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May 1 2013, 10:14 PM |
Hi guys! I have been discussing with a friend who is Electronic Engineer about Tube amps and Solid State Amps. His point of view is that Tube Amps are something obsolete from the past and that newer technologies are better...
As I have never tried a top line Solid State Guitar Amp, I was wondering which you think are are the best ones for rock & metal. I know that Tech21 is doing some of these. -------------------- My lessons
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May 1 2013, 11:33 PM |
I can only think of a few amps that are SS.
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May 1 2013, 11:37 PM |
The Peavey Vypyr is definitely up there with the best
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May 2 2013, 04:20 AM |
There's a company called Pritchard. They make some really high end SS amps. Expensive too.
http://www.pritchardamps.com/pritchardamps.cfm As Todd says, "obsolete - ?" ... hardly. SS and tube characteristics are very different and both work very we'll in different applications. Tell your buddy to design an SS amp that really does react exactly like a 1968 50 watt Marshall Plexi and he'll be rich beyond his dreams. Seriously, there's a lot of us waiting to not have haul that crap around anymore This post has been edited by klasaine: May 2 2013, 07:41 AM -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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May 2 2013, 07:44 AM |
Here's an actual Ken Fisher 'Trainwreck' amp.
Sound the same? -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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May 3 2013, 04:59 AM |
Interesting answers. I will share this thread with my friend and then I'll let you know his thoughts. I also think that digital world is getting closer to what we dreamed... having everything in one device with top quality. I couldn't try an Axe yet, but I would love to do it...
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May 3 2013, 09:12 AM
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I highly disagree when it comes to tube amps being obsolete, and that's coming from an AxeFX II owner. As much as I love tube amps, and digital processors, solid states amps can be just as rad. I looooove a lot of Fender's cheap solid state amps, they're surprisingly good amps for jazz and even rock! I plugged my $50 Tele into a $125 solid state Fender 2x12 at school and it was SPOT ON Van Halen tone!! Who would've guessed it, right? I also really like AMT's Stonehead amp. Solid State, but wicked for high gain tones, even modern progressive metal!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Btttv0kSWcU I have an AxeFX II because it does it's thing, but I have a small tube amp too because it has it's own thing as well. Solid states amps are the same way. They're all different, and they are all equally awesome to me! |
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May 3 2013, 02:53 PM |
Cool video featuring the AMT amp. I haven't heard this one before. It sounds killer!
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May 3 2013, 04:35 PM |
Really clean and very high gain tones SS can do very well.
Its the middle ground - low, medium and crunch - that is ( so far) they're weak point. -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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May 3 2013, 09:10 PM |
I'm sure some SS amp/processor will do a spot on clone of a KLON On mid gain. We are getting close, but you can do it with a tube amp as mentioned for a pretty cheap price, and faking it with math doesn't come cheap yet Todd And ... and this is huge for musicians in bands on stage ... with a decent tube amp and few nice analog pedals you can easily TWEAK VERY QUICKLY to get the tone you need for that gig/venue. Most tube amps and analog pedals are by design '1(or 2)-trick ponies' but if that's the trick you need - nothing else really works. Now, in the studio, with good converters and a good word clock - even a POD 2.0 is still very seviceable. I've had a Line 6 POD since 1999 and I haven't upgraded since the 2.0 upgrade (I just put the new processor in my original POD). I still use it on actual sessions (not just demos) for TV and movies - tons of players do. I've nailed the models that I feel 'work' (for me) and I really have no desire to fk with anything that's working. Having said that I am thinking about an 11 Rack. Also, I would love an SS amp that just gave me one GREAT real Marshall Plexi tone and/or Fender BF Deluxe tone (not the recorded, mixed and mastered tone - the actual tone and feel) - that's all. I can do the rest with guitars, a couple pedals and my hands. I personally think one of the (self imposed) road blocks for SS amp builders is that 'most' of them are trying to do it all. Like, here's the entire history of high-gain amps in one $300.00 small combo. Ummm ... no, not really - sorry. How about just three: JCM 800, AC 30, BF Deluxe ... and no fx (OK, maybe reverb?) Nail those 3 and you have a winner! I guarantee that they'd sell MANY of those to actual professionals and that in turn would stimulate the student and amatuer markets. This post has been edited by klasaine: May 4 2013, 06:36 AM -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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May 4 2013, 05:21 PM |
The good news is that technology tends to get cheaper and better as we go so Kemper/Axe Fx quality will be well within the Pod range affordability soon enough. But of course, by then the "High End" stuff will be doing God knows what by that time Todd This is the cool side of this! -------------------- My lessons
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May 16 2013, 04:47 PM |
Best means different things to different people.
If I had to choose the 'most iconic' solid state amp I would choose the Roland JC-120. It pretty much replaced the Fender Twin as the standard combo rental amp for quite a few years and it was the first amp to have the chorus built in. The JC also has a sound all its own that some people really like. Many solid state amps are made for lower price points but the JC-120 was the first that you saw across a lot of different styles and was widely accepted. I suppose Polytone could be considered one of the more popular amps for jazz players, but I don't think they're as popular as they once were. I prefer tubes which are obsolete for a lot of things. Musical amplifiers (tell your friend to look into the audiophile market) are one thing most people feel they do better then solid state. -------------------- company contact
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