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Posted by: Ben Higgins May 5 2012, 11:26 AM

Task 15: http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Bens-Vibrato-Odyssey-4/

Goooooooooooooooooooooooood morning Disciples !!! It's time to get wobbly - it's vibrato time ! biggrin.gif

This one has 3 different vibrato approaches in it but I want you to just use whatever is the most natural way to you. The focus is on control, keeping it even and also try and see if you can vary the intensity or speed of the vibrato through the lesson, just to show me and yourselves that your vibrato technique isn't just an automatic response, ok ? smile.gif

As I said in the Apprentice thread, I'm away from next Friday afternoon, so I'll have to make a deadline of next Friday 11th May, that way I can be here to put up the next Task.

There will, of course, be a Donut of Celebration for the first disciple to post their take ! If there's a better motivation than that, then I haven't heard of it ! wink.gif

Enjoy, Dudes !

Posted by: Ben Higgins May 8 2012, 03:22 PM

Greetings, Disciples... I was just visiting the Apprentice area and I thought I'd stop by and see that you guys are ok with this week's Task ? If you need any help, just ring that giant gong at the middle of the Temple courtyard ! smile.gif

Posted by: maharzan May 8 2012, 05:10 PM

Don't we have to learn all 3 before this ? smile.gif I just learnt the first video. 3 more to go. You are a vibrato master. smile.gif)

Posted by: Ben Higgins May 8 2012, 06:18 PM

QUOTE (maharzan @ May 8 2012, 05:10 PM) *
Don't we have to learn all 3 before this ? smile.gif I just learnt the first video. 3 more to go. You are a vibrato master. smile.gif)


Not necessarily. You guys have a good vibrato foundation already. I'd just like to work with what personal modes of expression you already have smile.gif

Posted by: maharzan May 9 2012, 05:29 PM

Hey Ben,

Here is a quick one. I was lazy to do this but I learnt one part of the video one day. Next day, I am actually recording the whole thing. smile.gif The timing seems pretty tricky on this one and I cannot grab it 100%. Hopefully it sounds okay.



Thanks,
Chandra

Posted by: Ben Higgins May 9 2012, 05:55 PM

QUOTE (maharzan @ May 9 2012, 05:29 PM) *
Hey Ben,

Here is a quick one. I was lazy to do this but I learnt one part of the video one day. Next day, I am actually recording the whole thing. smile.gif The timing seems pretty tricky on this one and I cannot grab it 100%. Hopefully it sounds okay.


Thanks,
Chandra


Yo, Chandra.. nice work ! smile.gif

Your vibrato is just great ! The bends are giving you some resistance at the moment. For those high bends near the end, like at 0:58, don't forget that once you bent up a whole tone then another semi tone.. you don't want to drop the string right off, you want to bring it down a semi tone again before cutting the note off - I hope that makes sense ?

Posted by: maharzan May 9 2012, 06:00 PM

I got you! smile.gif Thanks.

Posted by: Ben Higgins May 9 2012, 06:03 PM

QUOTE (maharzan @ May 9 2012, 06:00 PM) *
I got you! smile.gif Thanks.


That's cool, I hope it helps ! smile.gif

Posted by: maharzan May 9 2012, 06:13 PM

It does. smile.gif I was super excited to record this one. I will try recording it tomorrow and see if I can nail that section as well. smile.gif

Posted by: gregc1 May 9 2012, 07:50 PM

Nice take Maharzan! I'm hoping to have mine up later tonight.

This lesson has definitely opened my eyes to varying vibrato. I realize I've always been on auto mode and just do whatever happens. It kind of opens up a new "level" of expression.

The only issue I have is with sustain. There's several parts where my note dies although the vibrato helps to keep it going some. The original version is awesome because Ben's sustain seems to go forever and the long winded notes come across much stronger than what I have going.

Posted by: maharzan May 9 2012, 11:21 PM

Cool, I am looking forward to your take. I guess sustain has to do with the amp model / effects / guitar as well. Mine is same. I will try with another guitar in my next take and see how it is. Am definitely, recording another one. smile.gif

Posted by: Ben Higgins May 10 2012, 09:34 AM

QUOTE (gregc1 @ May 9 2012, 07:50 PM) *
This lesson has definitely opened my eyes to varying vibrato. I realize I've always been on auto mode and just do whatever happens. It kind of opens up a new "level" of expression.


