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Posted by: Pedja Simovic Sep 4 2009, 06:18 PM

Hi Frederik!

This is place where I will give you assignments and upload videos. You will do the same starting tonight. Bookmark it, subscribe to it as it will be easier to follow when I post new things in!


Posted by: Pedja Simovic Sep 5 2009, 09:37 AM

Lets get started Frederik!

In your guitar CV there was very good balance of goals in my opinion. Phrasing, guitar fretboard knowledge (arpeggio, modes), improvising and theory and harmony.

For your 1st assignment I decided to assign you soloing with arpeggios. As you may already know, I had collaboration that was soloing with chord tones/arpeggios. This will be perfect opportunity for you to learn arpeggios and use them in musical context.

Here is your 1st assignment :

- Record a solo using chord tones and arpeggios over collaboration backing track found http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=14285.
- One time through the whole thing is enough but I encourage you to submit multiple takes and choruses in order to expand ideas and creativity.
- Record video of yourself playing it, upload it to Youtube and embed it in this thread.
- Make sure you read my suggestions and follow arpeggio diagrams in thread http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=25478.

Deadline for your 1st assignment is one week from today (13th of September).

If you have any questions, feel free to ask them here I will be glad to help you out.

Extra assignment :

- Read this theory post (using link below) and expand your knowledge of major scale and its modes. You will have a short test in the future for this!
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=30193&view=findpost&p=418884

Posted by: Frederik Sep 6 2009, 11:10 AM

I actually did this when i was a collab, but i only composed halfway throug, but now i can remember it at all biggrin.gif

-Frederik

the theory is read BTW

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Sep 6 2009, 11:21 AM

QUOTE (Frederik @ Sep 6 2009, 12:10 PM) *
I actually did this when i was a collab, but i only composed halfway throug, but now i can remember it at all biggrin.gif

-Frederik

the theory is read BTW


Great! I will shortly give you some questions regarding theory post. Regarding chord tones and arpeggios, I would like you to do couple of choruses (3 or 4) improvising with arpeggios.
I am providing you looped backing track in this thread.



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Posted by: Frederik Sep 6 2009, 11:46 AM

Nice, should it be improvisations, or should i compose, i can improvise very well over it, but i dont think of arpegio shapes, i just play by ear then

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Sep 6 2009, 11:53 AM

It should be improvised yes. Make sure you don't use any scale notes but just chord tones and arpeggios. Also try to make it as melodic as possible!

Posted by: Frederik Sep 6 2009, 11:58 AM

Yikes ! biggrin.gif 3 mins of impro without my beloved minor/major scale.. damn, thats a tough one

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Sep 6 2009, 12:22 PM

If 3 minutes is too much for you right now, do 3 choruses instead wink.gif

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Sep 10 2009, 09:56 PM

Frederik how are those choruses coming along ? Need some extra help?
I am here man just let me know!

Posted by: Frederik Sep 11 2009, 09:32 AM

yep they are, im getting better. last 2 days have been school and homework, but as i said i'll uplod something in the weekend smile.gif though that we could do it over video chat maybe, feels kind of odd to upload a sloppy improvisation, guees my perfectionism is kind of blocking in that matter

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Sep 11 2009, 10:46 AM

QUOTE (Frederik @ Sep 11 2009, 10:32 AM) *
yep they are, im getting better. last 2 days have been school and homework, but as i said i'll uplod something in the weekend smile.gif though that we could do it over video chat maybe, feels kind of odd to upload a sloppy improvisation, guees my perfectionism is kind of blocking in that matter


No worries Frederik. Upload something over the weekend and we will take it from there. I appreciate you being perfectionist about your takes, really do, but I also want you to finish your assignments so we can cover new things smile.gif

Posted by: Frederik Sep 12 2009, 04:28 PM

I have recorded this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykqymVIIMDk
i've made some licks that fitted each chord, so its not entirely impro. i'll try to upload some more
hope u dig it biggrin.gif

-Frederik

ps, it might still be prossesing

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Sep 13 2009, 08:11 AM

QUOTE (Frederik @ Sep 12 2009, 05:28 PM) *
I have recorded this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykqymVIIMDk
i've made some licks that fitted each chord, so its not entirely impro. i'll try to upload some more
hope u dig it biggrin.gif

-Frederik

ps, it might still be prossesing


Frederik this is coming along. I can see and hear that you are still not totally free with improvising in this area. It would be good for you to upload some more (like you said) and to compare improvement between videos. I think you are on a good way, keep working on it!

Posted by: Frederik Sep 13 2009, 12:51 PM

i think i need a backing track where the duration of the chords is longer, i cant think fast enough to improvise over this one, i have to prepare myself everytime :S

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Sep 13 2009, 01:17 PM

QUOTE (Frederik @ Sep 13 2009, 01:51 PM) *
i think i need a backing track where the duration of the chords is longer, i cant think fast enough to improvise over this one, i have to prepare myself everytime :S

I could perhaps try to do one for you with twice as long changes, but it will not sound as progressing as this one?

Posted by: Frederik Sep 13 2009, 02:42 PM

QUOTE (Pedja Simovic @ Sep 13 2009, 02:17 PM) *
I could perhaps try to do one for you with twice as long changes, but it will not sound as progressing as this one?


yeah.. not to be troublesome, but its to hard for me

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Sep 13 2009, 02:59 PM

QUOTE (Frederik @ Sep 13 2009, 03:42 PM) *
yeah.. not to be troublesome, but its to hard for me


Ok Frederik no problem. I will send you some II V I chord progression so you can work over 3 types of arpeggios there wink.gif

Posted by: Frederik Sep 13 2009, 03:10 PM

QUOTE (Pedja Simovic @ Sep 13 2009, 03:59 PM) *
Ok Frederik no problem. I will send you some II V I chord progression so you can work over 3 types of arpeggios there wink.gif


nice!

