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klasaine
Jan 26 2020, 11:55 PM
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QUOTE (jstcrsn @ Jan 26 2020, 03:42 PM) *
did you see that Wooten video in my earlier post


Yes!
That should be mandatory viewing for ANY musician that even thinks that they might want to play with another musician.

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QUOTE (jstcrsn @ Jan 26 2020, 09:14 PM) *
The main thing I see is that they don't know when to not play


Aka playing too many notes / not enough silence? You are def right though that disease is chronic for most guitarists! 😅

QUOTE (klasaine @ Jan 26 2020, 09:49 PM) *
Old guy rant alert!

Maybe they're more comfortable but it just sounds like mindless, out of time wanking to me ... and a lot of questionable note choices. Nobody's playing rhythm. Not one friggin' chord. They're just waiting to play. No real interaction with the drums and bass either. That's not a 'jam'. May as well just have had a backing track. Yuck! Sorry but I draw the line at this amateur BS playing. *The dude with the ball cap is the only one that sort of knows where the time is and actually tells a little story.

Ever have a conversation with someone who's just waiting to talk? That's what this is.


You are spot on here - it's a little like they are waiting for their 1 minute of instagram fame. They should all be bouncing with the music and trying to find pockets where they could complement each others leads. And help build it up towards a climaxe together!

I have said it twice now, I must be getting old as well 👴

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QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Jan 26 2020, 04:58 PM) *
I have said it twice now, I must be getting old as well 👴


It happens to the best of us ... inevitably.

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Listen to how many times they "don't " play

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Ever have a conversation with someone who's just waiting to talk? That's what this is.


I love that metaphor. I can see what you mean in the video.

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QUOTE (jstcrsn @ Jan 27 2020, 05:29 AM) *


Listen to how many times they "don't " play


And the amazing build up to the end!
Acutely demonstrating the very wide chasm between the 'real' thing ... and not the real thing.

There is a bar in the arts. You can choose to ignore it but you'll never be taken seriously if you don't at least try to get close to it.

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Todd Simpson
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Very true. Some very good points! The instagram guys are all much more in their element when they are doing the instagram thing over a light backing track. The track is just scenery though. They are not doing much with it as ken says. Very much just waiting to play. The isolation of having technology rather than other musicians to jam with seems to be creating more and more of these types of players.

I can appreciate the skill of execution, but I do have to agree that it's a very one sided musical conversation. Just not that interesting.

It's way better than they did on stage with Vai and Satch though. They were just so outclassed that it was almost hard to watch. At least letting them sorta play with each other over a very light backing, they sorta show of what they actually do. E.G. .Instagram shredding smile.gif


QUOTE (klasaine @ Jan 27 2020, 05:26 PM) *
And the amazing build up to the end!
Acutely demonstrating the very wide chasm between the 'real' thing ... and not the real thing.

There is a bar in the arts. You can choose to ignore it but you'll never be taken seriously if you don't at least try to get close to it.


That's why I suggested the "instagram jam" next year at namm smile.gif Only instagram players, little or no backing track, etc.
I didn't realize til you mentioned it but yeah, bit light on chords!!!! smile.gif

QUOTE (klasaine @ Jan 26 2020, 04:49 PM) *
Old guy rant alert!

Maybe they're more comfortable but it just sounds like mindless, out of time wanking to me ... and a lot of questionable note choices. Nobody's playing rhythm. Not one friggin' chord. They're just waiting to play. No real interaction with the drums and bass either. That's not a 'jam'. May as well just have had a backing track. Yuck! Sorry but I draw the line at this amateur BS playing. *The dude with the ball cap is the only one that sort of knows where the time is and actually tells a little story.

Ever have a conversation with someone who's just waiting to talk? That's what this is.

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