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Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 18 2012, 07:52 AM

Hey there mister Trey this here is YOUR thread feel free to use it and we can start with you telling me a little bit about what your musical goals are and if you would have some recorded materials, that would be even better

Cosmin

Posted by: TreyDeschamp May 18 2012, 05:00 PM

Hey Cosmin! Thanks so much for the help!

I honestly want to progress my skills to a higher level. I want to build the speed that it takes to play metalcore style solo's such as newer Children of Bodom or even Bullet for My Valentine style speed.

Along with that I want to being more accurate with my rhythm playing. It is a huge goal for me to start a band once I get to college just for fun but to do this I know I'm going to have to progress.

Once I get home tonight I;ll make a video for you to analyze where I am at.

Posted by: TreyDeschamp May 18 2012, 11:02 PM

Well, here goes nothing!

I already see mistakes in my timing.

I had to rush this video out because I have to head out to my father's house soon. The second little bit is a Bullet For My Valentine song I used to mess around with. Of course, I messed it up!

But hey, I'm learning here right?

Hopefully this gives you a little bit of an idea where I'm at.



P.S. Sorry for the end. I kind of didn't realize I kept going. I was messing around with speed runs before I made the video (I know, it's not that fast!) but still. Like I said in the video, "I need to work on bends."

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 19 2012, 11:37 AM

Hey there Trey, I can't see the vid, man can you try uploading the link again?

thank you

Cosmin

Posted by: TreyDeschamp May 19 2012, 01:20 PM

Sorry man, I tried to embed it. I'll just post a straight link and go from there.

Thanks man.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vUQ6WssnFI

Posted by: TreyDeschamp May 19 2012, 07:25 PM

So after practicing a beginner lesson and having some difficulty with it I just decided to go ahead and be honest.

I'm at a beginner level.

Also, I don't know much about theory so I'm really starting fresh. I have been trying to learn the notes of the fretboard though. Hopefully that will help me some.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 20 2012, 05:44 PM

My friend, you don't sound like a beginner at all. You got great tone and a very precise right hand - great timing and good tightness. You have a pretty good foundation for everything here Now, what you need, is a bit of arranging things

I think that we should divide our practice schedule into:

1) Technique - what's your favorite? And besides that articulation - bending and vibrato of course
2) Phrasing - analyzing lead lessons which contain interesting phrasing elements.
3) Rhythm - riffing will do for starting out
4) Theory - the language you need to speak

These should be the starting points now, after you tell me if this is ok with you, I shall choose a few lessons I want you to look over and start learning for each of the points stated above

In the mean time, any music/ guitar/ life related question can help out and if there is an answer I can provide, I'll most gladly help

Cosmin

Posted by: TreyDeschamp May 20 2012, 05:57 PM

That sounds awesome man!

As far as techniques the one's that I really want to start learning are:
1. Hammer-ons and pull-offs- eventually I want to work my way to some point of shred.
2. Sweep Picking- same reason as the last
3. Power Chord sliding- I'm just not very good at switching fast between certain power chords and sliding. I'll either slide too far, are too short.

I'm very open to ALL techniques though!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 21 2012, 02:23 PM

Great! Let's get to work than, shall we?

I got two assignments for ya:

For hammer on/ pull off development - http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Beginners-Corner-22-Hammer-On/ don't look at it like it's easy I suggest you perfect it so that we can start from the bottom up, as healthy as possible with building your technique

For power chord sliding - here's one which will work wonders http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Staccato-Power-Chords/

Let me know what you think and let's rock!

Cosmin

Posted by: TreyDeschamp May 21 2012, 04:27 PM

You gotta start somewhere right?

I'm down with those lessons. To be honest that lesson that you gave me from Ben has actually been on my mind.

The reason why I was worrying about the power chord slides is because of the Metal for Beginners lesson 1 by Pavel. That intro kicks my butt! I've been working on that and I just cant get that intro.

Anyway, I'll get to practicing those tonight! It might be a few days before I have a good take up due to this being finals week.

Thanks Cosmin!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 21 2012, 04:30 PM

Nothing to it my friend! I'm here for ya

Posted by: TreyDeschamp May 21 2012, 04:33 PM

Thanks man!

Also, I have a question. My video recording equipment is not that great but I do have a POD GX so that I can record through RockBand on my mac.

Is it okay if I throw some soundcloud links your way sometimes rather than video?

The only really good video recording material I have is my iphone but it's a hassle to set it up click a backing track and record. It also messes up my timing.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 21 2012, 04:38 PM

Sure mate no sweat, whatever is good for ya

Posted by: TreyDeschamp May 21 2012, 04:39 PM

I think I can get that hammer-on/pull-off lesson down by tomorrow but I'm not going to rush it.

Expect to see something from at least that in the next 2-3 days.

Posted by: TreyDeschamp May 21 2012, 11:51 PM

So much for the next few days

I got home a learned the lesson fairly quickly. I think I did well although I can see where the very last note on the first section screwed up a little (I couldn't get it to ring out).

I uploaded it to the REC board. Check it out and tell me what you think!
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=44495&b=1&st=0&p=0&#entry0

Posted by: TreyDeschamp May 22 2012, 02:48 AM

Also, I'm going to do another take of that hammer-on lesson because I know it isn't perfect but I wanted to get feedback quickly so I uploaded it to the REC (i'll probably do the same with the next).

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 22 2012, 10:54 PM

Hey Trey congrats again on a good take man! What you need to focus on for this one:

- equal attack for each note - that means that all your notes should have the same intensity in this case - regardless of the fingers used
- the timing was good but you hesitated slightly in some points

In my opinion, you must send a bit more time practicing this lesson and then taking it out to parade, so that it may be perfect!

let's see the next one

Cosmin

Posted by: TreyDeschamp May 22 2012, 10:59 PM

Oh I plan on it! The hammer-ons are so hard when there is no gain backing it up.

However, I know once I get it down it will sound great!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 22 2012, 11:01 PM

that's why I chose this lesson first - NO GAIN... without the proper pain

Posted by: TreyDeschamp May 23 2012, 12:28 AM

So your a jokster I can tell it is going to make me better, even if it is a beginner level lesson.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 23 2012, 07:40 AM

I will torment you a lot in the near future so, I have to take that off your mind by making you laugh at least

Posted by: TreyDeschamp May 23 2012, 12:23 PM

I'm planning to start working on that other lesson today.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 24 2012, 11:45 AM

Great Trey hit me when you're ready

Posted by: TreyDeschamp May 24 2012, 05:15 PM

Started working on the lesson yesterday. It feels very awkward. I don't feel very fluid witht the sturmming technique.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 25 2012, 02:57 PM

becoming a good rhythm guitarist means you must be able to understand grooves, break them down and play them sometimes almost on the spot Strumming through all sorts of patterns will have an important role in leading you to the top

Work work work! ...and when you think you're done...work some more

Cosmin

Posted by: TreyDeschamp May 26 2012, 03:26 PM

So things are looking good with this lesson. I don't want to rush the take though because I want to get it right. Stay tuned

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 28 2012, 03:38 PM

Take your time amigo

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Jun 4 2012, 04:57 PM

Hey Cosmin.

Just wanted to check in with you. It's been a busy week so I haven't been able to record a take but the lesson is coming along nicely.

I'll try to get it to you within the next few days.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jun 4 2012, 06:11 PM

Hola Trey! Sure man, I'm here

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Jun 16 2012, 03:41 AM

I'm sorry this has taken so long Cosmin.

So things unexpectedly came up but I'm going to go ahead and give the lesson a shot tomorrow morning.

Expect something then

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jun 16 2012, 10:44 AM

Hey Trey! Yeah, man, I totally know how life swings by and mocks our plans take it easy mate, do a thorough job and let me know when you're done

Cosmin

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Jul 10 2012, 05:27 PM

Hey Cosmin, it's been a while. I know I keep pushing this lesson back. At first it was life getting in the way. Now I'm just getting pissed off with the lesson.

I just can't get it down. My timing has gotten better with it but I can get the end right and it's driving me insane.

Is there anyway we can just do a different lesson and maybe come back to this one?

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jul 13 2012, 11:32 AM

Howdy Trey, if you feel like it, sure Let's do this, but what do you have in mind? I want you to think about one direction which you feel like you need to improve towards and I will pick some good lessons from where you can choose I think it's crucial that you like the one you will work on

let's rock

Cosmin

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Jul 14 2012, 05:11 PM

Thanks Cosmin,

Right now I want to build solid lead playing.

I want to get faster and accurate.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jul 15 2012, 09:50 AM

Ahoy Trey!

I stumbled upon this lesson, which features great phrasing and tone control I think it's a good entry point for lead playing

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/neoclassical_solo_for_beginners/

What do you think?

