Abject And Utter Stupidity? Pedals Costing More Thank 1k
Todd Simpson
Oct 18 2021, 06:23 AM
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Wow. Yup. There are a wad of pedals out there on the used market that run north of A THOUSAND DOLLARS. To each his own and all. But. I must say this seems just silly. None of these seem to do anything that can't be replicated in software to be honest. Sure, some are quite rare. it seems the market has decided that these crazy prices are ok. such is the way of supply and demand. What to you think? Are these worth more than a grand?




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Oct 18 2021, 06:49 AM
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From an investment point maybe they're worth the money (and may rise to profit you). From a playing perspective, I don't know if they're worth that. I've always either been a multi-effect kinda guy or plugin. On a few occasions I've used pedals of course, but I don't think I'd play or use a TS808 from 1980 if I had one for instance. But if you buy one for 1000 USD and sell it in 10 years for 3000 USD, then that's not a bad investment, I suppose.

I remember seeing the JPM100 P1 for about 1000-1300 USD back in 2005 or so. Recently saw one sell for about 7000 USD. Not sure if I could have made myself sell it, but that's some profit smile.gif

I think there's a limit where it goes from playability to collectability. I can't say where that limit is for me, and it obviously varies for everyone, and probably depends on how much money you have otherwise.

I am VERY happy that I have gone from some 300-500 USD guitars to my 2000 USD Ibanez guitars. They've made me enjoy playing more (I still don't play enough), and they've improved the joy I get out of it. Would a Klon Centaur overdrive at 5000 USD do that to me, compared to say a newer TS808 or TS9 at 150 USD. Okay, not the same kinda pedal maybe, but you get my point. TS808 in 2021 vs one from 1980 then.

If I got or bought a 5000 USD guitar now I wouldn't dare play it, I think. Not only would it maybe be rare, but also difficult to replace. I think my insurance would cover it, but still. The RG3727 I have now is just perfect for me - it WAS expensive, but I feel like it suits me and that's important too of course. Mentally, motivational and physically (frets, style, action etc), sound, pick ups and all.

If I had 500.000 USD in my bank account then the situation might be different. Money changes people, I suppose.

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klasaine
Oct 18 2021, 03:22 PM
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At this point, I would never pay that for any pedal.

I have sold two pedals for north of $1000 US. An original gold horsie man Klon and a DAM Tone Bender. Both I paid the standard retail price for when they were new.

I did buy a Klon 'KTR' several years ago when they came out ($300.00) assuming that eventually they'd go up. It's a slow burn but the builder (Bill Finnegan) has said that he can't get some of the parts anymore and the design will be changing. Ka-ching!
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Todd Simpson
Oct 18 2021, 08:29 PM
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Good point. At some point, it goes from gear to "collectible", sort of like really expensive cars that some people buy but never drive. I have spent quite a bit on analogue gear so i can't really knock folks for buying pricey pedals. My two hand built myasnikov preamps were $500 each. I too an a multi fx guy and a plugin guy. Though I do still enjoy a nice tube preamp smile.gif The preamp that my soldano clone is based on runs $3k-$5k which really does seem crazy. Of course, as you say, this sort of thing is almost more of an investment that a gear purchase. The rarity will persist and they will all probably go up in value.

QUOTE (Caelumamittendum @ Oct 18 2021, 01:49 AM) *
From an investment point maybe they're worth the money (and may rise to profit you). From a playing perspective, I don't know if they're worth that. I've always either been a multi-effect kinda guy or plugin. On a few occasions I've used pedals of course, but I don't think I'd play or use a TS808 from 1980 if I had one for instance. But if you buy one for 1000 USD and sell it in 10 years for 3000 USD, then that's not a bad investment, I suppose.

I remember seeing the JPM100 P1 for about 1000-1300 USD back in 2005 or so. Recently saw one sell for about 7000 USD. Not

If I had 500.000 USD in my bank account then the situation might be different. Money changes people, I suppose.



Bam!! The KTR are already north of of 1k. Well done getting in at retail prices and holding for the bump smile.gif I got a kick from the disclaimer he puts on the top of the KTR. "Don't blame me for KLON prices being crazy, it ain't my fault"

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QUOTE (klasaine @ Oct 18 2021, 10:22 AM) *
At this point, I would never pay that for any pedal.

I have sold two pedals for north of $1000 US. An original gold horsie man Klon and a DAM Tone Bender. Both I paid the standard retail price for when they were new.

I did buy a Klon 'KTR' several years ago when they came out ($300.00) assuming that eventually they'd go up. It's a slow burn but the builder (Bill Finnegan) has said that he can't get some of the parts anymore and the design will be changing. Ka-ching!
https://reverb.com/marketplace?make=klon&query=klon+ktr

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Oct 18 2021, 09:42 PM
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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Oct 18 2021, 09:29 PM) *
Good point. At some point, it goes from gear to "collectible", sort of like really expensive cars that some people buy but never drive. I have spent quite a bit on analogue gear so i can't really knock folks for buying pricey pedals. My two hand built myasnikov preamps were $500 each. I too an a multi fx guy and a plugin guy. Though I do still enjoy a nice tube preamp smile.gif The preamp that my soldano clone is based on runs $3k-$5k which really does seem crazy. Of course, as you say, this sort of thing is almost more of an investment that a gear purchase. The rarity will persist and they will all probably go up in value.


Yup, I enjoy my tube amp more than any other non-tube amp I've played, but the ease of a plugin when just casually playing and recording at the computer is nice. I do think my real tube amp feels more "alive" though, in lack of a better word.

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