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Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 9 2013, 07:21 AM

Hey man - we'll talk in English here, but this is your very own, personal thread in which we will deal with your guitar playing development wink.gif

For starting out, I'd be curious on listening to a recording of yours after going through one of these lessons here:

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guitar/blues-soloing-beginner/

I'm interested in seeing how accurate and expressive you are with your bends and timing smile.gif Step by step, we'll go through a lot of bluesy stuff and the more you record and listen to yourself, the better you'll become.

Do we have a deal here, my fellow countryman?

Cosmin

Posted by: Kimiko May 9 2013, 09:08 AM

Lemme just say that this IS awesome!! biggrin.gif

Can't wait to start these lessons, i promise i'll get on them as soon as possible, once i'm finished i'll let you know and keep you posted.

Thanks for this once again. biggrin.gif

Andrei

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 10 2013, 07:45 AM

Looking forward to that mate!

Posted by: Kimiko May 11 2013, 07:48 PM

Weeell...managed to record it finally..
To my surprise is wasn't as easy as i'd expected it to be. I seem to have some trouble when recording haha biggrin.gif
I get in position, rehears it(sounds decent), i press record then...boom starts sounding bad smile.gif) I'm sure that'll go away soon.

Anyway here's the recording, it's not perfect , it's not as good as i'd want it to be, i might have done the turnaround a half step higher than i was supposed to unsure.gif and i could probably do better after a few more tries but ehh smile.gif

Cheers!
Andrei

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Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 12 2013, 07:42 PM

Hey mate! This doesn't sound bad at all! here are my suggestions:

- watch out for the bend at 0:11 as it's slightly under the pitch- the same for 0:15 and 0:20, 0:23, 0:27
- the part around 0:27 - 0:30 sounds a bit muddy and undefined

I think you should re-record this whole piece slower at first, because you have the tendency of not hitting the aimed for notes when bending and I think this is essential regardless of the style you will be playing.

Please re-record after taking care of the mentioned spots.

Cosmin

Posted by: Kimiko May 13 2013, 06:45 AM

Right...i'll do just that...
First i'll work it out at a slower tempo and gradually raise it as it sounds better.

As for the around 0:27 - 0:30...well that one is kind of giving me trouble as it is now but i'll just keep at it until i get it right. smile.gif

I hope not to disappoint. smile.gif

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 13 2013, 07:11 AM

QUOTE (Kimiko @ May 13 2013, 05:45 AM) *
Right...i'll do just that...
First i'll work it out at a slower tempo and gradually raise it as it sounds better.

As for the around 0:27 - 0:30...well that one is kind of giving me trouble as it is now but i'll just keep at it until i get it right. smile.gif

I hope not to disappoint. smile.gif


Good morning Andrei - there is no such thing as disappointment here smile.gif We are all here to learn and this is a part of the experience, ok? No worries at all my friend, just play it slow and as close to perfection as possible, focusing on the suggestions that I've made and post it here, ok?

Posted by: Kimiko May 13 2013, 02:19 PM

Hey Cosmin,

I was wondering if you could give me some tips or method on how to improve my bending. As far as i can tell from your personal feedback and my own analysis, my bends are tense, so is my had when performing them, maybe you could help me with some advice on exercises than i can practice. Also it would be suuuper cool if you could help me understand a bit the technique of bending and fast picking. I see a lot of great guitar players combining bends and then some fast picking or vice-versa (Like Gary Moore, Clapton and many others)

Another idea that just stroke me...i've noticed that i have a tendency to use my pinky when doing a bend on the B and high- E string. Due to the lack of strength in that finger, it's a possible reason why those bends don't reach the desired note (be it a full step bend for instance). Should i use my ring finger for it? I see a lot of guitar players using both methods depending on several stuff (either the nature of the solo or sheer comfort).