Cosmin

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Jul 15 2012, 03:45 PM

This is completely hilarious to me!

I was recently looking at this lesson a few days ago and actually started learning it. I'm definitely down for learning this one!

My vibrato is kind of......plain, so I'm going to take my time on this one. DEFINITELY not as long as I've been taking though

Awesome choice Cosmin.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jul 16 2012, 09:05 AM

Very much glad you like it Trey This means you will do a hell of a job with it Let's rock then, shall we?

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Jul 16 2012, 03:12 PM

Ready to do so!

Stay tuned!

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Jul 16 2012, 06:46 PM

I must say, this lesson is going well. I feel like I'm getting a very good grasp on this one. It feels so smooth and is sounding fairly fluid.

I think I'll have a take in the next day or so.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jul 17 2012, 04:36 PM

Glad to know mate! You know, when you love a piece of music, the dedication you put in the learning effort is multiple times greater Please, tell me whenever you don't feel like learning something, ok? We can always find alternatives for things

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Jul 17 2012, 04:54 PM

Sounds good Cosmin!

I went ahead a finished up my take on the Staccato Power Chords lesson. It sounds awful when played because I can't get Garageband to pick up palm muting and I have not one clue how to mix or master a track.

http://soundcloud.com/trey-deschamp/staccato

Tell me what you think! I might try to get a video take in and edit it up for the REC program.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jul 17 2012, 05:39 PM

Go for the REC The timing was great! Let's see what feedback you will receive then you can move on to the next lesson

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Jul 17 2012, 05:43 PM

So without it being mastered or anything you think it sounds alright?

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Jul 17 2012, 08:30 PM

I uploaded my take. Curious as to what your grade will be

I recorded a quick take of the first half of the Neoclassical lesson.

I wasn't going for perfection. I wanted to give you an idea of where I am so that you could hear mistakes or find good qualities.

That scale run definitely needs work although I fee that I'm getting a stronger grasp on it quicker.

http://soundcloud.com/trey-deschamp/neocalssical-solo-for

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jul 18 2012, 07:56 AM

Hey Trey! This is GOOD progress man You got good timing and the flow is almost there - you see how the notes flow into each other in the original take? That's what you should aim for, as you are 80% there Otherwise, polish up the faster passages and you're there my friend

Looking forward for the next take - I think we'll be ready pretty quickly with this one!

Cosmin

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Jul 18 2012, 12:11 PM

I'm hoping to have at least a full run through up by the end of the day. It definitely won't be the final take as I'm a perfectionist.

I'd just like to get it in to you so you can see what's going on.

I'm getting the speed run better, I think my main focus on this one needs to actually be my accuracy when it comes to hitting the notes as well as vibrato.

Which brings me to a question, along with this lesson, could we maybe work on vibrato? I was thinking of working on Ben's Vibrato Odyssey series. My vibrato definitely needs work and I feel to get that nice sound out of the notes I need a solid vibrato.

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Jul 18 2012, 06:17 PM

http://soundcloud.com/trey-deschamp/neocalssical-solo-scale-run

I made a take of that scale run so that you could see how it's coming along. I think it's very good but it could get a little bit better.

It's at the actual time. Tell me what you think!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jul 19 2012, 10:14 AM

Hey Trey! I love the fact that you are a perfectionist and I think that the run is ok at this point but it is a bit rigid - it needs more flow somehow. Try to work more with the backing track and that flow will come for certain

Ben's series are great! I totally agree on tackling those Shall we start with the first one?

Cosmin

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Jul 19 2012, 02:42 PM

I actually went ahead and started lesson one of ben's series yesterday. It's a quick lesson but it is going to take me some time to master. I'm having trouble getting my guitar to sustain the right way.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jul 23 2012, 02:05 PM

It's either a problem linked to the guitar or to the fact that you are not yet used with this sort of phrasing. Which one is the right guess?

Ben's vibrato lessons are great, so let's see where we can get with them, shall we? Anything else you got on your mind, regarding a particular thing which you would like to learn?

Cosmin

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Jul 23 2012, 02:39 PM

I think we are on the right track. Lead METAL practice and then some practical technique training is doing me good.

I actually think the answer to your question is neither. When I'm just playing the guitar the notes ring out. When I connect to my computer to record the lesson, the notes aren't fully picked up.

Im thinking that garageband doesn't pick up certain frequencies.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jul 24 2012, 08:42 AM

If you are MAC user, I surely recommend Logic Audio - I used the PC interface and it rocks!

I have never used Garageband so I don't have any experience with it, but Logic is surely good Can you get your hands on it, mate?

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Jul 24 2012, 02:50 PM

I can definitely try although I don't know how expensive it is.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jul 25 2012, 07:56 AM

I suggest you first try the demo and see what you think of it There's also another approach, described in this little video here

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Jul 27 2012, 05:00 PM

The problem that I see with this (keep in mind I've only seen half of the video) is that after 30 days it isn't free anymore. I don't have the money to get the full version of this.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jul 28 2012, 07:44 AM

Hey mate watch the whole video and first of all try to record something using the advice given in the movie. If the results are good, then it is a good time to ask yourself if you want to buy it. But first, try it

How's playing, otherwise? Do you maybe have a take that I can see with the vibrato lessons?

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Aug 27 2012, 01:21 PM

Hey Cosmin,

Sorry it's been a while. My senior year of high school just started two weeks ago so I've been very busy. The week before that (the week I last posted) I had to go on a team training trip.

No I do not have a take of Ben's Vibrato Odyssey because I can get garageband to sustain the notes. I'd play it through my amp but it died on me.

Either way, I still am practicing the neoclassical lesson. I'll be starting to record it within the next week for you.

Stay tuned

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Aug 27 2012, 03:32 PM

Hello Trey Well, as long as you're practicing, things are ok, if you stop that, well that's when the problem arises I'm waiting for the take and any other questions you might have in the mean time

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Aug 28 2012, 02:08 PM

I'll be trying to record at take today.

I'm essentially done with the lesson. In the mean time, could we maybe start a lesson on metalcore riffing. Keep in mind I'll only be able to drop to D.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Aug 28 2012, 06:44 PM

Hey Trey, well, whatever I will shoot your way, you are always free to play in drop D, but if you want to submit a REC, then I think you will need to use the original tuning. How about this one? -> http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Killswitch-Engage-Style/ I know you like it Tell me if it's too difficult. Ok? I chose it because when you like something, you are more prone to nailing it

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Aug 28 2012, 06:49 PM

I'm down for that one! I'm in the process of selling my pride and joy ESP so hopefully when I do sell it and I get a new guitar I'll be able to submit a REC take.

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Aug 28 2012, 08:58 PM

Here it is!

I'll be doing a REC take later.

http://soundcloud.com/trey-deschamp/neocalssical-solo-for-2

Tell me what you think. It's the best that I could do.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Aug 29 2012, 07:56 AM

Hey Trey, this is NOT bad at all! The bends and vibrato could be smoother and it could use a bit more groove, but it is technically correct We are taking things at the interpretation level here

Would you be up for a take that has this correct approach you already nailed AND the interpretation?

What are you planning to get?

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Aug 29 2012, 12:37 PM

For sure! Before I saw this I ended up throwing it up on the REC. The only problems that everyone has seen so far is my vibrato which is something I've already known that I need to work on. I'm to comfortable with using one finger and it doesn't sound as fluid or strong.

I'm planning on getting an ESP EC-1000 deluxe. I need something without a floyd rose. I need to be able to tune down and my floyd rose doesn't allow me to do this.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Aug 30 2012, 09:44 AM

A fixed bridge will always do justice I promised myself not to get floyd rose guitars ever Anyway, working on your vibrato should be a constant pursuit and thus, I was thinking we should start that too - what do you think?

This one would be great to begin with: http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Bens-Vibrato-Odyssey/

Cosmin

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Aug 30 2012, 01:45 PM

Already finished that one Cosmin

I tried to record a take for you to hear but the sustain cuts out. I think it's my settings in garageband although I know nothing about tampering with settings/mixing other than adjusting my amp.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Aug 30 2012, 02:10 PM

Sorry mate, I totally forgot It's a bit difficult to keep track of everyone's progress sometimes Well, I say - why not send me a video having the sound taken with the cam, instead of the Garage Band. It'll help when we work on building technique

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Aug 30 2012, 02:13 PM

I can try but it'll probably be the same thing. I have to play through my computer because my cab shut down randomly. My head unit works but the cab is done for.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Aug 30 2012, 02:36 PM

Darn! Try it What do we got to lose?

