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Nov 6 2010, 01:48 PM |
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Nov 6 2010, 07:34 PM |
Mudbone, You seems to be intelligent, yet You trash the Tea party also because of it's free market ideas. Cutting ALL of social spendings is one of the key reasons how to heal economy and in result 90% of the population. You ask how can I say that taking away money from disabled children is right? Well it's pretty simple. The government doesn't have it's own income, it has to tax people in order to get money. So the government doesn't "give" anything to anyone, it just forces part of people to give part of their money to other people. For me this is an outrage, a theft, a huge crime. I am a 100% responsible for my own acts, and I want to be 0% responsible for the acts of others. If I won't have means to secure the future of my child, than I won't have a child - I SWEAR IT. It may sound that I have to high self esteem, but I think that I am quite a helpful guy, at least thats what all my friends say. I would help other people if I could, especially considering I don't have huge material needs on my own. But I hate to be forced to do so, if money is "the fruit" of my work, than I am the sole person in the whole world that should have anything to say about how this "fruit" should be used. This above is the simple, yet for me "100% true" ideological reason, why social government is wrong. To this comes countless examples why this system works bad in the world. For example in my country "retirement system" is like this: in your whole life You pay approximately 160 000$ for Your retirement, and statistically You get 23 000$ out of it before You die. The rest - 137 000$ is wasted, nobody from ones family gets even a penny, all the rest is consumed by the bureaucracy. I would know how to spend this kind of money to secure my life better - for sure. Social government is such a pathetic system, that in Africa even some countries that have oil deposits are not earning cash on selling it. I know just few homo-sapiens that could go bankrupt while having a gold mine, but without free market it is quite easy... So while racism or fanaticism is a reason to dislike a person, please turn on the bright side of the force - the free market! \m/ I'm not that intelligent, just slightly smarter than a rock I'm am not opposed to the free market, as I come from a family of career businessmen. But I do understand the need for there to be a cop on the block. EDIT: eh I read my post, I am such a free market fanatic - darn... Still free market = cheaper guitars, so I win! I'm not that intelligent, just slightly smarter than a rock I'm am not opposed to the free market, as I come from a family of career businessmen. But I do understand the need for there to be a cop on the block. Imagine an American Football game with no referee, the players would literally kill each other. Do you think its right for businesses to sell products that they know are defective? Thats pretty much what the banks did. Read this article and you'll see why sometimes we need regulation: Glass-Steagall Act You live in a country that was once exclusively socialist, so I definitely understand your sentiment. Pure socialism is immoral and reprehensible. But having an exclusively free market system with no government is anarchy, Somalia has such a system. We need to deal with things on case to case basis, and not apply blanket ideology to everything. Nothing in life is completely black or white, peace is within the gray areas. The fire department in the US used to be privately run, and you would have to buy insurance and then put a tag on your house verifying you paid. If you didn't pay then they would let your house burn down. What isn't immediately obvious is the fact that this is also dangerous to the neighbors that did pay their insurance, as that fire can easily spread to adjacent houses. So you can see why we need a fire department that isn't profit driven. Whats upsetting is the fact that the government has become a separate entity from the people. In a true democratic republic people elect legislators to implement laws they want. We no longer view the government as something we choose it to be. However, in a democracy, we have exactly the government we deserve because we're the ones that chose it. I think the US should be like Brazil and make it mandatory to vote. Most people in the US don't vote, so sometimes we're stuck with a government only the minority wants. Whats sad is the political climate has moved so far to the right that any moderate wishing to express their views seems like a Bolshevik commie. My beef with the Tea Party isn't really their views per se, but their hypocrisy, as previously mentioned, and their support for ignorant, uneducated, warmongering politicians. I hate to come off as a political goon, because I spend most of my free time playing guitar, shooting guns, and drinking beer Its just that most Americans that share my views never speak up, and I don't want the only voice of the US to be the radical right. -------------------- He who laughs last thinks slowest. "That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence." - Christopher Hitchens Gear: Guitars: Uncle Rufus' Twanger Classic Amps: Mississippi Boom Box Mojo: Hammer of Odin and a pair of Ox gonads Inspiration: Samuel Adams Boston Lager Zero to Hero: 1,387/10,000 |
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Nov 7 2010, 08:16 AM |
Here's a clip, where Yngwie sums it up pretty well. And this from a guy that immigrated to the US.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZiWIdgLS-Y I was born in Germany but grew up in the states. My job takes me all over the world, and I see it first hand what its like in other countries. Great people and cultures for sure...but one common denominator is that more and bigger govt is NOT the answer....it just creates more bureaucracy/bureacrats who produce nothing...except more drag on the respective economy/society in the form of more regulation and taxation. I'm more of a Libertarian in my personal leanings ( I don't agree with everything they espouse however). I actually blame both the dems AND reps for not doing anything to try and reel in an ever expanding govt for the past 40-50 yrs. It seems that they just take turns screwing the american public and nothing really gets accomplished except the wishes of the lobbyists and attorneys. I think the Tea Party is just a reflection of that frustration....after all, the folks in Washington are supposed to work for us (we the people) not the other way around. |
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Nov 7 2010, 02:50 PM |
Not true. Meaning you do not know what you are talking about. Again, nice try at rewriting history, but I know you didn't actually do it yourself but read and learned that falsehood on some lefty website. Kahall, you can't just say something is not true and not say why. It has become quite apparent your knowledge of terminology is quite limited, as you clearly do not know what the word progressive means. So if Eisenhower wasn't a Republican, what was he? If he didn't initiate the construction of the highway system, who did? Here's a clip, where Yngwie sums it up pretty well. And this from a guy that immigrated to the US. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZiWIdgLS-Y I was born in Germany but grew up in the states. My job takes me all over the world, and I see it first hand what its like in other countries. Great people and cultures for sure...but one common denominator is that more and bigger govt is NOT the answer....it just creates more bureaucracy/bureacrats who produce nothing...except more drag on the respective economy/society in the form of more regulation and taxation. I'm more of a Libertarian in my personal leanings ( I don't agree with everything they espouse however). I actually blame both the dems AND reps for not doing anything to try and reel in an ever expanding govt for the past 40-50 yrs. It seems that they just take turns screwing the american public and nothing really gets accomplished except the wishes of the lobbyists and attorneys. I think the Tea Party is just a reflection of that frustration....after all, the folks in Washington are supposed to work for us (we the people) not the other way around. +1 I agree with just about everything you said. -------------------- He who laughs last thinks slowest. "That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence." - Christopher Hitchens Gear: Guitars: Uncle Rufus' Twanger Classic Amps: Mississippi Boom Box Mojo: Hammer of Odin and a pair of Ox gonads Inspiration: Samuel Adams Boston Lager Zero to Hero: 1,387/10,000 |
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