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Posted by: skennington Jan 25 2008, 10:11 PM

I'm sure you guys in the UK have heard this band and prolly a few from here in the states. I just heared them today and man, I'm impressed! Check'um out.

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Posted by: Davidian Jan 25 2008, 10:13 PM

I think they're good ^^
I'll see 'em live in a couple of months at Graspop

Posted by: Luc Hébert Jan 28 2008, 04:49 AM

I enjoy this type of metal, although if they had more "emo" sound to them, I may not say the same, not much into the emo sound.

They have a good balance though.

I feel the same way about Atreyu and 36 Crazyfists.

Posted by: Pablo Vazquez Jan 28 2008, 02:31 PM

Bullet for My Vallentine really rocks!! I think they are influence by iron maiden, megadeth, metallica, etc, etc.

Posted by: Owen Jan 28 2008, 06:32 PM

Quite personally I'm getting fed up of all the press about these guys, its all been;

"Welsh Emo Rockers Break The States!!!!"

As if you guys buying into our copied music scene was somehow original.

Posted by: OrganisedConfusion Jan 28 2008, 06:44 PM

I really dislike them. Unoriginal and they all look like girls. Taking the fun out of real British Metal. Why do they sing like they do and all sing about heartache and heartbreak. They'll be singing about Heart Beat next the rubbish UK TV show. Although Head Automatica have already beat them to it.

I hate fake metal sorry

Posted by: SLASH91 Jan 28 2008, 07:14 PM

Havn't heard much of their stuff...but they seem to have that same poser image (kinda) as A7x, and I can't stand that.

Posted by: skennington Jan 31 2008, 05:14 AM

Damn Owen, when you say coppied music scene I'm a little confused. Do all you guys sound alike?

Posted by: Paul Coutts Jan 31 2008, 06:16 AM

what the hell is "fake" metal?
What's real metal?
:S
It seems the only band that can "be" metal is Metallica....because metal is in their name....
I don't get fake this and that....doesn't seem to be much real anymore :S

Posted by: Paul Coutts Jan 31 2008, 06:18 AM

Don't you just need to grow a beard, your hair long, wear black...and that's "metal"?
I don't get these image criticisms....isn't KISS poserish, then?

Posted by: botoxfox Jan 31 2008, 11:44 AM

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Posted by: DeepRoots Jan 31 2008, 11:49 AM

They're from my home town so i have a signed album and have met them a couple of times, i really like their stuff and it looks like im gonna love their new more thrash metal sound in the "Scream Aim and Fire" album


heres their new video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoT1oRnSK88

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jan 31 2008, 11:50 AM

oh no! not again with the true and the false metal! It was enough with Manowar... Where can I get my true metal certificade?... just kidding! I respect your opinions.
I think that their first album is an excelent piece of metal. Excelent songs, riffs, solos and melodies. I hope that the new album is so good too! (I'm listening to it at this moment but I'm not too impresed yet ... but lets listen to it again!)...

gab.-

Posted by: SLASH91 Jan 31 2008, 05:30 PM

I consider this poserish

I know it's not BFMV, but this is an example of what I mean. I'm not really talking so much about the type of music that they play, but just how they are trying to be so "metal", but just end up being gay. I am talking about A7x right now. Like I said BFMV aren't nearly as bad.

Posted by: DeepRoots Jan 31 2008, 05:34 PM

Hmm listening to their new album- i cant help but feel that the majority of the songs are downtuned pop songs with screams/growls...bit dissapointed really

Posted by: Owen Jan 31 2008, 06:21 PM

Music from the UK has become very American influenced, we're buying into the same scenes and just copying formula's from the US, Bullet are stupidly similar to bands like Trivium and it annoys me, recently we've had My Chemical Romance exported to us and bought into en masse and its just disappointing, I want something new!

I mean, not that the music is terrible or anything, all of the players in the bands mentioned are by far better than myself, I just dont feel its anything new and they themselves as people dont seem very true to themselves, its all image.

Posted by: DeepRoots Jan 31 2008, 06:24 PM

too true ....

Posted by: rokchik Feb 1 2008, 01:03 AM

I have not been listening to these guys for very long but I must say I loved "The Poison". Great album. And I would call myself a fan.

I have their new album aswell and for the most part I like it. Bit different from the first. I can see the simularity to Trivium as someone else has mentioned. But it does seem like they want to shed the "metalcore" tag eventhough they still have the screaming lyrics. By this I mean they seem to want to let everyone know that they are Maiden, Metallica, Megadeath influenced (even have a cover of Creeping Death on the deluxe LP) with a bit of hair metal thrown in for good measure. Modernized or course...but Hearts Burst Into Fire could have easily been an 80's hair metal song IMHO. All in all though it's a good album for the drive to work and also to pound some weights at the gym too.

rok

Posted by: Melvyn Feb 2 2008, 12:17 PM

No truer words have been said, IMHO

Personally, I cant stand this band, thereagain, i cant stand most welsh bands. Its this whole 'Emo' fad thats arisen, (albeit that Bullet~ arent Emo, but they are generalized by the amount of 'Emo'orientated people who listen to it) it makes me cringe ><

That said, im not saying everyone who listens to them are Emo

And its not me being racist...