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Aug 30 2012, 02:48 PM

Absolutely nothing. All we can do is gain. I'll record a take and upload it to soundcloud so you can take a listen.



By the way, when will I be getting a REC grade from you on my latest take?

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Aug 30 2012, 03:28 PM

Right away I forgot to grade

Done!

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Aug 30 2012, 03:30 PM

Good stuff!

Here is the clip so you can hear the cutoff.

http://soundcloud.com/trey-deschamp/bens-vibrato-odyssey-1-demo-1

I have no clue how to change it. Some takes are better give or take but here is a quick example of what I'm talking about.

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Aug 30 2012, 07:34 PM

Well, I decided to go ahead and try and record it through my webcam so there is no soundcloud clip to go with it.

The audio may not be so great but I'll be uploading it to the REC program. I've got a nice handle on the vibrato from that.

Question, could you possible explain to me the scales that are being used in the lessons you refer to me as well as how they apply? I'd like to not only learn to play the lesson but learn to understand the lesson itself. Like why the scale is being used and how I could apply what I'm learning to my playing.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Aug 31 2012, 07:47 AM

Great! I'll be on it once you put it up

Sure thing! I find it VERY important to be able to extract a concept and use it in your own playing later on. First things first, we will tackle the theoretical aspects of each scale and I will ask you questions then, extrapolated from those How does that sound? In this way, I will make sure that you have understood what's going on behind the playing and that you can apply those concepts in your playing - at least theoretically. Understanding a theoretical aspect does not consequentially lead to using that concept immediately - inspiration has to kick in at some point and for that, you need to help your subconscious mind by listening to A LOT of music containing that specific element you are aiming for

Please let me know if there's any particular lesson on which you'd like to start this procedure

Cosmin

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Aug 31 2012, 03:54 PM

That sounds awesome! Like the threads title says. It's a metalcore program. If it helps out my metal core stye of playing I'm down to learn it. I will say that I think it is important to implement blues techniques in here and there with metal since metal is so heavily based off of blues.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 2 2012, 08:51 PM

Great - chose a lesson which you are working on or one you like and let's start the dissection!

Cosmin

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Sep 3 2012, 05:12 PM

I think sticking to the Killswitch Lesson would be good!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 4 2012, 03:04 PM

Alright! Well, all of the stuff here is actually a combo between the minor pentatonic scale and the minor scale - they always go well together hand in hand and if you want that extra punch you can include the blue note and combine the minor scale with the blues scale.

Now, first thing, the main riff is based on the pentatonic shapes - can you spot them ?

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Sep 4 2012, 11:02 PM

Do you mean the minor scale and the blues scale?

Give me a little time to analyze the scales and I'll get back to you on where the shapes are!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 5 2012, 07:53 AM

In this lesson we only have the natural minor and the minor pentatonic scales combined, but I was saying that the blues scale usually goes well hand in hand with the natural minor scale

Take your time mate

Cosmin

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Sep 5 2012, 10:45 PM

Awesome!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 6 2012, 08:08 AM

In the 'chorus' part, you will notice the nice balance obtained by mixing the natural minor with the 6/8 time signature and the open strings theme This is ALWAYS a winner! Too bad I haven't thought of it before the dudes in Killswitch did it

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Sep 6 2012, 10:29 PM

So are most of their songs based on the minor pentatonic and natural pentatonic scales?

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 7 2012, 07:33 AM

Out of what I know, yes and also some Phyrgian here and there In respect to the scales used, they are not that innovative - they popularized this concept of brutal music having anthemic choruses which everyone could sing This has proven to be their success recipe!

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Sep 7 2012, 06:51 PM

Awesome! Now what is this 6/8 time signature you were talking about and how would I use these scales to make a riff or a solo?

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 8 2012, 01:42 PM

Hey Trey,

the 6/8 time signature will have 6 8th notes instead of 4 quarter notes - it's the waltz groove. Check out the chorus part in the middle of the lesson to feel the pulse.

Well, if you combine notes belonging to these scales you can come up with riffs. My advice is to get the sound of these scales very well into your mind and then understand how they are harmonized. Once you nail these things you will have a variety of tools to work with. What say you? Does harmonizing sound familiar to you?

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Sep 9 2012, 06:42 PM

Will do Cosmin!

I'm not very familiar with harmonizing.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 10 2012, 09:20 AM

Hey Trey,

Harmonizing means to build a chord from each step of a scale using only the notes from that scale.

If for instance we have the C major scale (C D E F G A B C) and we know the formulas for major, minor and diminished chords:

Major - 1 3 5
Minor - 1 b3 5
Diminished - 1 b3 b5

...we will obtain the following chords in this particular order: Cmaj Dmin Emin Fmaj Gmaj Amin Bdiminished Cmajor

These are the chords we use to create chord progressions using the notes of C major

Can you please do the same drill for the G major scale?

Cosmin

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Sep 12 2012, 12:39 AM

So for the G Major scale it would be:

(G A B C D E F G)

As far as which chords to use or how to pick numbers for the:

Major Scale
Diminished Scale
Minor Scale

I have no clue what to do. Below is what you gave to me as an example but I had no clue what to do.

Major - 1 3 5
Minor - 1 b3 5
Diminished - 1 b3 b5

...we will obtain the following chords in this particular order: Cmaj Dmin Emin Fmaj Gmaj Amin Bdiminished Cmajor

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 13 2012, 08:30 AM

Trey The G major scale is : G A B C D E F# G - you apply the w w h w w w h formula to obtain it. By this, I mean that between:

G and A there's a whole tone - w
A and B - whole tone
B and C - half tone - h
C and D - whole tone
D and E - whole tone
E and F# - whole tone
F# and G - half tone

The G major chord is formed by using the 1 3 5 steps of the G major scale. This means G B D, right?
The G minor chord is formed by using the 1 b3 5 steps of the G major scale. This means G Bb D, right? - the G minor does not belong to the G major scale, so as you observe, we had to alter the 3rd step in order to obtain that chord.
The G diminished is formed by using the 1 b3 b5 steps -> G Bb Db - once again, altering the 3rd and 5th step to obtain it.

Now, when harmonizing a scale we must keep in mind that the notes making up the chords must belong only to that scale, ok?

I will do it for G major and I will ask you to do it for the D major scale

Gmaj Amin Bmin Cmaj Dmaj Emin F#diminished Gmaj

Please let me know if it's clear now

Cosmin

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Sep 21 2012, 04:49 PM

So for D it would be:

Dmaj Emin F#min Gmaj Amaj Bmin C#Diminished Dmaj?

Does the formula have to be this way? Like for example, could the formula read:

Dmin Emin F#Diminished Gmaj Amaj Bmaj C#Diminished Dmaj?

I'm just trying to grasp this concept.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 22 2012, 05:16 PM

This is correct:

Dmaj Emin F#min Gmaj Amaj Bmin C#Diminished Dmaj

But the formula stays this way in the case of D major, because the chords in the other formula can't belong to D major as the notes making them up don't belong to D major

It's like that mate - one try for let's say.... Bb major?

Cosmin

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Sep 26 2012, 02:29 PM

I'm having a hard time figuring this one out but I think I have the basic concept. Maybe we could move on to something else?

I just got my guitar out of the shop. I had it intonated and set up for Drop C tuning so I should be good to get some of these lessons in.

I was really digging your metal metrics series. Maybe we could hit that one up?

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 27 2012, 11:20 AM

Hey Trey, sure we can! It's always good to have some practical part going on in the same time with the theory!

How about hitting that KSE lesson? Let me know if it's too difficult for ya!

Cosmin

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Sep 27 2012, 12:53 PM

I'm up for the challenge. I think it's a little past my skill level, but you've got to start somewhere right?

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 28 2012, 09:40 AM

Hey Trey, let's see a recording at about 75% of the actual speed, eh?

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Sep 28 2012, 01:01 PM

I can definitely try and do that! It'll take a little time being that quarterly exams are approaching and I am in the thick of the Cross Country season. When I find time I'll definitely do it!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 29 2012, 12:07 PM

Please do, mate! Focus on timing and tightness - at this tempo, you should get it perfect

If, in the mean time you encounter any troubles, please let me know!

Cosmin

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Dec 4 2012, 04:01 AM

Hey Cosmin!

Sorry I've been MIA from the music scene lately. With Cross Country finally ended I'm ready to get back to it.

I kind of fell off with the KSE lesson. I'll probably pick it up later but as for now I very much would like to work on Meta. I love the song and am super excited to hopefully get to learn it and then get feedback from the guy that made it.

Sound okay?

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Dec 4 2012, 08:53 AM

Hello Trey! Glad to have you back mate I have nothing against that, but I want you to finish it if you start it And pick up the KSE lesson afterwards as it's a bit more difficult than this one.