One thing i am certain i desperately need to work on the rigidity of my hand. Holding it too loose will cut my speed, holding it too tense will make it sound muddy and undefined as you clearly noticed. smile.gif

Thanks a bunch,
Andrei

Posted by: Kimiko May 13 2013, 08:38 PM

Well i had another go at it...i tried to focus on the things you said but i donno i just can't get a nice clean recording. I'm bound to screw some part up.. smile.gif

So there you go another 2 tries...combine them and i think you'll get a decent one...haha biggrin.gif

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Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 14 2013, 01:14 PM

QUOTE (Kimiko @ May 13 2013, 07:38 PM) *
Well i had another go at it...i tried to focus on the things you said but i donno i just can't get a nice clean recording. I'm bound to screw some part up.. smile.gif

So there you go another 2 tries...combine them and i think you'll get a decent one...haha biggrin.gif


Hey mate - I think that your guitar is a bit out of tune in both takes and it sounds like your first take was better than these two. Stay tuned for a little video I am posting in an hour or so, regarding your questions, ok?

Posted by: Kimiko May 14 2013, 01:40 PM

Out of tune you say? Hmmm...i seriously hope not although listening again it does feel like it...i'll keep on it, i'll middle with the amp settings also...
I seriously hope it's not the strings...changing strings on a Floyd Rose is annoying biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Looking forward to your video... smile.gif

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 14 2013, 02:37 PM

Here we go mate:


Posted by: Kimiko May 14 2013, 05:30 PM

Heeeey that's exactly what i need... biggrin.gif

Thanks so much i'll get right on the technique exercise.

Thanks a bunch for all the help and support Cosmin.

Edit: This is getting really really frustrating... dry.gif
I tried to get it right a bunch of times and tried recording for about 2 hours now (press record, play, stop record, notice it sounds bad, repeat for 2 hours straight). The result? no where near satisfactory, apart from hurting fingers...i'll post what i have so far (as in the least bad version from them all)...maybe tomorrow i guess.. sad.gif

Keep you posted.

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Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 15 2013, 07:57 AM

Hey Andrei, it sounds a bit better - the bends sound more in pitch, but those phrases that were blurry before aren't yet taken care of. Mate, listen - progress doesn't happen over night. Your body needs time to adapt and you should give it to it. The key to progress lies in patience and time well spent practicing. Work on the exercises I gave you and rehearse the lesson now and then but without making this thing a competition, ok? You are on a journey not in a race smile.gif

In the mean time, why not try some blues rhythm in order to keep things diverse and not dive into an ocean of frustration smile.gif

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Whitesnake-Blues-Rhythm/

This will work both your rhythm and articulation skills wink.gif What say you?

Posted by: Kimiko May 15 2013, 08:28 AM

Sweet, i'll get on it. smile.gif

Quick question though. I notice it's in the Key of Eb. My guitar has a Floyd bridge and is currently tuned in standard tuning.
So my options are sort of limited:
- I either change my tuning to half step down. (It should take around 30 minutes at least)
- Don't change the tuning and just transpose it by a half step down. (ex: playing a F#5 instead of a G5 and so on )
- Don't change the tuning and just put a capo on the first fret and play regularly (This might be the easiest way to do it)

Which one of these do you recommend? Or perhaps you have another recommendation? smile.gif

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 15 2013, 08:32 AM

This is why I hate floyd bridges smile.gif laugh.gif

The option that would provide the best result would be to change the tuning - although it would be easier to raise the pitch of the backing track using a little software called 'The amazing slowdowner' - it allows you to detune, uptune and slow down or speed up anything without losing quality wink.gif

Posted by: Kimiko May 15 2013, 08:49 AM

Ahh sweet i'll look into that...
Last thing (hope it's the last thing i need clarification on biggrin.gif)...Pick harmonics..I sort of know what they are, I've even played a few during my lead guitar journey, but i haven't got the basics straight as of yet. I know it's produced by your thumb gently touching the string right after picking it but i've never been able to actually make it squeal with the low E, A strings...most successful were the G and B strings.

Could you give me some magic wisdom senpai? biggrin.gif

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 16 2013, 08:53 AM

QUOTE (Kimiko @ May 15 2013, 07:49 AM) *
Ahh sweet i'll look into that...
Last thing (hope it's the last thing i need clarification on biggrin.gif)...Pick harmonics..I sort of know what they are, I've even played a few during my lead guitar journey, but i haven't got the basics straight as of yet. I know it's produced by your thumb gently touching the string right after picking it but i've never been able to actually make it squeal with the low E, A strings...most successful were the G and B strings.

