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Posted by: mattacuk Oct 6 2007, 07:47 PM

Hi dudes!
It seems i ask questions about gear/effects/tones on a daily basis now - so why break the habit !!!

I was wondering what gives fender tube amps that glassy twangy sound ? Is it a special type of reverb? the preamp?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyeinBX_dx8

thanks!!

Posted by: ZakkWylde Oct 6 2007, 08:10 PM

I always thought the twang comes from the guitar (strat+coil) and not from the amp?!

Posted by: MickeM Oct 6 2007, 08:24 PM

A Fender Strat. Though the combination beween a Fender tube amp and a fender guitar is hard to beat for that sound.

Posted by: mattacuk Oct 6 2007, 08:29 PM

The problem with me is i want every tone going Shred, Rock, Blues, Jazz.... the list goes on!

Posted by: Robin Oct 6 2007, 08:32 PM

Thats how Strat single coils sounds. Probably no super special effects.

Posted by: mattacuk Oct 6 2007, 08:42 PM

Maybe i will add a Strat to the collection one day - they sound great. But not before my Gibson !!

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Oct 6 2007, 09:17 PM

Its not just the guitar - Fender amps are known for their glassy cleans - that would not sound the same through a Marshall. Fenders use 6L6 tubes, and make some design choices that emphasise this kind of sound.

Having said that, it is mostly the single coil strat sound you are hearing.

Posted by: mattacuk Oct 7 2007, 10:10 PM

That is a great answer andrew thanks!!

Posted by: benhowell Oct 7 2007, 10:15 PM

6L6's and 6v6's-Love them!

-Ben

Posted by: mattacuk Oct 7 2007, 10:16 PM

Is there anyway of getting a similair sound via a pedal choice?

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Oct 7 2007, 10:50 PM

Not really - single coil is single coil. You just can't get a humbucker to sound the same. To duplicate an amp sound you are into amp modelling via a pod - that can get you a lot of the way there.

Posted by: benhowell Oct 7 2007, 11:02 PM

If you need/want a fender sound from a pedal, there are these:

http://www.gear4music.com/Boss_FBM-1_59_Fender_Bassman_Pedal.html?gad=COO_5foBEgjUTSM1_6-iXBi0mZL_AyDfv5AR

Whether it is any good at replicating the sound im not sure, but it is marketed as an amp in a pedal.

-Ben

http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM07/Content/Boss/PR/Fender-Pedals.html

Posted by: tonymiro Oct 7 2007, 11:20 PM

One other amp choice for glassy type clean - a good transistor amp like a Roland JC 120. Trannies generally don't do distortion well but clean they often excel at. (Just don't think that sticking a distortion pedal on the clean channel will give you a Mesa Boogie Triple Rec though - you'll just get a pretty nasty buzz saw )

Apart from the valves in the Fender another thing that helps here is the quality of the reverb. Fender usually use an excellent Accutronics. But all said it's more the single coils and the actual 6L6s imo.

Cheers,
Tony

Posted by: JVM Oct 7 2007, 11:29 PM

I can get a pretty close sound to this with my fender deluxe and the single coil in neck-mid or just neck positions on the parker nitefly. Add just a little reverb, a lot of fun to play around with.

Posted by: mattacuk Oct 7 2007, 11:34 PM

Thanks for all your responses. Its just yet another tone i like, i basically like so many setups it might be an Idea for me to look at a POD ! Although those pedals ben mentioned look good too.

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Oct 8 2007, 12:46 AM

Yes, I would say the pod is great for clean and Hi-Gain - lo to mid gain with touch sensitivity it doesn't do quite so well, although I do like the Vox AC30 model.

Posted by: mattacuk Oct 8 2007, 03:36 AM

Do you plug the pod into your pc,or can you run it through an amp? Sorry i am a real POD/multi effects noob.

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Oct 8 2007, 03:40 AM

I run mine through a mixer to my monitors.

The pod as settings for playing through a regular guitar amp though it is at its best when played through a clean system like a monitor, headphones or a keyboard or PA amp - your mileage may vary though depending on the exact characteristics of your amp.

Posted by: mattacuk Oct 8 2007, 04:21 AM

I could run it through my PC as i have wicked quality speakers. I really think ill look into one of this for christmas. It would nice to be able to play various styles without breaking the bank everytime i want a different tone!

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Oct 8 2007, 04:38 AM

Well you can't exactly run it through your PC - it takes the place of your existing soundcard (of course you can choose to use either). But you have to hook the output up to a stereo amp and speakers - that could be a set of computer speakers of course, but you would need to unhook them from your existing soundcard, get the right cables/adapters to hook up to your pod.

Regards,

Andrew

Posted by: murphy33 Oct 11 2007, 08:32 AM

hey mattacuk, i have been playing though a behringer "V-ampire"half stack for about a year and a half now and it models ALOT of amps with about 16 effects built in, also has 25 chanels with 5 gates on each chanel preset from the factory. its probably one of the cheapest amps out there but sounds great and you can can really get some cool sounds out of it. i was looking for versatility as well and after looking at several amps decided on this one. the head 120 watt solid state was 199.99USD and the 4x12 cabinet 400watt was 199.99USD as well. definently an amp to try out if you dont want to "break the bank" and have versatility. just an idea. good luck i know buying guitar equipment can be very stressful sometimes.