Yes, this is exactly the issue I was targeting with this series. Instead of vibrato being an automatic response that has no variation, I wanted people to learn that there's various ways of approaching so you can adjust it to your mood at the time smile.gif

QUOTE (gregc1 @ May 9 2012, 07:50 PM) *
The only issue I have is with sustain. There's several parts where my note dies although the vibrato helps to keep it going some. The original version is awesome because Ben's sustain seems to go forever and the long winded notes come across much stronger than what I have going.


The Marshall amp and hot pickups probably have a lot to do with it wink.gif

I've always struggled to get decent sustain with digital effects or software.

Posted by: gregc1 May 10 2012, 04:24 PM

"I've always struggled to get decent sustain with digital effects or software."

That's my problem. For me, just playing around the house, Guitar Rig is great because I get a ton of possible variations with no hardware or mess besides my foot control. It's also great for playing with backing tracks and that sort of thing but occasionally I do come across a downside like this one.

Usually if I come across an issue with sustain I actually dial back the drive a little and go for a more bluesy sound to off set it.

Posted by: gregc1 May 11 2012, 01:15 AM

Here's my take on the Vibrato Odyssey. Again, an easy sequence of notes to play but tons subtlety that's tricky to get a hold of. Looking forward to the next!


Posted by: maharzan May 11 2012, 08:26 AM

Thats a beautiful take mate. smile.gif

Posted by: Ben Higgins May 11 2012, 08:42 AM

QUOTE (gregc1 @ May 11 2012, 01:15 AM) *
Here's my take on the Vibrato Odyssey. Again, an easy sequence of notes to play but tons subtlety that's tricky to get a hold of. Looking forward to the next!



Fantastic work, Greg ! It's difficult to get those high notes isn't it ? You managed to pull down to the semitone on the second one at 0:58.. it's not easy but you did it smile.gif

Both you and Chandra did great on this !


Posted by: maharzan May 11 2012, 09:40 AM

Thank you Ben. I really want to record another take but this bend has ripped my middle finger. My nails are short (I bite them, shhh.. ) so it teared down that joining little bit so it hurts. I am waiting to recover. It was better today but after few more practice, its still weak. I will have to stop biting my nails. biggrin.gif

I have to say that this bend is pretty difficult, even when I am using my ring finger. Will try again. smile.gif

Posted by: Ben Higgins May 11 2012, 09:43 AM

QUOTE (maharzan @ May 11 2012, 09:40 AM) *
Thank you Ben. I really want to record another take but this bend has ripped my middle finger. My nails are short (I bite them, shhh.. ) so it teared down that joining little bit so it hurts. I am waiting to recover. It was better today but after few more practice, its still weak. I will have to stop biting my nails. biggrin.gif

I have to say that this bend is pretty difficult, even when I am using my ring finger. Will try again. smile.gif


Ah no, I hate that feeling when you bit your nail too low !! I used to bite my nails all the time but I managed to stop it almost completely. It still happens sometimes ! dry.gif


Posted by: maharzan May 11 2012, 09:50 AM

Too much vibrator with the middle finger. ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif wink.gif

Posted by: Ben Higgins May 11 2012, 09:55 AM

QUOTE (maharzan @ May 11 2012, 09:50 AM) *
Too much vibrator with the middle finger. ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif wink.gif


Now that's a classic quote ! wink.gif

By the way, why haven't we been honoured with your presence on this yet ? smile.gif

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=44187&st=40&start=40

Posted by: maharzan May 11 2012, 10:58 AM

Ah, I have been bogged down with practice too much. I don't even check all the forums here. sad.gif

Posted by: maharzan May 11 2012, 12:22 PM

And, isn't it amazing that we busted the apprentice thread this time? hehehe. smile.gif

Posted by: Ben Higgins May 11 2012, 01:00 PM

QUOTE (maharzan @ May 11 2012, 12:22 PM) *
And, isn't it amazing that we busted the apprentice thread this time? hehehe. smile.gif


It's an unusual occurrence but you guys did it ! wink.gif

Posted by: gregc1 May 11 2012, 02:11 PM

Thanks for the comments Ben and Maharzan!

Yeah, my string did die on those two let down notes but I got a faint sound on the second. Just barely!

Posted by: Ben Higgins May 11 2012, 04:14 PM

QUOTE (gregc1 @ May 11 2012, 02:11 PM) *
Thanks for the comments Ben and Maharzan!

Yeah, my string did die on those two let down notes but I got a faint sound on the second. Just barely!


It was the spirit that helped it carry through !! biggrin.gif

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