Could you give me some magic wisdom senpai? biggrin.gif


Hello there my friend smile.gif Of course, a video would be more explicit than a bunch of words so stay tuned today wink.gif

Posted by: Kimiko May 16 2013, 09:29 AM

You're the best! biggrin.gif
Thanks smile.gif

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 16 2013, 02:12 PM

QUOTE (Kimiko @ May 16 2013, 08:29 AM) *
You're the best! biggrin.gif
Thanks smile.gif


Thank you for your kind thoughts mate!

Here ya go:


Posted by: Kimiko May 18 2013, 12:00 PM

With a bit of delay here is the Whitesnake-ish riff biggrin.gif
Would of done it sooner but i was sort of busy this week...

The harmonics are going good but i still need practice plus i find it hard to get it right when using the high E string...it's a matter of getting used to the technique i suppose.

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Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 19 2013, 11:37 AM

Hey mate smile.gif This is almost there!

You have a few timing issues in the beginning and after the drums kick in, the vibrato could use a bit of work throughout the take.

Now after taking care of these issues, I'd like you to try to interpret the riff a bit, by focusing on having great timing, attack and playing tight. The final result should be a riff filled with attitude!

I think you need more slow practice to make it sound really good! What do you say mate?

Posted by: Kimiko May 19 2013, 08:59 PM

Sooo...lemme get this straight... you want me to focus on the timing and vibrato and after that...start improvising and adding a more personal note to the riff is that right?

If so then i have a few ideas biggrin.gif

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 20 2013, 08:51 AM

QUOTE (Kimiko @ May 19 2013, 07:59 PM) *
Sooo...lemme get this straight... you want me to focus on the timing and vibrato and after that...start improvising and adding a more personal note to the riff is that right?

If so then i have a few ideas biggrin.gif


Hey again my Romanian friend - first thing, I want you to play this riff like your life depends of it smile.gif Improvising will come a bit later wink.gif

Posted by: Kimiko May 20 2013, 10:55 AM

Ahh that pinch harmonic is annoying...can't get it right...i don't seem to have this problem on the other strings, mainly on the low E string...curious..

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Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 20 2013, 11:24 AM

Mate - is your guitar tuned? It sounds a bit weird, like it is out of tune and indeed - that pinch harmonic there is not yet close. On the other hand, if you could shoot a video - with your phone or anything else while playing, it would help A LOT. I can't see what you are doing, so I can't quite tell what's what and what should be done so that things would improve.

Posted by: Kimiko May 20 2013, 12:30 PM

Hmm...it should be in tune. I donna it might of been the effect from the processor. I'll recheck and come back with another one. As for filming, i'll see what i can do.

Cheers!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 21 2013, 07:50 AM

QUOTE (Kimiko @ May 20 2013, 11:30 AM) *
Hmm...it should be in tune. I donna it might of been the effect from the processor. I'll recheck and come back with another one. As for filming, i'll see what i can do.

Cheers!


Ok mate - keep in mind that the filming could show me your movements, which are a very important part in your playing efficiency and overall quality. The more info you can provide in a visual/ auditive way, the more I can help smile.gif

Posted by: Kimiko May 21 2013, 09:31 AM

So i had a go at filming and stuff.
Guitar was tuned right before the take and i used the same effect as the first recording.

I'm curious to know why the harmonics are harder to do on the Low E string than on the other 5..
Video: http://speedy.sh/74eUt/CAM00071.mp4
How to download the video:

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 22 2013, 12:41 PM

Hey mate! Thanks for the explanations wink.gif I think it would also be a good idea to have a Youtube channel, which would also offer you the possibility to have your vids centralized and have them posted easily, by embedding them anywhere.

Now, out of what I am hearing, you should focus on making the chord shifts more exact - they are a bit shaky and by that I mean that they are not always dead on time.