Deal?

Cosmin

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Dec 5 2012, 06:28 PM

Sounds like a plan to me!

I'll be tinkering with the KSE lesson here and there until I eventually get it down. I just don't want to get frustrated with it and not want to continue on with it!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Dec 6 2012, 08:25 AM

You have no reason to get frustrated Trey - are you in a competition that you haven't told me about?

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Jan 17 2013, 12:13 AM

Hey C-man!

Sorry I keep going MIA on you. Every time I get free to practice hard again I get caught up with something.

I'm still practicing the KSE lesson (sorry it is going so slow) but I figured maybe we could start working with minor scales? I've always been told the minor scale and its associates are what metal is based on.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jan 17 2013, 10:32 AM

Hey Trey Well, life doesn't always allow us to keep following our plans eh? Hmmm, should it be a rhythm or a lead based lesson? What are you aiming for, aside the fact that it has to be based on a minor scales?

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Jan 18 2013, 03:18 AM

Both.

I want to learn how to write metalcore and I think learning how to use Minor scales and scales that go with it would allow me to write music better.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jan 18 2013, 09:49 AM

Well then Let's choose two of them

For lead - http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/B-Minor-Ballad-Solo/ This one should keep you busy - I want a lot of focus on the details, k? It's got a lot of articulation going on - bends and vibrato

For rhythm - this one should be easier than the KSE lesson - http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Metalcore-I-Trivium-Style/ but also nice and packed with metalcore elements.

How much time would you need for two nice takes?

Cosmin

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Jan 18 2013, 07:02 PM

I think I could get the Trivium lesson done in a few days. I've actually had it bookmarked so its nice to actually have a reason to start it.

Im going to take a little longer on the lead lesson because I would like to actually get it right

Awesome suggestions, I'm looking forward to getting them started!

Also, I bought 'Seeds' the other day! A couple of my buddies loved the EP and bought their copies as well. Journey is my favorite so far!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jan 18 2013, 07:03 PM

Thanks man You just put a smile on my face
Looking forward to hear the takes

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Jan 18 2013, 07:14 PM

Hopefully you'll do a lesson on it like you did for Meta (hint hint )

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Jan 20 2013, 02:16 PM

Hey Cosmin,

Loving the B minor ballad solo suggestion. I'm getting the bends down well. It's taking me a little while to get the sweeping motion section down. I realize it's not a full sweep but it's confusing me when I play it for some reason so it'll take a little while.

I think I may be recording my take of Meta soon as well so I'd love to see what you think of that!

Just thought I'd check in and not leave you in the dark like I've been doing

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jan 20 2013, 05:00 PM

Hey Trey - thanks for the update bud, glad to know you love the lessons, so let's see some guitar playing action!!

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Jan 23 2013, 11:29 PM

Update!

So I'm starting the Trivium lesson in between recording Meta and the B minor solo. The legato section of the B minor solo is absolutely killing me

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jan 24 2013, 09:22 AM

Don't rush it mate Be patient with yourself and things will sort themselves out What do you think about coming up with takes for each lesson at 75% of the original speed, but playing them PERFECT ?

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Jan 24 2013, 01:52 PM

I've never really thought about it but I can see where it would be beneficial!

I could try and do that.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jan 24 2013, 02:07 PM

First of all - it will help you prove to yourself that you master that lesson in every aspect, aside from bringing it to the ultimate speed It is a huge motivation - trust me - that's the point where you will realize that practice is the only thing that separates you from your destination !

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Feb 17 2013, 11:13 PM

Hey man,

Just a little update for you!

I've been working on the B minor solo a lot. I'm having a tough time with the legato portion of the piece.

I'm also in the process of selling my ESP Alexi ( ) so I haven't been able to work on anything in Drop tunings for a while.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Feb 17 2013, 11:16 PM

Hey buddy no problem, but, I would be curious to see a take of that B minor solo - as it is now Don't worry if it ain't perfect - I will help out, ok?

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Feb 17 2013, 11:26 PM

Sounds good. I have to wait for my brother to give me my POD GX back so I can record a take but it shouldn't be too long.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Feb 17 2013, 11:30 PM

Alright bro, hit me up when you have it and tell me, what else are you practicing these days?

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Feb 18 2013, 12:32 AM

I've actually been analyzing the Leads and Riffs Rockhouse Method DVD. It is the one that features Bullet for my Valentine's lead guitarist Michael Paget. He's my favorite guitarist and I've had the DVD for a while but I've just recently startedexploring his playing style.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Feb 18 2013, 08:50 AM

Very nice! I'd be curious to see a riff Will you show me something?

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Feb 18 2013, 05:42 PM

Can do! I have my ESP in Drop-C for another week so I could probably get a (decent) video of me playing a few of their riffs! You should check him out if you haven't already. My Dad doesn't usually compliment the bands that I like because he thinks they are all the same. However, my Dad even noticed that he is very bluesy and pays close attention to his bending.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Feb 18 2013, 05:58 PM

I'd like to see your versions for cetain, but say, man, is your dad a player too???

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Feb 24 2013, 05:16 PM

Oh yes he is! He's been playing for over 20 years. He raised me on blues, rock and metal. Definitely a guitar guy

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Feb 25 2013, 02:42 PM

Awesome! So, you have your own private instructor at home Is it easy to work with him?

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Feb 25 2013, 05:48 PM

It is sometimes. He's a lot better than me and can pinpoint flaws in playing well and I usually take his criticism the wrong way

I have a question about maybe changing the route of my mentoring...

I'd like to stay with metal but I'd also like to branch off to other styles to try and build my own playing style rather than copy my favorite artists.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Feb 25 2013, 11:19 PM

I hoped you'd say that at some point because that's what we all should be aiming towards! What other styles would you like to incorporate?

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Feb 26 2013, 01:07 AM

I'd like to incorporate blues, jazz, and darker sounding music as well as get a good understanding of minor and diminished scales.

Not to sound all depressed or something but I really like dark music. I feel it teems with emotion.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Feb 26 2013, 08:49 AM

Gotcha mate!

Well, let's see what we can do about getting you acquainted with the diminished context for starting out. Please take a look over the lessons below and choose your favorite. It would be a good idea to tackle them all (speed is not important here, but the shapes and the correlation of the arpeggios and scales with the harmonies), simply to get your ears acquainted to the sounds and understand more about contextual situations regarding this concept

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guitar/diminished-7-workout-part-1/
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guitar/diminished-7-workout-part-2/
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guitar/diminished-arpeggio-in-a-mixolydian-world/
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Diminished-Responsibility/
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Diminished-Arpeggio-Madness/

How does this sound to you? After that I would suggest picking up a track - a backing from these lessons would be cool I think - and applying the concepts you have understood from these lessons.

Cosmin

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Feb 27 2013, 03:09 AM

Yes. The are great. I really like the 2nd and 3rd videos.

One thing though, in the introductory section of the 2nd video you suggested, Muris talks about learning the notes of each scale used to be able to transition smoothly.

My question is, how do I actually learn where each scale starts and ends?

I'm no theory expert and I really barely know the notes of a guitar. I feel like I need some theory background in order to be able to understand all of this.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Feb 27 2013, 08:44 AM

Hey Trey,

It is indeed an important thing to be able to see the notes making up a scale on the neck and get to make up arpeggios, scale sequences or use intervals at command, so for this, I recommend the following

Each of those scales is based on the harmonic minor formula -> 1 2 b3 4 5 b6 7 8 - you can apply this from all the root notes and obtain all the harmonic minor scales used in the lesson.

Try to do this and listen to the scale go up and down covering 2 octaves let's say. After that, try to ascend and descend using intervals and various groups of notes (8ths, triplets, 16th notes, groups of 5, of 7 notes etc.)

Once you have done that, you will have a pretty good view of your 'map' so to say and then the paths chosen by Muris on your 'map' won't seem so foggy

What say you?

Cosmin

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Feb 27 2013, 05:41 PM

Sounds like something that will take a while. I'll probably go through and do the actual lesson and then go back and actually try to learn more about it.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Feb 27 2013, 11:29 PM

Ok Trey, either way, it is best that you understand the map Let me know how it goes, ok?

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Feb 28 2013, 05:00 AM

For sure Cosmin.

Question, have you ever played an Gibson guitars? If so, what are your experiences with them? I'm looking into them right now as I'll be receiving lots of graduation money from relatives.

Any bad experiences or preferred guitar styles?

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Feb 28 2013, 09:34 AM

Hey Trey - lotsa money/ lotsa decisions ey?

I am not a fan of Gibson guitars, simply because I can't get along with playing them so, I wouldn't know what to say - I am more of a strat type body fan.

