Recording/mixing Lead Guitars |
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Dec 23 2008, 10:37 PM
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Well, there's a couple of misconceptions there mate. First of all, people use various gear for various purposes. Sound on the record depends on many factors, and gear that is used in the studio may well pretty much differ from gear used in some YT clip. By gear I mean the whole chain of things involved in the recording process, mics, mixer, room acoustics, production, post production and many other factors will determine how something would sound. If you have some examples, perhaps we can go through them and analyze a bit if you want.
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Jan 30 2009, 08:03 PM
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Well, when I record lead guitars, I like to add some mids to the sound with an equalizer. This way the tone will be fatter and punch through the mix a little better. And I know that a lot of mixers/producers like to do this aswell.
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Feb 8 2009, 12:57 PM
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Guitarists use real amps in the proper studio. I don't think that multieffects like POD and similar things are that much in use for the real recording. I used to like Michael Romeo's (Symphony X) sound a lot. It had so much bass and power so when he plays riffs it really sounds like a hurricane
 Later I found out that his sound is actually much more in treble frequencies, there is no bass at all. That means that many instruments togehter and the richness of the arrangement is making that powerful impression. When the riff, bass guitar and the kick drum hit something all together then you hear it like a bomb but the guitar itself doesn't really sound like that on its own. Sound engineer has a lot to do with that as well.
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Feb 8 2009, 01:05 PM
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There are some "rules' on how to record lead guitar
and it varies a lot from one style to another. One very important fact is sounding of rest of the bend and what you wanna get in final mix, sometime you need to go for lead with bunch of midds, sometime it's cutting midds as much as possible etc. Your ear should be your guide for sure but the more you know about sound engineering and EQ tricks the faster you'll get what you're looking for. -------------------- Youtube
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Feb 8 2009, 02:04 PM
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QUOTE (Nemanja Filipovic @ Feb 8 2009, 12:48 PM)  Well some times when you take one instrumen out of a finished mix you will wonder how it could sound so good in the mix.That is definition of the word "mix".For examplle you could have amazing stand alone drum snare,but it sounds bad in the mix.I know that some metal productions record rhythm guitars very big,lot of bass in them,but later in the mix you have bass guitar you have drums and all the other instruments that are filling the EQ spectrum.They then cut off frequencies in rhythm gitars. QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Feb 8 2009, 01:05 PM) There are some "rules' on how to record lead guitar and it varies a lot from one style to another. One very important fact is sounding of rest of the bend and what you wanna get in final mix, sometime you need to go for lead with bunch of midds, sometime it's cutting midds as much as possible etc. Your ear should be your guide for sure but the more you know about sound engineering and EQ tricks the faster you'll get what you're looking for. Absolutely agree - a key part of the job for the recording/mixing engineer is to attain appropriate balance across the frequency spectrum so that all the parts fit. Back to the original question - one reason why Youtube videos often don't sound like the original is that the audio is compressed. Cheers, Tony -------------------- Get your music professionally mastered by anl AES registered Mastering Engineer. Contact me for Audio Mastering Services and Advice and visit our website www.miromastering.com
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Feb 10 2009, 01:13 AM
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You definitely need to do some equalizer tweaking, I usually add gain to mids!
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Mar 18 2009, 02:29 PM
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Usually sound engineer starts with drums. First the kick drum, then the snare etc... Then he tries to fit the bass guitar within that picture but with some careful EQ and pan so he can leave some space for other instruments. Then the keyboards come in (if you have it) and after the rhythm guitar. Solo comes the last. Some people like to include vocals just after drums and bass and fit other instruments carefuly arround it. Pro mixing is a complex process and it takes time. Never mixdown anything together (like rhythm guitars in one stereo track). Always keep separate recorded tracks in a raw format and after apply effects. This way you can always go back if you don't like something. You can use groups for that. Put all your rhythm guitars in one group channel of your mixing desk (or a software mixer) and EQ them all togehter but you still need to have them separated in separate channels in your project. About the solo, some people double it some not. Depends what sound you want to have. Try both and see what you like. The most important is that you have a nice and healthy raw signal so you can color it later with effects and EQ. The rest is just about experimenting. It will never sound like you initially wanted but you might end up with something even more interesting. It all depends of the whole song arrangement and other instruments. If you make a solo guitar sound that fits in your arrangement and play with the same sound on some other type of track you can likely have impression that your guitar doesn't sound the same even though you know you're using the same settings. Many factors are important in the game but that's the beauty of mixing if you can deal with all those little components and make something nice for your ears out of all that.
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Mar 20 2009, 01:40 PM
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QUOTE (steve25 @ Mar 20 2009, 12:10 PM) That's a pretty good way of doing it. A little side question which popped into my head was how do you deal with tempo changes and time signature changes in your DAW? Because, take reaper as an example right you can set a tempo and time signature there but that's for the entire track not individual sections. So Emir is that pretty much what you do? So you record a section say the percussion, then mix that then you do the rhythm guitars and so on? You say you shouldn't mixdown but what about when you start mastering? About the tempo, I don't use Reaper but I think there must be an option how to insert new tempo starting from the bar you want. Every DAW has that. Your click (metronome) will also change when it comes to that new tempo. Check help file or search google how to do it in Reaper. About your second question I think you didn't get it all because I probably didn't explain well. First you record everything. Now when you have all your material ready for mixing you start in steps like I explained before. About the mixdown I said you should always work with separate tracks and never mixdown together anything during mixing (like all backing vocals into one track or similar). When you have it all mixed and you're happy how your song sounds, then you mixdown the whole project into one stereo track. Now you take that track into Wavelab or Soundforge, etc... and do mastering. From there you export another new mastered stereo track and there you have it. -------------------- Check out my <a href="https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/instructor/Emir-Hot" target="_blank">Instructor profile</a>
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Mar 22 2009, 03:53 PM
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The more the instruments, the harder it is to do the mix, and more experience is needed, but there is no such think like a "so big mix that guitars won't pop out". Good sound tech will always make everything come out. This takes knowledge and good equipment, but it no matter how many instruments you have, lead guitar must be in there somewhere. As always practice and hard work is everything, so learn some mixing tips, and experiment, and you will be able to hear everything nicely.
PS Nuendo/Cubase have tempo editor where you can program tempo changes very precisely in the piece. Reaper should have similar option, if it doesn't have, I recommend transferring to Cubase or Nuendo since they are one of industry standards for DAW. If you cannot buy one, possibly try getting one through some hardware, since lots of manufactures bundle Cubase 4 LE today with entry level recording gear. This is a great way to start with both recording, and get a cool software that is legal. -------------------- - Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE
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