Regarding the harmonics smile.gif Please re-shoot the movie so I can see your right hand as well biggrin.gif I can't figure out what you are doing if I can't see the right hand, right? biggrin.gif

Posted by: Kimiko May 24 2013, 10:20 AM

Ahh i see what you mean...very well..i'll get right on that but it'll have to wait for a few days...i'm sort of on a mini vacation and i don't have my guitar with me tongue.gif

It should be done on Tuesday since i get back on Monday night.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 24 2013, 10:50 AM

QUOTE (Kimiko @ May 24 2013, 09:20 AM) *
Ahh i see what you mean...very well..i'll get right on that but it'll have to wait for a few days...i'm sort of on a mini vacation and i don't have my guitar with me tongue.gif

It should be done on Tuesday since i get back on Monday night.


No hurry mate wink.gif Enjoy your time!

Posted by: Kimiko May 28 2013, 08:26 AM

So I'm back biggrin.gif

I recorded another one. Guitar was tuned right before this take. To be honest i think that harmonic might have something to do with my amp as well...I sort of use an acoustic amp and a processor. If i select a preset with some more 'attack' it tends to squeal...if i set select a tone without attack it doesn't...so that might be a trouble with why i am not able to get it right...it seems fine on other strings though.
Worked on my timing as well, hope there is a difference..haha biggrin.gif

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Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 28 2013, 10:10 AM

Possible smile.gif But still, please make a vid in which I can take a look at your right hand, aye?

It sounds like it has more intention and definition, even though there are some timing issues, for instance, that bend at 0:24 is a bit delayed and the general definition and cleanliness of the playing could be tidied up a bit smile.gif Notice how Mate stops the riffs immediately after playing? I want you to focus on that too wink.gif

Let's try the following experiment - please record over the original lesson and let's see if you can match Mate's exact phrasing biggrin.gif That will help on improving your tightness and clean playing a whole lot. In the mean time, we can also choose a lead oriented lesson having articulation elements in it. I think you need to work on that side as well smile.gif It'll be an easy one, but it will push you a bit, deal?

Posted by: Kimiko May 29 2013, 10:40 AM

Sooo here we are...
we have 2 new recordings today...one is the first with me recording over Mate's version...it sound...awful biggrin.gif
Mainly because being in different keys confuses the hell out of me and disorientates me and messed up my timing but i tried with that. I can't raise the pitch of Mate's version that'd be fantastic if possible biggrin.gif

The other recording is in the Key of E major and i tried my best to make it as tidy and clean and strict as i could. Found a new preset on my proc...seems to help with the harmonic...that or i'm getting better at it...lol

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Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 30 2013, 10:19 AM

Hey mate! I think you did a very good job with the separate recording! Tight, clean and in good timing - there are some spots in which you hesitated just a bit, but with time, you'll get better and better biggrin.gif

The other one isn't the right thing, because of the tuning differences, but I think you did a good job with the one in the key of E major!

Now, as i was saying in the previous post - what would you think about this one? smile.gif

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Beginners-Corner-21-String-Bending/ - it will help you with control, better than anyother lesson, at this point wink.gif

Cosmin

Posted by: Kimiko Jun 10 2013, 03:28 PM

Hey Cosmin,

Sorry for the late reply i was in Canada for a few days with work stuff and didn't had time to record, i will go to the States in a few on the 12th for a Convention...work stuff again.
But here's my first take on the bends. New strings attached so it sounds a bit rough and unpolished, the bends not having enough pitch every once and awhile. Once the strings loosen up a bit it should sound better. Here's what i have so far.

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Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jun 11 2013, 10:03 AM

Hey mate smile.gif Indeed, long time no see - I think you should try it again, once the strings settle and aim for the right pitches when executing the bends. Once again, if you manage to make a vid where I can see both hands, it would be more than great smile.gif

Posted by: Kimiko Jun 19 2013, 05:17 PM

Hey mate,

Sorry for the delay just been rehehealy busy with work nowadays...i managed to put up a youtube channel and a video with this lesson so check it out.


