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Apr 4 2020, 11:10 PM
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at what point does the damage of shuting down , end up killing more people than the disease
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Apr 4 2020, 11:28 PM
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My guess is once they start rioting. Also to keep in mind, even if a shutdown stops the next day for those who lost their jobs may take weeks to get it back.
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Apr 5 2020, 12:55 AM
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how about trampling on the Bill Of Rights
and "news"is not reporting this |
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Apr 5 2020, 01:10 AM
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Here is president trump talking about the National Emergency and some powers it gives him. He can do anything he deems fit including declare Martial law.
Sadly during times of national emergency the govt can pretty much take a free hand to do just about whatever they want. It's doesn't make it right. But, it is what it is. The people are under the authority of the states, and the states are under the authority of the federal govt. That's just how our system works. There are various bits of legislation that can be enacted by the Prez, by FEMA, etc. that can let them do whatever they think they need to do. once the death toll from the stay at home order hits 10,000 people, I guess that's the point it will be worse. But only briefly as cases of covid are doubling in this country every 5 days. So 5 days from now, 50,000 people would have to die from the stay at home order. 5 days from that 100,000 would have to die as a result of the stay at home order. I don't think we will see that many people getting dead from just staying home watching tv. During a national emergency, even the constitution can be temporarily ignored for the sake of "national security" which bypasses every single law on the books. of course we could see a backlash if they go to far, but so far they haven't really done enough to cause a civil revolt. Here is a good law article about executive power during crisis. I came across it first when i was "pre-law' many years ago in college. https://www.law.csuohio.edu/sites/default/f...f_article-2.pdf QUOTE (jstcrsn @ Apr 4 2020, 07:55 PM)  how about trampling on the Bill Of Rights
and "news"is not reporting this This post has been edited by Todd Simpson: Apr 5 2020, 02:15 AM |
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Apr 5 2020, 02:31 PM
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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Apr 5 2020, 01:10 AM) Here is president trump talking about the National Emergency and some powers it gives him. He can do anything he deems fit including declare Martial law. https://www.law.csuohio.edu/sites/default/f...f_article-2.pdf way different than a governor who has not declared Marshal law , declaring he can have the police confiscate your stuff This post has been edited by jstcrsn: Apr 5 2020, 02:55 PM |
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Sadly, in times of crisis, the govt both local and federal can claim sweeping powers. All people can do is obey or resist with violent force which leads to an escalation and usually dead civilians. It doesn't make it right of course. It just is what it is. The govt will do whatever they think they have to do. We sorta have to make the best of it, or join an armed militia.
 
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