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Posted by: besip Apr 23 2008, 05:16 AM

Hi guys i'm have question..actualy as beginer i'm try to learn some stuff..right now the main lesson what i'm do is Pavel heavy metal 3..David minor penta..i'm also can play Pavel heavy metal lesson 1 and Marcus neoclasical beginer stuff.
the problem is i'm not able to play any of this lesson on 100%{through the backing} but i'm close but i'm getting bored to play{try -play- learn} same stuff every day

actualy right now i'm start like TROND Rythm lesson and also rock lesson.


but there is lot of thiks coming to my mind...i'm know there is recomendations to pick 2-3 stuff{songs and learn them} but there is aslo recomendations to dont get bored and if you bored go to do something else

but i'm bored anyway i'm not sure what is more right?? becouse i'm can know lot of songs{memorize} and dont't be bored from playing same stuff..but i'm be bored to dont know those songs on 100%

or i'm can be bored to play same stuuff until be erything on 100%

PLEASE DON'T BE BORED FROM ME I'mn actualy not bored sooo mutchh!
i'm just wana know which bored way is better for beginer {your recomendations}

thanks..Rene

Posted by: besip Apr 23 2008, 05:41 AM

actualy i'm belive when i'm reach some level when i'm be able to learn some lesson faster..i'm be don't have any problem

but now i'm just wana know what is the recomendations

stay on 1-2-3 things {lesson} and learn them good{with boring}
or go to learn new stuff and be bored from{knowing} to don't know {play} the prewiously lesson good

or kill my self

Posted by: JVM Apr 23 2008, 06:09 AM

Learn some simple stuff that you can whip out and play at any time. Learn some stuff that won't take you too long, have fun with it, and keep practicing those lessons. Just my opinion.

Posted by: besip Apr 23 2008, 06:26 AM

thaks for reply looks like you got me..the point is..i'm almost have the Pavel lesson{heavy metal 3} on slowet backing track{clean--almost} i'm know the real point is in 120 bpm..hope when i'm make it clean on the slowetst backing then i'm be ok..but like i'm set boring stuff

actualy maybe i'm be all ready ok with the lesson but i'm have problem with 3 finger power chord..i'm play them well now but no perfect..if i'm be play that song just with 2 finger power chord..i'm be maybe done with 100bpm backing
but everything bad is good for something becouse even if i'm bored with that i'm improve my 3 finger power chord

But i'm got you JMV thatks for your reply

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Apr 23 2008, 08:14 AM

Well, you should pick one number of lessons and stick with it until you finish them in one tempo. But besides that try to work on some other techniques so you can rest your fingers from the lesson techniques and don't be bored. Also I suggest that you don't choose the lesson that will take you more than a month to complete.

Posted by: Col Roberts Apr 23 2008, 08:34 AM

Hi Rene,
I know what you mean, it's easy to become bored if you are trying to get a lesson 100% right. What I do is learn a lesson up to the point where I can play it right with the slowest backing track. I then move on to a new lesson that is a little harder, or has different techniques to learn. I keep the number of lessons I am learning, or trying to bring up to the right tempo, to no more than three. When I bring a lesson up to tempo I'll then start a new lesson. I find that this helps hold my interest, and I don't have heaps of unfinished lessons. Also, I do one or two exercise lessons, such as Muris's "Timing Exercise". The exercise lessons can help your technique and eventually help you move on to the more difficult lessons. You can also learn new scales and modes, practise your timing with a metronome, learn some music theory etc. Kris has a lesson called "How To Practice Guitar" which should be helpful. If you divide your practice time between learning scales, improving your timing with a metronome and learning a lesson, it should help decrease the boredom. But, some practice sessions may be a little boring, it's just a matter of working through it knowing that you will become a better guitarist and musician.

Good Luck.

Posted by: Danilo Capezzuto Apr 23 2008, 10:03 AM

I quote JVM, don't spend so much on long lesson, try to learn from short and useful stuff.

Posted by: Fran Apr 23 2008, 12:57 PM

I suggest that you do different things from practicing lessons all the time. Try to improvise over some backings, for example.

You have loads of free downloadable backing tracks here:
http://www.guitarbt.com/index.php?page=dl_list&cat=Jam%20Tracks

Why don't you download the Jam Track Blues in D, and try to improvise with the pentatonic over it?
Or get the Gilmour like backing, and improvise something in minor scale.

I bet you'll have a blast!

Or you could try to take part in some of the collabs here at GMC, download the backings and see if you come up with something, if you don't at least you practiced something new and had fun anyway!

And last but not least: what about using some of the riffs and licks you have learnt from the lessons, and mix it all up to make some new song yourself? And maybe record it?

Or record a simple chord backing and play something over it...

There's tons of stuff you can try besides the lessons
Enjoy!

Posted by: Iluha Apr 23 2008, 01:04 PM

I agree completly! this also what I do, when I learn something that is beyond my limits, I learn it to a certain point when it becomes really difficult and tidious to move further, than I start learning another lesson OR I go back to a previous easier lesson with the same technique and move on because now it's easier for me after I learned something harder...
Gah, wasn't sure how to write this so I hope you understand me!

Posted by: OrganisedConfusion Apr 23 2008, 01:11 PM

I'd say you should learn some songs as well as lessons and that normally keeps the interest.

Posted by: besip Apr 23 2008, 03:33 PM

Thanks guys so i'm probaly get stick by Pavel heavy Metal until i'm made it on slowest backing

actualy my fingers are still bussy i'm not woried about this..actualy my daily rutine looks like that
playing ovet backing track{i'm lowe gilmour backing} or i'm use some backing from here
http://www.freelicks.net/Backing_tracks.htm
http://www.freelicks.net/Backing_tracks.htm

then i'm doing speedpicking and somethime also sweeping
and after all of this i'm trying to play a song

Posted by: rokchik Apr 23 2008, 06:55 PM

It sounds like your on the right track man. A practice routine is hard cause if your like me you don't want it to feel "routine" You want it to be enjoyable and productive. Not boring and feeling like your getting no where. That's when you get frustrated. At least I do.

Don't make a chore out of practice. Just try to keep it interesting for YOU. Practice lessons in the style you like, even try a few songs just for fun or jam to a backing track like you've been doing. Keeping it fun really helps with motivation I think.