The Fans Deserve Better! |
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Aug 11 2014, 07:08 PM |
Great video and hilarious guy ! P.S. Lots of F-words This post has been edited by WeePee: Aug 11 2014, 10:19 PM |
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Aug 12 2014, 07:56 AM |
Like Todd said Freddie was really talented singer. I saw this one document making of that album. He could sing perfect harmonies on top of his own vocal tracks.
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Aug 18 2014, 11:39 PM |
This video is spot on. I think that technology in recording/mixing/production has made some great things possible for modern musicians but the downside is really obvious : there is real danger of being more lazy in terms of "yeah, we'll fix that later". The vocals which can be fixed by auto-tune, guitarists can track million takes and even punch in single notes and drummers don't even need to play In environment where studio time is very expensive, some musicians might even be forced to make these "compromises". Thing they wouldn't do if they didn't have the tools available.
What is worrying me is that auto-tune treated vocals are everywhere that our ears might be starting to get really accustomed to them and as time goes by, we'll just think of it as "modern sound" and maybe not even notice it at all. BTW - which songs started the auto-tune trend? This one made it popular as an effect I guess : BTW - new technology can be really useful. My band once had a song recorded with one chord played on the wrong fret and we didn't notice it quite late in the mix/production. We used the pitch shifting to fix it and it worked well -------------------- For GMC support please email support (at) guitarmasterclass.net
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Aug 20 2014, 03:15 PM |
Despite all this, and even with every tool in the world at your fingertips, it remains a challenge to do one thing. Get ANYONE to care AT ALL about your music. True dat. Autotune doesn't write the song ... yet -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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Aug 20 2014, 03:18 PM |
Today I was listening to this amazing song and paid special attention to the lyrics which are very connected to this topic:
Hear the sound of music Drifting in the aisles Elevator prozac Stretching on for miles The music of the future Will not entertain It's only meant to repress And neutralise your brain Soul gets squeezed out Edges get blunt Demographic Gives what you want One of the wonders of the world is going down It's going down I know It's one of the blunders of the world that no-one cares No-one cares enough Now the sound of music Comes in silver pills Engineered to suit you Building cheaper thrills The music of rebellion Makes you wanna rage But it's made by millionaires Who are nearly twice your age Soul gets squeezed out Edges get blunt Demographic Gives what you want One of the wonders of the world is going down It's going down I know It's one of the blunders of the world that no-one cares No-one cares enough -------------------- My lessons
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Aug 20 2014, 11:03 PM |
Except that 'Muzak' was actually all very real as far as how it was recorded. Mellow and relaxed - yes. Fake - no.
A lot of it completely live in the studio, real drums and no such thing as autotune or modeling. As unemotional as it may be it was done exactly like a real record (with decent budgets). I recorded a lot of Muzak in the late 80s and early 90s. *Porcupine Tree (Stevan Wilson) is awesome and that record is great! -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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Aug 21 2014, 01:31 AM |
I was blown away when I first heard this |
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Aug 22 2014, 05:23 PM |
The majority of music listeners are cheap and lazy and are getting what they deserve
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Aug 22 2014, 06:32 PM |
Autotune is a tool and as with any tool shouldnot be blamed. It's how it is used or more precisely abused that is the issue.
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Aug 23 2014, 09:02 AM |
I have to agree with you Fans get what they want to some degree in that they pay for stuff they want to see and hear. While it's true that they are "force fed" most of it from radio/mtv etc., they still "like" it enough to shell out money for it and thus we have the crap that passes for popular music. Those fans deserve what they get.
Perhaps he means "discerning fans deserve better" and I agree they do! As Kris mentioned I too am a fan of modern recording tools and I too use sucky drum samples. As was mentioned, who can afford a drummer? If I were recording something for release that I planned to pay to promote, I'd probably hire the amazing KEVIN TALLEY for drums as he works remotely for about $150 per recorded minute. He's played with some serious bands and he's a serious drummer. Here is his web site.http://drummerkevintalley.com/ I once had a bass player named ADAM NITTI record bass for a track I was working on. IT ran me $300. He played an AMAZING part. It was so good, it outshined the guitars These days you can hire nearly anyone you want and send them your mp3 and they will record the part and email it back to you or what not for a few hundred bux. But for stuff that is going to be released for fun? EZ DRUMMER all the way!!!!! Cool video with some valid points! Saying the *fans* deserve better feels like a bit of a contradiction though, if there were fans in the first place there must have been something they appreciated with the band (with or without autotune). .. In the end I guess it's a matter of personal preferences and priorities. And as we all now, the car itself can't get you anywhere - the [wo-]man behind the steering wheel needs to know the right pathway. HUGE props to tony for this link!!! Everyone go there and check it out. I joined right away. thanks!! Here is my link to my NEW PROFILE!!!! " target="_blank">https://soundbetter.com/profiles/7233-metal...al-and-metal-</a> Autotune is a tool and as with any tool shouldnot be blamed. It's how it is used or more precisely abused that is the issue.
and to add to what Ken said: https://soundbetter.com/profiles/7137-the-c...recording-order This post has been edited by Todd Simpson: Aug 23 2014, 09:13 AM |
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