But PRS is my game Have you tried those?

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Feb 28 2013, 02:12 PM

Always have loved PRS but have never known where to start?

Before I got my Alexi it was between the Alexi Sig and the Purple Allender model PRS.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Feb 28 2013, 07:28 PM

Should've went for the purple one hehehe!

What sort of budget do you estimate?

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Feb 28 2013, 07:57 PM

I'm selling a lot of gear so my price range should be between $750-$2000. Iv'e been heavily looking into an ESP NT-II

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 1 2013, 09:20 AM

Mate, the ESP is quite a metal guitar if you get 2000 bucks, I'd go for a good ol PRS custom 24 or an SC 250 - the singlecut, somewhat like Mark Tremonti's model, but a bit cheaper.

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Mar 1 2013, 01:53 PM

I may look into that!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 2 2013, 03:02 PM

I think I'd be the happiest dude if you would get a PRS Dunno why, but it feels like I am getting it myself

Are you aiming for a fixed bridge or tremolo?

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Mar 2 2013, 03:38 PM

Definitely looking for a fixed bridge.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 2 2013, 04:53 PM

Well, then I would totally recommend these:

http://www.prsguitars.com/sc245/

http://www.prsguitars.com/p22/

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Mar 2 2013, 08:13 PM

I've actually really gotten into the Custom 24.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 3 2013, 10:20 AM

Ah, that's a wonderful guitar! I have a few lessons recorded on one:

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Rock-Reggae-Solo/
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Common-Notes/
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Pedal-Steel-Guitar-Country-Solo/

And also this live thing in the studio:

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Mar 3 2013, 11:57 PM

Part of me really wants a Jackson though

Also, I've been working on the "Winter Tune" lesson for a little while now. Excited to let you hear how it's coming along. I plan to do a rough recording of the first bit between tomorrow and Wednesday.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 4 2013, 08:27 AM

That would be great man!

Let me listen to it when it's done! About the Jackson... I dunno, not my type of guitar But mate, try everything and see what fits your hands, budget and is pleasing to your ears

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Mar 4 2013, 02:15 PM

Hey Cosmin,

Will you be doing anymore full DoC songs as lessons? I'd love to learn Journey!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 4 2013, 11:22 PM

Hey Trey! Maybe I will do Journey - I haven't decided yet, but it can be an option - is it your favorite?

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Mar 5 2013, 07:30 PM

Yeah! It's incredibly atmospheric.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 5 2013, 11:05 PM

Thank you man Alongside 'Grace' that song deals with some very personal stuff that I managed to let out through music..

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Mar 6 2013, 05:26 PM

It's awesome to hear some backstory on it.

I'll be recording the first few videos of Winter Tune tonight.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 7 2013, 09:03 AM

Great! Share it as soon as it's ready

Have you read the lyrics?

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Mar 7 2013, 05:14 PM

That fail video I posted was pretty much what I was going to show you

I haven't read the lyrics but it seems to be about a time in your life when you were uncertain about things.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 8 2013, 11:17 AM

Well now, Trey I am 100% positive you can do better than that I got something for ya:

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Mar 8 2013, 04:55 PM

Thanks for the instructional video man!

I'll pay attention to that. I try to practice things at a slower bpm, especially when they have backing tracks but I guess I just over think my playing which gets me too focused on one section.

Also, why don't you use that JEM in any lessons? That guitar is awesome!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 8 2013, 11:15 PM

My pleasure man - just take it easy and I am sure it'll come together You are talented and you can do it!

The JEM... I kind of avoid playing it I feel that it's more like a piece of history rather than a daily use axe

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Mar 10 2013, 04:21 AM

True- what year JEM is that again?

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 10 2013, 09:24 AM

It is a JEM 777 SK - made in 1989

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Mar 10 2013, 04:13 PM

Such a cool guitar! I bet it's hard to find!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 10 2013, 04:51 PM

Out of what I know, there are about 124 left in the whole world

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Mar 10 2013, 11:05 PM

So now I understand why you don't use it so much

Looks like I'll be having a lot of time to play guitar. I almost tore my ACL in a track meet. I also rolled my ankle so I'm out of the game for a while.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 11 2013, 08:50 AM

Then I understand you will have time for a great rendition of the Winter tune?

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Mar 11 2013, 01:08 PM

Hopefully so!

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Mar 11 2013, 10:54 PM

I've got a surprise coming for you man!

Just wish I had a mic!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 12 2013, 09:05 AM

What sort of surprise man? Doesn't your camera have a built in mic or the computer? If it's a laptop, it should have one

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Mar 12 2013, 12:56 PM

Just found out I can use my laptop's mic for garageband!

Looks like I'm in business. In between all of the other guitar playing and lessons I've been doing, I've also been piecing together Meta!

I'm hoping to have a full vocal and guitar cover done by the end of the month or sometime next month!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 13 2013, 09:10 AM

Wow dude! I will post it on the wall of our official FB page You have no clue how proud I feel right now! Looking forward to it!

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Mar 13 2013, 04:19 PM

Wow! That would be really cool!

I cannot scream to save my life so I'll most likely only be doing the singing parts.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 13 2013, 08:25 PM

If you can sing and play in the same time, you are the man! Screamos included or not, either way

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Mar 14 2013, 02:00 AM

Oh I can't do complex stuff yet!

I'm thinking I'm going to make a legitimate cover track and I'll probably put that over me playing the actual song! I don't know if that would really count as me playing it or not, especially for a REC take...

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 14 2013, 09:40 AM

It would be awesome anyway The REC does not involve singing as a compulsory thing, but if you could strap the vocal track over the playing, it would be more than awesome Honestly speaking, I have never ever heard anyone sing this tune other than myself - in an organized setting, I mean.

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Mar 14 2013, 01:22 PM

Well hopefully you'll hear someone do a decent take at it!

Not to sure about singing hard into a webcam but we shall see.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 14 2013, 10:59 PM

Uh oh, that could be a problem

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Mar 15 2013, 01:37 AM

Definitely. I'm trying to make it as good as I can.

I'm really excited to get a critique on a cover from the actual artist!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 15 2013, 09:17 AM

What other songs can you sing? I'd like to tell you a thing or two about singing, but first thing - let's hear the recording so that we may have a base to start from

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Mar 15 2013, 01:08 PM

I'm not good at singing low meaning my vibrato for lower notes isn't on point but for powerful heavy notes I'm pretty good. Friends of mine have tried to start bands here and there and have tried to recruit me if that says anything

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 16 2013, 11:10 AM

Well, it does say something of course Tell me, have you practiced anything to develop your low register?

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Mar 16 2013, 04:08 PM

I probably practice vocals more than guitar

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Mar 17 2013, 12:00 AM

So I tried a PRS Custom 24 SE today. I tried the 6 and 7 string version of it.

Both were amazing. I'm pretty set on the 6-string version being my next guitar!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 17 2013, 03:10 PM

Hehe! Awesome mate! Good call The SE line has great guitars, tell me what would the price be for the 6 string and which one for the 7 string?

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Mar 17 2013, 03:18 PM

The guy at the shop told me he could probably sell me the SE 6 string for a discount at $600 since he knows he'll make the rest of the money back since I'm at the shop so much

The 7-string model would be somewhere around $700 which is basically full price give or take.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 17 2013, 03:39 PM

Close to the prices in here I was curious - mate I will cook up a little video for ya, regarding exercising the low registers with your voice

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Mar 17 2013, 03:48 PM

Awesome man!

So I'm thinking, what if we start doing lessons of just all kinds of styles. I'm liking more bluesy stuff because you can actually turn it into metal but it's got more feeling.

I'm about to start working with Todd on speed so I'd like try and put all of that stuff together.

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Mar 17 2013, 06:09 PM

Just talked to my Dad on the phone C-man!

I was ranting about how awesome that PRS was that I played and he surprised me by letting me know in two weeks it will be mine!
He is buying it for me as my graduation present!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 17 2013, 07:29 PM

Well, I guess a welcome to the family a bit earlier then the due date would be fit! Welcome Trey!

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Mar 17 2013, 08:19 PM

Super excited!

I'm getting the one in Royal Blue. Fell in love with it yesterday!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 17 2013, 09:09 PM

Oh, the blue one I love that!

Trey, here's what I got for ya:

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Mar 17 2013, 09:42 PM

Really cool video.

I try hard to use my diaphragm. I think I'm like you. I'm more comfortable singing high rather than low! It's really cool how the way you use your facial muscles determines how one's voice sounds.

I'm going to try these techniques.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 18 2013, 08:37 AM

Glad I could help mate Tell me, do you have any vids with you singing, or any recording of sorts?

