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Posted by: Jakub Luptovec May 9 2009, 07:05 PM

I myself am more of arpeggio/modal player, but now my band has gave me the role of composing custom solo for ROck you like a huricane by Scorpions. Since the whole song is based on pentatonic, I cant dwelve into modes too much (the background is just E,e,e,G,g,A,a,C,D,d, repeting till the end of time) and so I have to learn some pentatonic shredding licks.

One that appaled me was that syncopated zakk wildish lick with bending

-------10------------10------------10------------10-------|
--13b-----13-10-13b-----13-10-13b-----13-10-13b-----13-10-|
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I have been trying to master for a few months, but after few moments of practicing, my pinky started to hurt like hell, I was unable to play for several hours and that stupid lick is still slow and dirty as... when I begun:)

Anyone has some tips for practicing this kind of stuff?
Btw. any other cool (pentatonic is not cool..) pentatonic licks are welcome as well

Posted by: coffeeman May 9 2009, 07:45 PM

Hi Jakub,

Check out these cool lessons from Pablo Vazquez , he has some really nice pentatonic chops:

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guitar/pentatonic-rock-licks-1/

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guitar/pentatonic-rock-licks-part-2/

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guitar/pentatonic-rock-licks-part-2/

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/rhythm-guitar/black-label-society-style/

Posted by: ZakkWylde May 9 2009, 07:58 PM

THE PENTATONIC IS AWESOME! Especially for soloing!

I have no Idea about modes and arpeggios but I could tear your face of with some Pentatonic shreds, hehe^^

First of all: Use your index and ring finger for this lick!!! It's faster and makes the bend easier!
Now you can make variations of that lick, you could move it up in the scale (Ozzy Osbourne: No More Tears Solo) or you could use some tapping licks out of the pentatonic boxes and don't forget some wide bends with vibrato in the style of gary moore to take the tension out of the solo...

Posted by: lcsdds May 9 2009, 08:19 PM

Why can't you just write your own solo?

Posted by: kjutte May 9 2009, 08:21 PM

Posted by: Muris Varajic May 9 2009, 08:23 PM

Just a tip, play bended note on 13th fret with ring finger, not with pinky.

Posted by: AlexLion May 9 2009, 08:55 PM

Omg, of course if you do bends with pinky even with help from other fingers, pinky will just die after some time..

Edit- pentatonic IS cool!

Posted by: sted May 10 2009, 11:49 AM

yeah, its defo index and ring finger for this, G minor Pentatonic if im not mistaken!!

Posted by: Tolek May 10 2009, 11:56 AM

D minor Pentatonic.


Pentatonic is an awesome tool for rock soloing. Check out Paul Gilbert who uses it all the time and it sounds great. Or you can have a look at Muris´ http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/lessonseries/Pentatonic-Licks and realize how melodic Penatonics can sound.
Oh, I´d never use my pinky for such bends.

Posted by: sted May 10 2009, 12:12 PM

damn! Was getting mixed up with G minor box 4!

Posted by: Tolek May 10 2009, 12:19 PM

Happens.

Posted by: Pedja Simovic May 10 2009, 02:03 PM

Definitely bend with ring finger instead of pinky !

Posted by: Jesse May 10 2009, 02:40 PM

Just dont use the pinky on this one xD

Just dont use the pinky on this one xD

Posted by: Muris Varajic May 10 2009, 03:30 PM

Actually I was think of bended 13th fret only, not regular one,
I would use index for 1oth fret and ring and pinky for 13th,
bend with ring.

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic May 10 2009, 11:16 PM

No point using pinky as everyone said, use ring finger since it is free

Posted by: Jose Mena May 11 2009, 08:18 PM

I wouldn't use the pinky at all for this one

Posted by: Frederik May 11 2009, 08:24 PM

Looks like a lot of people in here needs to do some pinky training muhahaha
i could play this lick for ages with my sweet piano pinky

-Frederik

Posted by: AlexLion May 11 2009, 08:41 PM

I think it`s more of pinky endurance than strenght, because it is less used usually, so there are less calluses. If you are so tough, try to do some 2 whole tone bends with pinky on 22th fret for 10 minutes

Joking

Posted by: Frederik May 11 2009, 08:44 PM

U just costed me a pair of new strings

Posted by: djohnneay May 11 2009, 09:11 PM

I don't seem to have the same problem as you, can play the lick with both ringfinger and pinky.

Must say the ringfinger is easier though, so I prefer to play it that way.
I see most people do around here

OT : Is it just me or is it possible to get more posts on a page ? First I always thought maximum was 10, now its 20 ?

Posted by: Artemus May 12 2009, 12:07 PM

I'd prefer to play the bends with my ring finger - not that my pinky isn't up to the job but why make life harder?
..and pentatonics can be very cool with good use of patterns and interesting rhythm use, together with utilising the entire fretboard, not just one box shape, and incorporating bends/slides/vib - they can't not be cool. If you want to get fancier then use modal and pentatonic together