PS: Video recording with the telephone sucks xD

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jun 20 2013, 08:06 AM

Hehe! Hey man! I am seeing improvement biggrin.gif Good, very good! Now, the only thing you should work on, would be the bends that are happening when bending downwards. You see, your hand and wrist are moving nicely when you bend up but you are using your fingers when bending down smile.gif That has to go away laugh.gif Better pitch control as I can see. Now, I will ask you to keep tinkering with this one and in the mean time, I was thinking of throwing another one at you - what do you think?

Sending me videos is DEFINITELY the way to go biggrin.gif Let's keep at this, ok?

Cosmin

Posted by: Kimiko Jun 20 2013, 04:16 PM

Sure thing man i'll keep practicing this according to your advice.

And yeah sure i want a new one xD

We'll keep this videos on youtube going...we can both see mistakes and places to improve in them.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jun 21 2013, 07:35 AM

Most definitely wink.gif

Here's one that requires a bit more attention - you will have to teach your fingers how to properly bend up to a certain pitch and then hit that note, having in mind that you need to have the correct pitch established wink.gif

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Phrase-Book-Pre-Bends/

How does it look like?

Cosmin

Posted by: Kimiko Jun 21 2013, 09:19 AM

Sounds epic...i'll give it a go and come back with an awesome video biggrin.gif

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jun 22 2013, 07:26 AM

That's the spirit, cowboy! Bring it on! biggrin.gif

Posted by: Kimiko Jun 25 2013, 08:20 PM

Heeeey, biggrin.gif

Just so you don't think i'm slacking here's what i have so far...it still needs work but my fingers kinda hurt so i stopped for awhile...those 22nd and 19th (pre)bends are killing me xD


Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jun 25 2013, 09:42 PM

Hey there brother, you are definitely no slacker!!

Although, I would like to ask you the following thing - can you re-record this at 75% of the tempo? smile.gif Please focus on:

- reaching the correct pitches of all bends
- vibrating large, equal and from the wrist
- playing as clean and controlled as possible

I am curious to see if lowering the tempo can help you control things better, if not, I will prepare something for ya wink.gif

Cosmin

Posted by: Kimiko Jun 29 2013, 11:51 AM

Hey Cosmin!

Here it is, the slowed up version at 75% tempo...you're right playing at a slower tempo does post a certain difficulty but i kind of made sense out of that saying :"You can't play fast if you can't play slow" biggrin.gif


Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jun 29 2013, 01:41 PM

Hehe biggrin.gif We're slowly getting there wink.gif

Mate I will come up with a video in which I will talk to you a bit about vibrato,timing and muting unwanted noises, so stay tuned!

Cosmin

Posted by: Kimiko Jul 1 2013, 10:06 AM

Awesome can't wait...wanted a new lesson biggrin.gif

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jul 1 2013, 10:38 AM

Hehe, check this one out first wink.gif


Posted by: Kimiko Jul 2 2013, 09:12 PM

Well damn...this is really annoying you know. biggrin.gif
I mean...yeah the down bends where i need to pull my wrist basically are sounding like they should having enough power overall for now...but the up bends, the ones i need to push my wrist for the love of whatever are not working... my wrist is rigid and the motion is no where near where it should...

I've always wanted to be able to do those awesome vibrato bends but my wrist just syncopates when it should be fluid..

Working on it.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jul 3 2013, 07:41 AM

QUOTE (Kimiko @ Jul 2 2013, 08:12 PM) *
Well damn...this is really annoying you know. biggrin.gif
I mean...yeah the down bends where i need to pull my wrist basically are sounding like they should having enough power overall for now...but the up bends, the ones i need to push my wrist for the love of whatever are not working... my wrist is rigid and the motion is no where near where it should...

I've always wanted to be able to do those awesome vibrato bends but my wrist just syncopates when it should be fluid..

Working on it.