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Mar 18 2013, 04:39 PM

Stay tuned. A friend and I are actually going to be doing a cover of Road to Nowhere by Bullet for my Valentine soon. Pretty sure I'll be on vocals and he'll be doing the acoustic.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 19 2013, 08:46 AM

Sounds great man - looking forward to it!

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Mar 21 2013, 02:59 AM

So question,

How exactly do you go about writing lyrics.

I've written some stuff and never know if I'm doing it the right way or not. I just sort of write and leave it at that

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 21 2013, 05:51 PM

Howdy amigo

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Mar 23 2013, 07:26 AM

Really cool Cosmin.

Yeah I get the whole story telling thing. I'd rather lyrics that have a meaning or purpose than just random words that rhyme you know?

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 23 2013, 12:44 PM

Most definitely man! We had a gig last night and while I was recovering I was thinking about how much lyrics can hit people when they started singing the chorus in 'Meta'

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Mar 23 2013, 02:59 PM

What a coincidence. Meta hit me harder than a bus going full speed when I first listened too it. Do you think maybe I should post some lyrics for constructive criticism?

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 23 2013, 04:17 PM

By all means man

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Mar 23 2013, 04:27 PM

This was written during a not so great period in my life probably around the time that I first heard Meta. You may see why Meta had such an impact on me in these lyrics. Don't worry, I'm not some psycho whose about to jump off a bridge

Desolation

What is going on
These walls are closing in
My hourglass is turned upside down
The pouring never ends
A slave to the pain is what I’ve become
Torturing myself yet again

Don’t pray for me
Just watch me wither away

Emptiness protruding
Self-hatred fills my soul
My glass has become half empty
Obscurity is at whole

Don’t pray for me
Just watch me wither away
This inoperative shell of a man
Seems destined to remain

I need a savior
In the abyss so gray
Damnation lingers
My life is in jeopardy

Or pray for me
And watch me wither alone
Because no one was there before
A formality rotted to the bone

Don’t pray for me
I’ll do this all alone
I’ve always done it alone

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 23 2013, 05:51 PM

Mate - I sense anger in there - lyrics are usually a vessel for spilling out the stuff. I think they are pretty deep and they carried the message through to me... I will most probably start writing again soon as there's a lot gathered in my bag of tales as well.

Do you have anymore? And have you ever tried to put them against music?

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Mar 23 2013, 06:55 PM

I have some

I've tried but I'm not much of a composer and I can't build a drum track to save my life.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 23 2013, 11:51 PM

Oh really? Well would you like me to help out with that?

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Mar 24 2013, 02:21 AM

That would be awesome actually!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 24 2013, 06:37 PM

Ok mate! Tomorrow I'll cook up a first assignment for ya In a little video of course!

I need to rest now - I just passed my degree exam at both ken jutsu and batto jutsu - it's my first martial arts degree!

Cosmin

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Mar 24 2013, 09:33 PM

Awesome man! I'm actually a Second Degree black belt myself in Takwando!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 25 2013, 08:43 AM

oooo Great man - so you got the black belt and 2 degrees after that, right?

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Mar 25 2013, 01:02 PM

Yep! All by the age of 12!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 26 2013, 09:41 AM

Trey, are you kidding me man?

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Mar 26 2013, 04:20 PM

Nope, ended up having to quit though because I wasn't exactly supposed to go Second Degree that soon anyway. To get my third degree I would have had to wait until I was 18. I basically would have done nothing for 6 years so I ended up moving on from martial arts.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 26 2013, 04:48 PM

NO WAY!

Start back again It's a pity!





here we go:

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Mar 26 2013, 05:05 PM

It's a little late now as I'm about to go to college. It was fun while it lasted though.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 27 2013, 09:12 AM

It's never too late

Mate, have you seen the movie I sent?

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Mar 27 2013, 04:23 PM

I haven't been able to actually! I'll watch it tonight when I get home

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 28 2013, 09:18 AM

Alrightie Trey, let me know

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Mar 28 2013, 12:57 PM

Okay, just watched.

The closest thing to drum software that I have is the keyboard on my computer that can be used to make drum sounds in garageband

I know nothing about divisions.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 29 2013, 09:07 AM

Alright Trey! That's sufficient I'll make up a movie for ya in an hour or so, ok?

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 29 2013, 12:31 PM

Here it is!



Let me know if everything is clear ok?

Cosmin

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Mar 29 2013, 03:33 PM

Good stuff Cosmin! Sounds like a simple enough task.

By the way, I may be getting my Paul Reed Smith today

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 30 2013, 02:35 PM

Congrats my friend! Looking forward to see the task done and some vids with the new Les Paul - what color will it be?

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Mar 30 2013, 02:54 PM

It's a PRS C-man!

I posted a thread about it in the gear section! Check it out!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 30 2013, 03:22 PM

Man, I must be getting eyesight issues I can bet all my money I read Les Paul... Brrrr, what's wrong with me?

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Mar 30 2013, 03:54 PM

Nothing! Everyone misreads here and there! Did you see it?

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 30 2013, 04:11 PM

Beholding it now! Wow..

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Mar 30 2013, 06:09 PM

Awesome guitar isn't it!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 31 2013, 02:57 PM

Yes it is man! And out of what I am seeing, it has the rounded body instead of the flat one! Nice!

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Mar 31 2013, 03:17 PM

Yeah! That was something that I was happy to see!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 31 2013, 03:35 PM

How's that special track coming along?

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Mar 31 2013, 04:00 PM

If you mean "Meta" then slow. Getting the recording right is tricking. I'm not a mixer so it sounds like shite. If you mean the drums, I completely forgot

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Apr 1 2013, 07:25 AM

AAaaaahh! Get to work! I wanna see both assignments ready!

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Apr 1 2013, 07:38 PM

Getting on it now!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Apr 4 2013, 08:37 AM

Hey mate How's it going?

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Apr 4 2013, 03:45 PM

As of right now, I'm struggling with switching between the clean chords on Meta. They aren't hard but my fingers getting close together just messes me up!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Apr 5 2013, 07:56 AM

I know man! I totally feel you Work on shifting the positions as a whole and not moving any finger separately, k? How about the drum writing assignment?

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Apr 5 2013, 03:23 PM

As of right now I haven't really worked on it. I've been too busy with Meta!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Apr 6 2013, 11:49 AM

Mate - I have a little video for ya today

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Apr 7 2013, 07:59 PM

Awesome Cosmin!

I'll practice what you suggested!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Apr 8 2013, 09:24 AM

Hehe Keep me posted bro!

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Apr 9 2013, 11:11 PM

Okay so I have two lessons that I'm going to do some recording for for REC and then it's all Meta

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Apr 10 2013, 08:23 AM

If I hadn't known better, I'd say you were running away from it

But I know that you are doing those in order to prepare yourself for it, right?

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Apr 10 2013, 06:59 PM

You are exactly right. I've got them down, I'm just perfecting them now

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Apr 11 2013, 09:59 AM

Show me some stuff amigo

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Apr 24 2013, 01:19 AM

Sad news brother.

My POD GX unfortunately has failed me. It by no means will work. This means that my REC takes aren't going to sound as great and no Meta cover until my graduation next month until I can by myself Guitar Rig 5.

In the mean time, I'm going to stop holding out on you and actually show you stuff I've been practicing. My internet is being slow so YouTube uploads are taking forever but give me a day or so and it'll all be up!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Apr 24 2013, 07:17 AM

Oh sorry for that mate... Well, let me see and hear the YT materials till then I am fond of seeing that blue guitar in action

Posted by: TreyDeschamp May 7 2013, 11:48 PM

Well, I've got a little update for you.

So youtube for some reason won't except my mobile uploads. Thus, no youtube videos for now. I'm in the process of selling off some stuff for better recording equipments so I think come summer, I'll be back in business.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 8 2013, 07:22 AM

Well bummer So, what will you be practicing till then? Not being able to upload, doesn't mean not able to practice right?

Posted by: TreyDeschamp May 8 2013, 11:01 PM

Well, I've actually been in the process of learning songs.

Right now I'm learning:
To The Stage by Asking Alexandria
Becoming the Bull by Atreyu

Along with that I've been perfecting David Wallimann's lesson "Lick Construction Class Workshop" to work on feeling out what I'm playing.

Big question though,

What do you use to plug your guitar into your computer?

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 9 2013, 07:37 AM

Oh, sounds like some angry tunes there Hehe - record them too, once you have the chance

Well, I got a vid here for ya man - it says pretty much everything about how my guitar is connected to the pc - through the AMT SS20 that is.

Posted by: TreyDeschamp May 9 2013, 10:30 PM

Cool video man! Thanks!