I live, and was born, in South Wales

Posted by: OrganisedConfusion Feb 2 2008, 12:41 PM

When I said fake metal I meant by spending more time on image than the actual music. That is fake anything. Metal-Core is not real metal and is a hybrid that is so keen on image I have no time for their music as they are sell outs to the record industry.

And Kiss invented the whole poser thing lol. Although they can get away with it because they are Kiss

Posted by: OrganisedConfusion Feb 2 2008, 12:42 PM

Plus Emo is being used wrongly as a music category as Emo started long ago and some real Emo bands include bands like Sunny Day Real Estate.

Posted by: Owen Feb 2 2008, 02:13 PM

I wouldnt say all Metalcore is 'bad' on the contrary I think some of it is quite good, then again I suppose it depends on your definition.

Posted by: at lights end Feb 2 2008, 02:40 PM

'emo' has kinda turned into a music category, i think it's a pointless word, it means emotional, and what music doesn't have some kind of emotion?
bands like MCR are classed as emo, they're awful IMO. with BFMV there is a bit of the 'emo' vibe in there, and that's what i don't like about a lot of their stuff, although some of it's quite good.

A7x have gone all pop recently, i heard their new album and was a little shocked, such a difference from their older stuff.

Posted by: OrganisedConfusion Feb 2 2008, 02:50 PM

A7X are just trying to follow the current trend and that is why I hate them. Like all genres there are some good bands but most are current trend followers and nothing more.

Posted by: at lights end Feb 2 2008, 02:52 PM

yeah, they're all about the money not the music nowadays.

Posted by: skennington Feb 2 2008, 03:56 PM

Could'nt agree more on this one. As I watch these guys more and more, I'm starting to understand what owen said earlier. If just listening, I think there pretty tight. As I watch and listen, I'm starting to scratch my head a little. It is all about the money thes days. What ever the public is buying, bands sell out there style in order to sell more records.

Posted by: Mackietao Feb 4 2008, 09:12 AM

Style this, style that... Image this, image that.. U guys tired of bands who´s trying to have an image?
I guess I´m tired of people complaining about what other people do. You don´t like it, don´t listen, simple as that.
You think a band is ugly as... Just listen to the music then, don´t watch videos. A band suck live, listen to the record. A band good live but not on record, go to the concert. To some degree I understand that music is feelings sort of and that you connect certain impressions or moments to certain songs in your life and that a bad live performance could ruin it a little. But in general I do not get people who start dislikes something they liked.
If a band has a good/great/ok song the song doesn´t become bad just because the band goes all Nazist/Rasist/emo/pop/grandmas favourites or whatever you may dislike. It might be a reason not to support the band like buying their things, going to concerts but does it make the song worse..? Could be if "the bad stuff" is really emotionally connected to you somehow. Dissing family somehow perhaps. But if it has to do with stuff like trying to look good, in fashion or just because general public likes it, that is a really silly reason to start disliking something. Music is the same.

Imagine a blind guy digging a record in the store "Hey, I like this. How much for the the cd? (10 dollars) Oh yeah, I can afford that.. How do the band look? (black hair calmed to the side) AHhh, crap... can´t buy this."

If I had a band and I was alone in charge of the music. We would probably change music style more often then on every record. I would probably change it from every track. Or on every track.
And now that I´m writing down some thoughts... I think the critics about bands selling out is a bit too rough sometimes. I´ve preformed before a couple of years ago when I was playing seriously and didn´t have my arm injury. And everything was fun to play live, jazz, pop, rock, metal.. Most fun for me was metal and it was not because it´s the most fun music to play. Actually it was a pain in the ass because songs were fast as hell and lack of rehearsals. one timed preformed same night as getting asked about the show without playing for 6 months. The reason it was most fun playing live because the audience liked it and there is people headbanging, going nuts. So if they fill shows, puts on a good show I totally understand people wanting to play music a lot of people like.
So bands want to make money, that´s fine. I go to a stupid boring job for less money, only for the money. And I know many people who does.
And I don´t think they make music they think suck. (of course bandmembers might have disagreements).

Not saying that you guys with statements and opinions different then what I just wrote are wrong or anything. It´s just my generall overall impression by reading forums and speaking with people.


Just a little anekdote... I´ve have been getting some records for my little sister. Mixed cd´s and such. And she´s only 9 years old. As I have understood kids nowadays follow a sort of trend. Now the newest idol-winner is the coolest, it´s good, listen to it. And then in a couple of months it´s bad. Nothing against the kids, they are like that.
But I don´t remember it being anything like that when I was young. In the Eurodisco time. I didn´t know anything about "new" songs when going to the store and listened thru a lot of records until I bought someone I liked.
I still like almost everything I listened too 15-20 years ago. Bassdrums lacking bass though.

I feel that development really disturbing. All the pressure on kids to be in a certain way. Yuck.. Kind of reminds me of the southpark episode "Stupid spoiled Wh*** " They kick ass