What Is "playing With Feeling ?" |
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What Is "playing With Feeling ?" |
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Jan 24 2015, 05:36 PM |
And the opposite is true as well.
You see a ton of (mostly) singers 'emoting' - rapturous ad-libs on the long, held and many times high notes of the melody. Pop singers doing the national anthem or their Star Search/The Voice/America or Britain's Got Talent auditions and performances are a great place to witness vocal gymnastics that most people will regard as an 'emotional' or 'soulful' rendition. 90% of it all just completely sucks. Personally, I taste bile in the back of my throat when I hear that crap ... especially since most of the time there's a ton of terrible and/or out of tune note choices in the coloratura crap they put on there. Or, how about modern 'blues' guitar players. Big slow bends with major guitar face ... don't even start me! *(This should all be great fodder for you Jason). Quincy Jones has the best quote regarding all that unnecessary and unmusical crap ... "I think he/she over-souled it". Conversely I heard 'Crazy Train' last night at a bar. Randy Rhoads definitely had soul! And I don't think anyone argues that John Coltrane had anything but soul. If you 'feel' fast - then fast has soul. This post has been edited by klasaine: Jan 24 2015, 05:50 PM -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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Jan 24 2015, 08:46 PM |
Great posts, guys.. I totally hear you both !
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Jan 25 2015, 12:12 AM |
I hear you Ben and this is something I have noticed as well. I think that it has become a sort of cliche how some people react to some sort of technical "superiority". In a way it must be related to some extent to "sour grapes" and how our minds mechanisms protect ourselves. I don't think music and guitar techniques should have specific requirements when it comes to speed, some people talk slowly and some are always in a rush and do everything fast. It is always funny to me that people use that kind of rationalizations because in the end it comes down as a sort of insult? "Nah - I'm a melodic blues guy." (in translation - I can't do that but I don't want to admit that I would love to be able to do it)
Often slow equals melodic/feeling and fast playing equals pure technique or guitar sports? If we look at it like that, we are essentially all blues players when we start playing the guitar? Then, if we practice a lot, we just lose our soul and become shredders? Musicians should just relax and focus on what they really want to achieve and practice towards that goal. I think feeling comes out of that - playing what you love and what you want. You can usually see when the person is into something and when he isn't. Take for example young bands performing on stage. You can usually spot on the stage a band member who is really into it and you can also spot the one who is the least into it. Those who are having fun are ones really enjoying being there and playing music, while others could still enjoy music might not be into the specific genre/songs the band is playing so they are not investing their 100% in the performance .This is what is cool about music, there is that x-factor of "energy". I had a lot of band rehearsals where we played amazingly well and with that special atmosphere and energy and some really "dull" and 2D rehearsals. Even though we all pretty much played the same notes and songs "technically correct", the moment wasn't right. p.s. Saying to a musician that he doesn't have a soul/feeling is a very mean thing to say -------------------- For GMC support please email support (at) guitarmasterclass.net
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Jan 25 2015, 05:39 PM |
It comes down to authenticity.
Don't say it if you don't mean it. Easy. This post has been edited by klasaine: Jan 25 2015, 05:40 PM -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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Jan 25 2015, 06:46 PM |
It comes down to authenticity. Don't say it if you don't mean it. Easy. That post was way too fast. I don't think you meant it |
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Jan 25 2015, 06:51 PM |
It's like when you know/feel something or someone is just a perfect copycat of something or someone else.
You may not be able to articulate it but you just know something is 'off'. Lack of authenticity. X factor. 'It'. Whatever you wanna call it. This post has been edited by klasaine: Jan 25 2015, 06:52 PM -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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Jan 25 2015, 09:21 PM |
It's like when you know/feel something or someone is just a perfect copycat of something or someone else. You may not be able to articulate it but you just know something is 'off'. Lack of authenticity. X factor. 'It'. Whatever you wanna call it. But we could have a guitarist playing in a cover band and truly enjoying himself? He is fully into it, he is doing the thing he loves in the world the most - playing guitar and songs by his favorite band(s). He gives his 110% in every note he plays. We can't really label him as player without feeling or soul in this case? -------------------- For GMC support please email support (at) guitarmasterclass.net
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Jan 26 2015, 03:42 PM |
But we could have a guitarist playing in a cover band and truly enjoying himself? He is fully into it, he is doing the thing he loves in the world the most - playing guitar and songs by his favorite band(s). He gives his 110% in every note he plays. We can't really label him as player without feeling or soul in this case? Excellent point but that's a completely different situation and I don't think it's what we're talking about here. Copying is the aesthetic in that case. In general no one, musicians or non-musicians alike, would describe a guy or gal in cover band as having or not having soul or feeling. Everyone knows your experiencing a 'product' at that point. That's not a judgement at all (I've played in cover bands since I was 15 years old). It's just not a quality one way or the other that one generally associates with 'cover bands'. *IMO you will be a much better 'copier' when you understand how and why a player does what they do. Rather than just blindly parroting parts or licks. That understanding will also transfer to your own music. This post has been edited by klasaine: Jan 26 2015, 03:58 PM -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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