I'll definitely record them when I can! I'm selling an amp right now to buy guitar rig 5/reaper so hopefully things come soon!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 10 2013, 08:10 AM

Pfff, will you have another amp left, or is this the only one?

Posted by: TreyDeschamp May 13 2013, 10:38 PM

This is the only one. However, I'm going to college and there would be no room for it in my room. It would basically be at home for 4 years so I figure I need to get rid of now than later on.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 14 2013, 10:40 AM

Ah... I see, well, it is a wise decision then. If you should ever need to gig tho, you should consider raising money for a good combo that can stay with you in college. Something like 50W tube, if possible.

It's always good to think things a little in advance

Posted by: TreyDeschamp May 14 2013, 04:32 PM

That's what I'll probably end up doing in the next few years. For right now though, Guitar Rig 5 is all I really need for practice and recording purposes.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 15 2013, 06:59 AM

Well, I am looking forward to see the new recordings once you get it

Posted by: TreyDeschamp May 15 2013, 05:16 PM

I'm looking forward to recording without any trouble for once!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 16 2013, 07:03 AM

It's not that complicated mate, all you need is to focus on things a bit and get a hang on how it's done. After that, the more you do it the better you become

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Jun 3 2013, 02:22 AM

Hey C-man!

School is FINALLY over!

So I was thinking, with a new start in my life, maybe we could start new on this journey (don't worry, I'm still doing Meta). I'm going to start working with Todd on developing speed but I want to diversify my playing.

I want to start learning multiple styles of guitar so because of this I figured we could start doing random lessons until I find a style I want to isolate. Would that be cool?

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jun 3 2013, 07:19 AM

Hey Trey!

Congratulations once again mate This will be definitely cool, as out of each style you will learn something which you can integrate in your own playing style (that's what I did over the years and I am still doing it )

Let's think like this - we'll develop various techniques through the aid of various styles, deal?

Have you ever played funky stuff? That can lead to BIG changes for the good only, in your rhythm playing

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Jun 3 2013, 02:50 PM

Sounds great!

I've actually never played funk but I've always loved it an been interested in it! Is that where we will start first?

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jun 4 2013, 10:45 AM

Yes!

How bout this one? http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Funk-Rhythm-Swing-Feel/ - let me know if it's doable, ok?

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Jun 8 2013, 08:40 PM

That one sounds great! If I don't reply soon don't think I haven't seen the message, I've been incredibly busy lately.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jun 9 2013, 01:54 PM

Hey Trey No problem man, write me when you have the time It's all good as long as you don't neglect your practice and playing in general!

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Jun 25 2013, 02:50 AM

So I've been practicing the piece here and there but I've been frustrated because I realized my timing is awful.

I started trying to use a metronome but then realized that I can't even stay on beat with that. Is there any way you could make a video explaining how to use a metronome. 8 years of playing and I've never used one!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jun 25 2013, 08:29 AM

Hey Trey, sure thing man Stay tuned!

Here we go:

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Jun 28 2013, 05:13 PM

Definitely will be practicing this so that you don't get angry!

But really, thanks for the video man! I'll be practicing this for sure and I'll put up a video so you can see.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jun 29 2013, 01:06 PM

Please do! The video communication between us two is very helpful on both sides, so, shoot as often as you can

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Jun 29 2013, 03:40 PM

So I have a few errands to run but after that I'll be doing this video. I'm not so worried about the 60 BPM as I'm worrying more about applying this at a faster BPM.

Gotta start somewhere though, right?

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jun 30 2013, 12:29 PM

Of course you do

Thing is, as long as you push things at a steady pace and don't get frustrated about not having the rhythm you would like to have in terms of how fast you evolve, you will get there Slow and surefooted is always best!

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Jun 30 2013, 11:58 PM

Here it is!

I wasn't too sure with the 8th notes and I didn't even try 16th notes!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jul 1 2013, 08:38 AM

Hey Trey! Good job till the 8th notes

Now, let's just focus on these, ok? I want you to try and feel 2 equal notes on each beat - but, not by playing the guitar - use your hands and clap them If you are unsure, let me know and I'll do a vid for ya, k?

Slow is difficult as well - but this is where control is coming from

Cosmin

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Jul 1 2013, 08:22 PM

Sounds good. I'll get right to it!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jul 2 2013, 07:25 AM

that's the spirit laddie!

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Mar 13 2014, 03:11 PM

Cosmin! Long time no talk!

Glad to be back but more excited to start the process of working with you again! I think instead of picking up where we left off it would be more beneficial to rework my workout routine.

I want to get more accurate with my guitar playing while also building speed through alternate picking, sweeping, etc.

My reasoning for this is because I can always learn metalcore or any other style here but without accuracy in my notes I won't be able to play anything well. Who knows, may be after this journey I'll be the next Andy James

Thanks for the help buddy!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 14 2014, 08:59 AM

Howdy Trey Welcome back mate!

As I said in the previous thread, I have started a new program which I think would be beneficial to you - please take a look here: http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=50025&st=0&start=0 answer the questions and we can begin You can write the answers here in the thread

Cosmin

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Mar 14 2014, 03:38 PM

Awesome!

Well then my answers are:

1. I have been playing guitar between 9-11 years (I can't remember my exact age but that is the general area).

2. I feel like I'm definitely not a beginner but I'm trying to get going in the intermediate level.

3. I have basic theoretical knowledge that I'd like to improve on. I can find note on the fretboard but they aren't committed to memory.

4. As of lately I haven't really touched a guitar since I've been busy with school and had to leave them at home to get in the swing of a new lifestyle. Now that I'm taking my guitar back to school with me I feel like I'll be able to dedicate anywhere from an hour to two hours for practice.

5. I was raised as a metal kid so I love shred guitar techniques like sweep picking and alternate picking but I'm also incredibly interested in the economy picking technique.

6. I would definitely like to improve my note accuracy and my speed. I'd also like to improve and build my use of alternate picking and sweep picking because a lot of the songs that I listen to use these techniques. This would greatly help me become a better lead guitar player. I would also like to improve my musical diversity. I'd like to break into the real of jazz playing because the style uses these same techniques a lot.

7. In my current experience as a guitarist I've jammed with some friends and recorded things here and there but never to the extent of it being noteworthy. I've been more of a home playing person.

8. Right now I have two main guitars:
-PRS Custom 24 SE
-ESP Alexi Laiho Signature Blacky
and then since I am at school I use Guitar Rig 5 as my amp system. I then use garageband to record into. I have more gear but these items are the ones that get the most use.

9. At a young age I was blown away by guys like Paul Gilbert (my Dad is a huge fan). As of lately the guitarists that inspire me now are Alexi Laiho, Michael Paget, Misha Mansoor, Synyster Gates, Tosin Abasai and Guthrie Govan.

Here are a few cover pieces and lessons that I've recorded over the past year for a visual/audio analysis:




Thanks Cosmin!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 15 2014, 03:39 PM

hey Trey!

Thank you for answering the questions mate! You have evolved a lot since we last talked, that's for certain!

I think we can go for developing your chops in musical contexts as a main aim, judging from what you told me and I would like to suggest the following approach:

Spending 5 hrs/ lesson (2 hrs/day - about 1 hrs for each lesson) in which you should:

- understand the theoretical concepts
- learn the lesson structure
- learn each part and reproduce it slowly with the metronome
- put all the parts together and practice them against the slowest available backing track
- work your way up tempo with the available backing tracks

Day 1-5:

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Sweeps_Major_and_Minor/ - sweep basics to start with

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Intervals-Etude/ - a little alternate picking treat, for you To get ya out of the rut Nothing straight forward here

Day 6-7 - Revision (you practice the lesson, assuming you that you already know the structure and you can play it) - focus on timing, definition, clean playing, articulations and details! Recording - if you wish - and writing conclusions so that we may draw a line and see what have you learned in that week

How does it sound Trey?

Cosmin

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Mar 15 2014, 03:47 PM

I really like this plan better than the plan we were working with before. I feel like it is 100 times more focused!

I might have to spread these out over a little longer than a week because I really do want to understand these lessons and as someone with basic theory knowledge it'll be a little difficult at first trying to nail down concepts and understand what I am reading.

I also would like to try and produce most of the lessons that we work on as REC takes so that might add to the process but I'll be sure to keep this thread up to date (like I used to do) and make sure to ask you questions through out the process of learning.

Thanks Cosmin! You're the man!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 16 2014, 02:52 PM

Heh! Very happy to see that this is working good for you mate

By all means, it's very important to understand the theory behind what you are doing, so please let me know if there are any theory related questions and take your time if you think you need more than a week, but it would be interesting to keep it in max 2 weeks, so that you will pick up a faster pace of evolution What do you think?