Working on it is exactly what I wanted to hear wink.gif It takes time, like any other thing which needs a strong basis - for instance, I discovered articulation in 2005 - at least that's when I became obsessed with the idea laugh.gif and since then, every bend and vibrato that I did was a step on my way to perfect this technique, so give it time, be persistent and ambitious and I will be here to help out wink.gif

Posted by: Kimiko Jul 3 2013, 09:30 PM

Hey Cosmin,

So as we spoke on FB i'm having trouble with my bending adding vibrato and playing clean and powerful. Although i realize it takes time i'm under the constant impression that i'm not doing something(or anything) right. So i shot a little vid here with what i have so far.


Notes:
- The ticking you're hearing is just my watch that was standing behind my phone (genius i know biggrin.gif)
- As you can clearly see i'm having trouble, i'm not really sure if the technique i'm using is a correct one
- If i perform a bend and i try using vibrato the string will start slowly to slide off from the tip of my finger. A guick way to prevent this would be to press harder but i'm not entirely sure that is what i really need to do.
- And YES my voice is muffled mainly because of the nerves i had at that time. biggrin.gif (I hate talking once i'm at a certain stress level)

Taking your advice and trying to take it slow, nice and easy...but i'm greedy, i know that hurts my development but i'm trying to keep on track with what you say.

Cheers

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jul 4 2013, 11:33 AM

Hey buddy! It doesn't look that bad to me - I will of course answer in a video, because writing is so yesterday laugh.gif


Posted by: Kimiko Jul 5 2013, 07:53 PM

Hey Cosmin...had another go at the pre-bends lesson. Here it is.

Notes:
This is about the best i can do with my current bending skill
Please forget my little mistake at 0:47...forgot where i needed to go on the neck for a second biggrin.gif


Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jul 6 2013, 08:25 AM

Hey mate! We're on the good way here smile.gif I will make the following suggestions:

- your thumb is not anchoring the neck when bending - this will offer GREAT support, control and strength wink.gif
- the vibrato should be wider and more relaxed - try to vibrate with the tempo of the melody - usually the vibrato is relative to that as well

Now, time well spent on this track and conscious practicing will improve your skills, so don't rush smile.gif Take your time and meanwhile, so that you won't get bored - I have a challenge for you smile.gif



Can you sort out BY EAR the theme starting at the beginning until 0:25? smile.gif It is a very expressive passage and I would be the happiest dude if you could sort it out and record it, focusing on articulation, clean playing and timing. Record without a metronome at first smile.gif I would like to hear how expressive you can be without any time constraining instrument.

Let me know if it's too challenging and I will think of something else, but, I say this is a great exercise which helped my articulation and sense of expression A LOT - I was studying with George Patranoiu - I think you have heard of him and he made me play this continuously until I managed to make it sound as expressive as possible - proved really worthy!

Posted by: Kimiko Jul 6 2013, 07:47 PM

Hey Cosmin,

This is a pretty awesome challenge you have thrown my way.. biggrin.gif

Like it so much I tried to record it smile.gif



Personal notes:
- Timing issues...by itself it's not bad but compared with Vai's version the beginning is rushed
- String mute fail at the first bend at 0:02

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jul 7 2013, 03:06 PM

Hey mate smile.gif

As a general observation - you need to be smoother and make the vibrato wider! I have recorded a little video with my version and I would like to share it here so that you may see how I treated the situation without the metronome:



I suggest you to focus on each and every detail and try not to be that harsh when playing - smoothness and creating an atmosphere are the key elements in this theme smile.gif Deal?

Posted by: Kimiko Jul 10 2013, 08:17 PM

Hey Cosmin,

Had another go at the Steve Vai piece. This is what i got so far



Sounds a bit better than the previous one i think...also tried to get closer with my hands and kinda failed with the angle biggrin.gif

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jul 11 2013, 07:20 AM

OH YES!
Much better!!

My friend, now, the remaining thing would be the note length and the stops - listen to my take and hunt for the stops, then record again with those stops implemented, ok? Oh, and the first bend, be more precise with it - it reaches the correct pitch, but I can feel a teeny weeny hesitation biggrin.gif

I think you did a very good job!

Posted by: Kimiko Jul 11 2013, 07:45 PM

Hey Cosmin,

Here is take nr 3 after taking into consideration your latest notes:


Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jul 12 2013, 09:27 AM

It's better and better with every take, man!