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Sep 17 2009, 12:06 PM

Frederik,

Here is the II V I backing track from http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/jazz_licks_ii_v_i_in_d_major/ lesson. You can also find arpeggio graphs in that lesson!

Bass in backing track is in octave lower range then it should be but don't let that stop you in practicing soloing with arpeggios and chord tones!

I will be out of my town today, back tomorrow. Let me know if you have any questions or need any help with it!

Pedja

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Posted by: Frederik Sep 19 2009, 11:40 PM

the upload is just an idea i did with a diatonicly moving bass line (if those are the right terms) wink.gif
and check this
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=30401&hl=iluha+ideas+reason+sessing
the 5'th or 6'th post smile.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-yd1hBRvos thats the song im playing with some guys

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Sep 20 2009, 11:06 AM

QUOTE (Frederik @ Sep 20 2009, 12:40 AM) *
the upload is just an idea i did with a diatonicly moving bass line (if those are the right terms) wink.gif
and check this
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=30401&hl=iluha+ideas+reason+sessing
the 5'th or 6'th post smile.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-yd1hBRvos thats the song im playing with some guys


Sounds very interesting Frederik. You are doing great with keyboard smile.gif Techno tune made me smile man biggrin.gif

Posted by: Frederik Sep 20 2009, 11:25 AM

glad u like it smile.gif forgot to upload an the idea

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Posted by: Pedja Simovic Sep 20 2009, 11:29 AM

QUOTE (Frederik @ Sep 20 2009, 12:25 PM) *
glad u like it smile.gif forgot to upload an the idea


Love it Frederik!


When can I expect some guitar take with arpeggios ? smile.gif

Posted by: Frederik Sep 20 2009, 11:33 AM

Hope to do that soon! though ill focus most on getting the pieces for audition down (its this friday).
Its like starting from scratch again actually, really a lot of things to keep track of biggrin.gif

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Sep 20 2009, 12:06 PM

QUOTE (Frederik @ Sep 20 2009, 12:33 PM) *
Hope to do that soon! though ill focus most on getting the pieces for audition down (its this friday).
Its like starting from scratch again actually, really a lot of things to keep track of biggrin.gif


Ok Frederik, sounds good. For time being focus on your audition pieces. It would be nice if you recorded them before Friday and posted them here. That way I can give you some hints and tips for them wink.gif

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Sep 21 2009, 02:38 PM

Frederik here is my improvisation over II V I in D major backing track. I only did couple of times through to give you an idea how to work on it.
Let me know if you got any questions!



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Posted by: Frederik Sep 22 2009, 06:53 AM

QUOTE (Pedja Simovic @ Sep 21 2009, 03:38 PM) *
Frederik here is my improvisation over II V I in D major backing track. I only did couple of times through to give you an idea how to work on it.
Let me know if you got any questions!


Thanks pedja smile.gif

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Sep 22 2009, 10:23 AM

QUOTE (Frederik @ Sep 22 2009, 07:53 AM) *
Thanks pedja smile.gif


You welcome Frederik!
I hope that improvising helps you gather ideas for your solo. I can record some more for you if you like?

Posted by: Frederik Sep 22 2009, 01:37 PM

would be cool, i like hearing different ideas on how to improvise only with chord tones. and how to do it simple smile.gif cause thats my aim for time being biggrin.gif

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Sep 22 2009, 02:28 PM

QUOTE (Frederik @ Sep 22 2009, 02:37 PM) *
would be cool, i like hearing different ideas on how to improvise only with chord tones. and how to do it simple smile.gif cause thats my aim for time being biggrin.gif


Ok Frederik.
I will simplify it even further. I will do just roots, then Roots and 3rds, then Roots 3rds and 5ths , then Roots 3rds 5ths and 7ths. So that makes it total of 4 choruses of playing.

Posted by: Frederik Sep 23 2009, 09:48 PM

QUOTE (Pedja Simovic @ Sep 22 2009, 03:28 PM) *
Ok Frederik.
I will simplify it even further. I will do just roots, then Roots and 3rds, then Roots 3rds and 5ths , then Roots 3rds 5ths and 7ths. So that makes it total of 4 choruses of playing.


Thats something ! i gotta go with that approach to

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Sep 24 2009, 02:30 PM

QUOTE (Frederik @ Sep 23 2009, 10:48 PM) *
Thats something ! i gotta go with that approach to


You should definitely do it!
I will post my 4 choruses by tomorrow. Make sure you post yours soon wink.gif

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Sep 26 2009, 05:26 PM

Happy Birthday Frederik!

Have fun today man wink.gif

Posted by: Frederik Sep 27 2009, 10:32 AM

Thanks biggrin.gif

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Sep 28 2009, 01:33 PM

You welcome Frederik!

I will upload today choruses with chord tones that I mentioned earlier. That should help you create your own solo and free up your thinking when improvising!

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Sep 28 2009, 06:17 PM

Here is the example of just using Roots, then Roots and 3rds, Roots 3rds and 5ths and finally Roots 3rds 5ths and 7ths!
You should practice this way over backing tracks so you can get a grasp of where the notes are on the fretboard. Then later on you can start making melodies and jumping between the notes!
I am expecting your take to be similar to this one. Let me know if you have any questions!



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