very helpful for downpicking.


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QUOTE (MrVegas @ Sep 12 2020, 08:48 PM) *
thank you,
to think of it as inertia keeping the had going is very helpful, ill get to practicing



Yes! I've first learnt this idea from a Classical Guitar player but recently I've seen that Rick Graham also applies this thinking/concept to his playing. In my case, it's been a game changer.

I think that all efficient guitarists do it, but being conscious about it can be a great short cut for beginner / intermediate players.

QUOTE (MrVegas @ Sep 12 2020, 09:24 PM) *
pretty cool you put this lesson for me to learn for more downpicking practice but im one step ahead of you, learned this lesson a a few weeks ago for the down picking. still havent posted it, im working on the galloping sounding part on the open E to triplet on F note, but im almost there
quoted the wrong video but im sure you know what i mean



Excellent choice!! I'll wait for your video. You can share a preview in this thread.

QUOTE (Victor Simion @ Sep 13 2020, 10:48 AM) *
What do you think about this video I came across a few days?
I find it very helpful for downpicking.



That's a great training exercise! I would definitely add something like this into my routine if I would need to train/maintain this technique.

But it's also important to practice it in a musical context.

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Downpicking-Primer/

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