Cosmin

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Mar 16 2014, 03:43 PM

I most certainly can try!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 17 2014, 08:33 AM

Please do and keep me posted

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Mar 18 2014, 07:30 PM

Hey man,

So the theory for the sweep picking is fairly straightforward but I'm getting a little confused on the theory for the inteval etude.

I get that it was written in the C Ionian mode (and all I really know is that it is an Ionian scale in C) but what exactly makes up the 3rds, 4ths and 5ths of the intervals that are in the tag line of the video?

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 19 2014, 08:49 AM

Hehe! Good question Trey

If you will notice, you always have groups of 2 notes that make up successions, right? Each two notes make up an interval For instance, the first two notes C and G represent a fifth - G is C's fifth and then the next pair is also a fifth - D and A - A is D's fifth Hope it's clear?

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Mar 24 2014, 01:27 AM

Getting to practicing now! Sorry I've been absent the last few days. It was a busy weekend!

I'm having a little bit of trouble with the alternate picking and I'm just going to be up front and honest, a week is not going to be enough time at this point in my playing for me to actually learn and play these two pieces right so it'll be a little while.

Thanks Cosmin!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 24 2014, 08:24 AM

Howdy Trey

Don't worry mate, let's just see the takes and progress and we'll take it from there Let me know when you are ready to ask questions or when you have learned the lesson and you have recording - the quality doesn't matter that much

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Jun 16 2014, 03:52 AM

Alrighty Cosmin,

I'm back again! So last time things didn't exactly pan out. School got pretty hectic when I got ready to start learning again. You know how things get when life is in the way.

Anyway,

I've decided to eliminate some of the distractions in my life from guitar (xbox mostly) and I'm ready to strictly focus on developing my playing.

Lately I've felt a strong desire to develop speed and stamina. I've also had a strong desire to work on string bending and control. I've always loved fast and tasteful playing some I'm trying to build towards that.

Let me know what you think bud,

I promise I don't plan on dipping out this time!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jun 16 2014, 12:18 PM

Hey mate I am always open for business All you have to do is ask and then work hard!

I think we can begin straight away with these two lessons, to get you in shape in the directions you asked about:

Speed and stamina:

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Stamina-School/
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Stamina-School-2-Downpicking/

These may look simple, but they are good starting points to get you warmed up for the next things

String bending and control - I don't remember quite well, but have you tried my Voice of your guitar lesson? If not, you can try both of them

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/The-Voice-Of-Your-Guitar/
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/The-Voice-Of-Your-Guitar-2/

I tell you what - do you think you can tackle these lessons in 2 weeks time? I am throwing you a challenge here, in order to motivate you even more to get back in the game seriously!

Do we have a deal, sir?

Cosmin

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Jun 16 2014, 06:20 PM

Sounds like a plan!

I think and can have some results sometime next week if not all at least for the Stamina lessons!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jun 17 2014, 07:27 AM

Hey Trey That sounds great! Also, make sure you analyze the lessons from all perspectives - theory and how it is applied You don't want to learn these 'just by heart' but, you may surely want to make use of the concepts in your own playing, right?

Please take a look and let me know what questions you might have - regardless of their nature

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Jun 17 2014, 04:12 PM

Will do. So far the lessons from Ben are very basic, not too much theory there but I haven't actually gotten to look at the theory from your lessons. I'll probably get to that tomorrow if that is okay?

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Jun 17 2014, 07:35 PM

I'd like to add also Cosmin,

My ultimate goal is working toward being able to play in a shred/progressive manner. Not that I want that to be my style but I love that type of playing:
-quick
-sharp
-fluid

I think other than speed and bend technique I also need to focus on good legato technique and a MUCH stronger pinky but that all can come later. I just wanted you to know the direction that I want to head in.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jun 18 2014, 08:42 AM

It's great for me, man No rush but no slouching either I'd rather we communicate often so that I know you are in the game - so please, do ask questions



I understand We will also include legato in the drills and I think Ben's series - Land of Legato are just fitting for the task at hand, but all in due time, alright? Regarding the style, that's more of an approach and an all around spirit of playing rather than a style For instance, Al Di Meola plays like that and he doesn't play prog/djent or any of that stuff So let's keep the spirit and apply it to your style, deal?

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Jun 18 2014, 05:16 PM

Sounds doable.

For the voice of your guitar lesson, can you explain how you chose the scales/modes that you did? I don't really understand the scale mode concept.

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Jun 19 2014, 03:23 AM

Question on "The Voice of Your Guitar"

So I have the first video nailed down. I think I'm playing it well and my vibrato seems to be really good. The problem comes when going to the second video (video 3). I just cant seem to understand what I'm doing.

Anyway you could make a video isolating this section to show me?

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jun 19 2014, 09:35 AM

Hey bro Let's take things one at a time:

You have two modes which are both derived from the E major scale:

E Ionian - E F# G# A B C# D# E
A Lydian - A B C# D# E F# G# A

The progressions I used are both derived by harmonizing the each mode:

Progression one - Aadd9 Badd11 G#m Aadd9 was obtained from the A lydian mode and it's a modal progression (you may notice that it starts off with a chord derived from the first step of the mode)

Progression two - Emaj Badd11 C#madd11 Aadd9 Badd11 was obtained in the same manner, but in respect to the E Ionian mode.

Now the question is - do you know what harmonizing means and how to apply the concept on any mode or scale? This is the basic starting point for understanding what I used and why



Trey, could you be a bit more specific about the problem so that I may know what exactly doesn't fall into place? Have you tried to play along with the slowed down version of the part?

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Jun 19 2014, 11:33 PM

Could you explain harmonization to me? I basically think of it as just harmonizing scales together in synch with the backing notes.

And I"m talking about the shift from the bend at the end of the first video to the first bend at the end of the second video.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jun 20 2014, 08:18 AM

Hey bro

Well, harmonizing means deriving vertical structures of 2 or more notes from each scale degree, by taking care that those notes will only be a part of the scale or more you are working with. Basically, you are creating chords from each step of the scale.

In order to understand the idea better, I will recommend this lesson: http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Triads_in_Major_Scale_Series_Part_1/

It explains the whole concept AND in order for you to prove that you understood I want you to apply the harmonization on the E major scale - as in the recommended lesson it is done in the C major scale. Do we have a deal, young man?

About the bend - I assume it is because you don't see the passing from the first video to the second - you just have to hold the bend and release it when the part explained in the second video begins - like this:

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Jun 20 2014, 04:17 PM

I sort of get it but I'm not sure that I really understand how to do it. I'm a newbie to all of this wizardry called music theory so it'll take me a while before I can actually apply. Right now I'll finish those first lessons you sent me and then I'll go back and try and understand the theory.

Currently I'm working by myself through the actually theory board and am slowly understanding it so maybe it'll help if we went through it together. We go through the lessons in order and then maybe we could work exercises within them before moving on to the next lesson?

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jun 21 2014, 04:51 PM

I think it's a good idea like to take the following steps:

- finish the current assignments
- start discussing theory together and in the same time, you could tackle the lesson about harmonizing that I have suggested. It's very very useful and it will surely put the theory to work in a nice incipient context. But tell me man, what have you read about theory so far, so that I may know where to take things from?

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Jun 22 2014, 08:51 PM

Currently I'm in the Professors Theory Guide. I'm on learning to write scales in the quick start program.

Posted by: TreyDeschamp Jun 23 2014, 02:59 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think I found my issue with learning the "Voice Of Your Guitar" Lesson.

At the beginning of the second video the tab says to bend the 8th fret of the B string but in the video you are bending the 7th fret from the way it looks to me. MAYBE (big maybe) there is a mistake in the tab.

Anyway, I'm loving the lesson so far man.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jun 23 2014, 08:43 AM

I got there If we were to sum up a general rule for the major scales - we could state that you can't have 2 notes sharing the same name in a natural major scale and that pretty much sums it up, if you are to ask me. But foremost, have you understood how to form a natural major scale? That is a very important aspect of music theory and I would begin everything from that point, in order to get you into theory and into applying it in what you already know This link here - http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=47641 explains things, so please read and let's play around with some exercises afterwards - deal?

Hehe Matey, look at second 0:44 in video 3 - that's the one explaining the second part You'll see clearly that I am bending the 8th fret on the B string. Say, are you using the slow videos to learn the tune? Because everything is played very slowly in there and with angles for each hand. I have a little suggestion for ya

Rely on your ears and not on tabs - especially here, where you have the exact playing slowed down and exposed in different angles It will not only train your ears but show you the mechanics of the hands. All you have to do is watch and listen

Glad you like the lesson bro! It's a line I made up with my first serious band almost 10 years ago!