Nuc Pc, Anyone got any thoughts?
Phil66
Aug 11 2019, 11:15 AM
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Hello folks, I'm thinking of upgrading my music laptop. I don't really need a laptop but I don't have room for a second desktop tower. I've come across these and wonder what your thoughts are.

Any advice/opinions gratefully received, thanks.

https://www.intel.co.uk/content/www/uk/en/p...s-kits/nuc.html

I would likely purchase from HERE something like THIS spec but with 512gb SSD and 32gb ram.

I just want to be able to swap it with my laptop, for the record, my laptop only has 3 usb ports and an hdmi out.

It needs to come in at around £850 before tax.

Thanks in advance of your help, I keep wondering if I'm missing something that is staring me in the face as to why I can't just swap it over, obviously there will be the set up but I'm hoping there is some quick way of cloning the hard drive from one to the other, somehow, maybe huh.gif

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Oct 3 2019, 08:25 PM
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SSD is, in some cases, a better upgrade than ram.

Back to "latency". Not sure it is latency that I am sensitive to. I took it a trial of Helix Native before I came away, had to contact support because I tried it in my old rig and nothing but crackles and pops but my time limited was logged. Explained to line six and they gave me an extension.

Anyway, I just couldn't handle it, really messing with my head. Used my Helix LT on the same settings and that was the same. With Native, unless you can advise otherwise, I have to switch Reaper to "record monitor". I can't handle that slight delay, I put my LT on the same setting and it was the same. I usually use "direct monitoring" and that is pure real time, is there a way to do this with native?

I guess it would be good to have for working with a dry signal but for me that's about it I think. Maybe I didn't need this new rig.

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QUOTE (Phil66 @ Oct 3 2019, 08:25 PM) *
SSD is, in some cases, a better upgrade than ram.

Back to "latency". Not sure it is latency that I am sensitive to. I took it a trial of Helix Native before I came away, had to contact support because I tried it in my old rig and nothing but crackles and pops but my time limited was logged. Explained to line six and they gave me an extension.

Anyway, I just couldn't handle it, really messing with my head. Used my Helix LT on the same settings and that was the same. With Native, unless you can advise otherwise, I have to switch Reaper to "record monitor". I can't handle that slight delay, I put my LT on the same setting and it was the same. I usually use "direct monitoring" and that is pure real time, is there a way to do this with native?

I guess it works be good to have for working with a dry signal but for me that's about it I think. Maybe I didn't need this new rig.

Cheers

Phil

hence , back to why I am sorry I did not get mine with thunderbolt

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QUOTE (jstcrsn @ Oct 3 2019, 08:54 PM) *
hence , back to why I am sorry I did not get mine with thunderbolt

Do you really think it would make a huge difference?

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QUOTE (Phil66 @ Oct 3 2019, 07:57 PM) *
Do you really think it would make a huge difference?


what is your reported latency wiith helix plug-in??

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- - Phil66   Cheers, I'll look for one   Aug 12 2019, 01:56 PM
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|- - Mertay   QUOTE (Phil66 @ Aug 13 2019, 05:10 PM) Ho...   Aug 13 2019, 07:26 PM
|- - Todd Simpson   looks like mertay has you sorted. Let us know wha...   Aug 14 2019, 08:13 AM
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- - Phil66   Thanks Todd. I'm in that zone now where I...   Aug 14 2019, 10:13 AM
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|- - Phil66   Cheers, And so you think it will run Helix Nativ...   Aug 16 2019, 10:37 AM
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- - Phil66   Nudging this up, need help   Aug 16 2019, 10:11 PM
- - Phil66   When I tried Native it just crackled and popped, t...   Aug 16 2019, 10:50 PM
|- - Mertay   QUOTE (Phil66 @ Aug 16 2019, 09:50 PM) Wh...   Aug 16 2019, 11:47 PM
|- - Todd Simpson   Should run it just fine. I ran helix native on my...   Aug 17 2019, 12:33 AM
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- - Phil66   Thanks guys, Native isn't the only thing, whe...   Aug 17 2019, 08:19 AM
|- - Todd Simpson   This should sort all of that out. QUOTE (Phil66...   Aug 17 2019, 10:14 AM
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