Now two things which I will point out:

- the first two bends are a bit to slow - they should be more direct wink.gif
- the vibrato is too rushed sometimes

You see how many details we can find in a relatively simple theme? smile.gif If you like this approach in building up your expressive side/ articulation technique, please let me know and I will see that you get more themes biggrin.gif Especially VOCAL themes - that you will have to sort out and play on the guitar wink.gif It's the best exercise for becoming expressive I could ever hope to find and it works like a charm!

Posted by: Kimiko Jul 12 2013, 12:12 PM

I'm not really sure i'm ready for vocal transposition on guitar honestly. I mean i wouldn't know where to start.

What should i do now? smile.gif

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jul 13 2013, 01:07 PM

QUOTE (Kimiko @ Jul 12 2013, 11:12 AM) *
I'm not really sure i'm ready for vocal transposition on guitar honestly. I mean i wouldn't know where to start.

What should i do now? smile.gif


A video by ME laugh.gif will tell you a thing or two on what to start working on, to develop your skills in that direction and in the mean time, how about this lesson here:

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/The-Voice-Of-Your-Guitar/

Let me know if it's too difficult, k? We can always go for something more approachable - this one is fairly long and it has A LOT of details - but that's the whole idea biggrin.gif

Posted by: Kimiko Jul 13 2013, 01:53 PM

The sound of it and i don't thing it's too difficult for me!! biggrin.gif

I promise i'll take my time and not rush it though. This is just too awesome!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jul 13 2013, 02:23 PM

Glad to know you like it mate wink.gif We can tackle it in parts, so take care of the first one - record it and let's discuss smile.gif

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jul 15 2013, 09:24 PM

QUOTE (Kimiko @ Jul 13 2013, 12:53 PM) *
The sound of it and i don't thing it's too difficult for me!! biggrin.gif

I promise i'll take my time and not rush it though. This is just too awesome!


Got something more for ya wink.gif


Posted by: Kimiko Jul 17 2013, 08:22 PM

Rough week...biggrin.gif

Hey man,

I managed to record the first two parts see it below. I also made a few personal notes as you can see under the vid. I practiced it slow at first and gradually sped up. I'll come back as soon as i can with the other two parts in which i'll integrate your own feedback to this

Cheers!



Personal notes:
- Some bends are still not going to the proper pitch (i'll cover that in no time)
- I'm not as tensed as it would seem, or at least i can feel a pretty fluid motion
- Some volume issues (I'll cover that once i get a final version with all 4 parts)
- 0:57 i...messed up biggrin.gif i forgot where to go but quickly came back on track

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jul 18 2013, 12:41 PM

Hey broheim! Good job so far! You nailed these two parts well, from the perspective of their structure and I think you did a decent job in respect to the flow. Of course, what I want from you is total expression control and for that, goal number 1, 2, 3, 4 ...n is to nail ALL the bends in pitch and widen the vibrato.

Also, there are two more important aspects:

- those little bend/release notes in the beginning they are a bit faster - try to play over the original recording and see the actual feel - no worries, EVERYONE has problems with them biggrin.gif

- vibrate every note only after allowing it to breathe a little, at first, don't go in the vibrato right away, ok?

You are improving, my friend! Keep it up!

Cosmin

Posted by: Kimiko Jul 27 2013, 12:52 PM

well...this proved to be a bit harder than expected. I mean making a video that sounds decent enough and no major mistakes. Being a rather long video i had a bit of trouble to record it all in one go but the final result is rather decent.

so here it is:

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jul 28 2013, 03:16 PM

Hey mate smile.gif

Congrats for putting it all in one place! Now, we should look at the details:

- those tricky little bends are not ok yet - you should record against the original recording and see that they match perfectly
- the vibrato is not wide enough and you should let the notes breathe a little more before vibrating - the vibrato should be an extension that comes pretty smoothly into the scene smile.gif
- please focus on getting all the notes into pitch - for instance at 0:40 you are higher than the right pitch smile.gif
- the bends such as the one starting at 1:09 shouldn't be unison bends - they should be standing alone

Let's get these into shape and we'll see afterwards biggrin.gif

Cosmin

Posted by: Kimiko Aug 3 2013, 06:20 PM

Hey man,

Well...i had another go at it and came up with this, sorry for the bad lighting sad.gif
Also wish i could make it sound better...but i cannot seem to do that at the moment...


Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Aug 4 2013, 04:27 PM

Hey there my fellow countryman!

I think that the pitch reach is far better - aside 01:36 and 02:02 you touched all the notes where they were supposed to be - good call!

Now, the only problem, are those quirky bends at the beginning smile.gif As I said, everyone has a little problem with those so, no worries, you will just need a little more time to get them straight.

Now, aside from practicing this one I was going to ask if you would like to begin working on a new task so we can keep things fresh. Let me know and tell me if you need help with the quirky bends smile.gif

Cosmin

Posted by: Kimiko Aug 4 2013, 04:45 PM

YESSS!!! biggrin.gif

i would love to practice something new to work on.
Gimme gimme gimme biggrin.gif

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Aug 5 2013, 12:00 PM

Here's my suggestion smile.gif Let's isolate the first part of this lesson, and work on it until you get the quirky bends right - can you do a recording against one of my slowed down recordings? I mean literally record over it, until it sounds like one guitar instead of two smile.gif

And for the second task, how about this one? http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Slides-Bends/ It will work on your vibrato in such a way that you will be able to focus on the long notes again smile.gif If you feel like wanting something more rhythm oriented as well, let me know, ok?

Posted by: Kimiko Aug 25 2013, 12:16 PM

Ohh my gosh it's been a very long time, i'm sorry.

Here's some updates:
First the isolated video from the Voice, part 1 with both guitars over one another



Second the Shape of my heart - solo...well part of it anyway biggrin.gif definitely great ear training but i have to admit it is hard



As for Ben's video...heh...i've put it on hold...i can't access all the parts of the video to watch it slowed up but this Friday i'll renew the subscription biggrin.gif

Posted by: Kimiko Aug 26 2013, 07:00 AM

Hmm ...awkwardthe second vid is not showing...

here it is:

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Aug 26 2013, 10:17 AM

Hey man! Long time no see, but what I see is improvement!

I think you did a great job on articulation so far with these two vids - can you focus on recording that first part from 'The voice of your guitar' with the backing respecting what you did in the previous recording? biggrin.gif

And one with the theme from 'The shape of my heart' - against nothing smile.gif Into thin air and with as much feeling as possible? Do we have a deal?

Posted by: Kimiko Sep 23 2013, 05:47 PM

Hey Cosmin,

Been kind of busy lately at work with the new Rocksmith game coming out, we testers are stressed out and work alot, that's the main reason i haven't been around lately, 8-12 hours a day with the guitar and bass is a pain for my fingers. But i managed to record the "magical" 3 videos.

Some personal notes:
- at the Voice of your guitar.... i donno what's the matter it sounds worse than the last recording, the guitar was in tune but i think i forgot it, donno what to say it doesn't have the same feeling to it
- at Slides & Bends, there's a lot to work on (keep in mind that my fingers are killing me) biggrin.gif. Those slides and direct bends from the 7th fret up to the 14th i don't feel very stable on them

Now, i don't want to whine any more than i already did but...i recorded these two vids today and i donno, it feels like i'm losing my dexterity. That and...it seems like every time i turn on the camera, i'm bound to fail at some point, a lack of cursive playing if you want to call it like that. I took a brake from guitar-ing (new word tongue.gif ) on Saturday thinking i'll record on Sunday, but when i tried, i couldn't do anything, nothing sounded right.

I'm leaving the videos below, hope i didn't disappoint too bad, i also apologize for the bad lighting, trying to figure something out with that.

All the best,
Andrei






Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 24 2013, 11:13 AM

Mate smile.gif welcome back - I know what's happening, but since it's a lot to tell, I'll do it in a video, so stay tuned wink.gif

Here we go:


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