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sidthekid
Nov 15 2016, 07:47 PM
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Great lesson! I went through it, found 2-3 new licks that I really like smile.gif Some of them I've heard before, since I've learned the Sweet child of Mine and Slither solos, these hard blues-rock licks are my favourite type \m/

So I think these days are a crucial period, a type of test, for me to learn to improvise according to scales and finally have a breakthrough. I will try my best!

Like I went through this lesson -
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Poor_Man_Blues_Solo/

Its backing track is the 12-bar blues in E, so
E-E-E-E
A-A-E-E
B-A-E-B

I saw that first the solo plays notes from the Bm pentatonic then shifts to Em pentatonic, then back to Bm, then finally back to Em pentatonic. I thought that was it, but it seems all the notes I THOUGHT were from the Bm pentatonic scale, could actually come under the E minor chart diagram at the bottom of the Lesson Description.
So what scale is the instructor playing the whole time? Is it the E minor/E minor pentatonic (hybrid) only, the whole time?

Also, if I want to improvise on this backing track -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xu7lPZGfZKs
its chords are Em-G-D-C. Are there any specific scales I should be on during any of the chords? Or should I just roam around on the Em hybrid scale? Is there any music theory for this?

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Hi mate,

the instructor on the blues lesson is using a concept called "following the chords". The scale is mostly E pentatonic minor, however there are some extra notes (2) that are taken from E minor scale, mostly when the backing goes to A.

The chords from the progression are minor. So what he is exactly doing in this solo targeting the notes from each chord, and using the notes from the pentatonic as passsing notes to create the phrases.

Try it by yourself. Work on small parts of the neck and play Em arpeggio every time that Em minor sounds, and A minor arpeggio when this chord sounds:






Once you can do it, do the same but also using E pentatonic minor scale as a template to create phrases.




You'll notice that if you combine all these notes, you'll get E minor scale which is the scale suggested by the instructor. The trick is not which notes you play, the trick is WHEN.

Does it make sense?



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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Nov 16 2016, 04:39 PM) *
Try it by yourself. Work on small parts of the neck and play Em arpeggio every time that Em minor sounds, and A minor arpeggio when this chord sounds:


Hey Gab, I tried your above suggestion, it makes sense yes. I recorded two videos of me, playing the Em Arpeggio notes (with emphasis on ending a phrase on E/B) during the Em chords, and Am notes (with emphasis on ending a phrase on A/C) during the Am and Bm chords. Also used the pentatonic scale notes as passing notes.






I also noticed that I don't really listen to the sound of the notes I play, and how they sound with the chords, but I link/connect more with the visual structure/ box position/ lick structure. As in, I try to fit the licks I already know onto the chords without matching the sound, that's something I will work more on.

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Hi mate, good! This is a great first step into this direction. The next exercise that I recommend doing is to play the closest chord tone when a chord changes to give the solo a smoother direction. At this moment, I can hear that every time the chord changes, you start a new arpeggio, the idea is that this change happens more naturally.

Also try to start creating more musical phrases, using pentatonic but focusing on chord tones. Again, the following the chords concepts should be natural. People must think that you player the right note at each moment, not that you are changing the shape everytime the chord changes.

This is not easy, but keep on working with these ideas in mind and it will slowly happen.

Keep the great job!

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Thanks for the advice! I'm definitely making some progress, also I found an awesome website Hook Theory ( https://www.hooktheory.com/trends ) that lets you choose a chord progression and see popular songs in that progression. I'm on it all day biggrin.gif

Can you give me another video to work on, something that I can go for REC? What should I progress in next, I think I will start Todd's shredfest challenge from Jan so please give me a difficult one biggrin.gif

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That's a cool site! Thanks for sharing!

What about giving a try to this lesson?

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Stevie...pired_Phrasing/

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Whoa this is an awesome lesson! The fast parts are just on the edge of my playing ability...I'll definitely try my best on it smile.gif

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Cool! It's one of my favorites.

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Hey Gabriel, here's my take. I can work on it more and try to make a REC before next weekend!

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Hi mate, that's really good!

There are some details regarding your playing that can be fixed but the overall sounds really close, congrats friend! smile.gif

The main thing that I would improve on this one to share a REC take is your tone, and the mix sound. It doesn't sound good, how are you recording this? It sounds like if it would be low fi.... what amp are you using?

Then, regarding playing, be careful with timing, you tend to play licks after the beat so pay attention to it. Besides this, there are some obvious details to adjust in some licks close to the end, but again, this is really good!

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Hi Gab! Been a long while since I posted here! Doing some RECs nowadays, my playing's definitely improved.
I was doing this lesson https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Bens-Vibrato-Odyssey-5/, wanted to ask if I can use my third finger instead of the 2nd finger for playing the vibrato notes. I don't really bend with the 2nd finger alot, mainly use the first or 3rd fingers...so is that ok?

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Hi mate, great to hear from you!!

Using your third finger won't avoid you to pass at REC but I strongly recommend to also practice with your second finger since you'll need to be able to bend and do vibrato will each of your fretting hand fingers.

Are you using finger 1 to help your finger 2 when bending?

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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ May 21 2018, 01:32 PM) *
Hi mate, great to hear from you!!

Using your third finger won't avoid you to pass at REC but I strongly recommend to also practice with your second finger since you'll need to be able to bend and do vibrato will each of your fretting hand fingers.

Are you using finger 1 to help your finger 2 when bending?


Hey yea, I had lots of academic/job work last year, learned singing and keys too so the guitar was ignored. But now I've got a good recording setup and look forward to getting back biggrin.gif

Yes I use the finger 1 behind 2 for bending. Ok I will practice with both fingers, anyway I can't do the fastest part properly with any finger right now, I usually bend the string up so downwards is new for me.

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Well, take your time for practice and to get used to it. This lesson is specially designed to improve your vibrato (as well as your bending) so it's a good moment to master these techniques. If you don't do it know, you'll regret it later.

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