Guitar Chat With Vinod Etc. 2007-12-31 |
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Guitar Chat With Vinod Etc. 2007-12-31 |
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Jan 2 2008, 02:09 PM |
05:47:55 Tomy Jeon: hullo!
05:50:25 Tomy Jeon: Anyone here? 05:58:46 Tomy Jeon: Happy new year! 06:19:14 Tomy Jeon: Hi Vinod! 06:19:21 Tomy Jeon: I'm all alone 06:19:32 Vinod: Hi Tom 06:19:43 Vinod: I haven't met you 06:19:55 Vinod: In GMC 06:20:02 Vinod: You new member? 06:20:08 Tomy Jeon: I'm new here 06:20:24 Tomy Jeon: Especially to this live chat thing 06:20:41 Tomy Jeon: I joined around about a week ago. 06:20:54 Vinod: Where are you from man? 06:21:17 Tomy Jeon: New Zealand 06:21:27 Tomy Jeon: It's 2008 ㅗㄕㄱㄕ! 06:21:39 Tomy Jeon: I mean, it's 2008 here! 06:22:03 Vinod: So Very Happy New year 06:22:09 Vinod: 06:22:45 Tomy Jeon: Where are you from and what time is it? 06:22:48 Vinod: All your wishes may come true! 06:22:56 Vinod: I am from Srilanka 06:23:05 Vinod: Its 4;52pm here 06:23:51 Tomy Jeon: Still a lot to go... It's half past midnight here. 06:24:37 Vinod: My brother lives in Australia 06:24:42 Vinod: Melbourn 06:24:58 Tomy Jeon: Ahh, an Aussie!!! 06:25:10 Tomy Jeon: NZ and Australia are very competitive you see. 06:25:28 Vinod: I thought they are frindly 06:25:32 Vinod: 8) 06:25:51 Tomy Jeon: Well, in sports and stuff. 06:26:34 Vinod: Do you watch Cricket 06:26:56 Vinod: ? 06:27:09 Vinod: *meow* 06:27:16 Tomy Jeon: Sometimes. NZ weren't doing too well last year. 06:27:16 Vinod: Is botofox asleep 06:27:23 Tomy Jeon: I think so. 06:27:28 botoxfox: im here 06:27:39 Vinod: Do you know about Srilanka 06:27:58 Vinod: Cricket team 06:28:07 Vinod: Hi Botofox 06:28:11 Tomy Jeon: HI 06:28:27 Vinod: *slap* 06:28:52 botoxfox: not much into cricket 06:29:10 Vinod: I ask from Tomy 06:29:19 Tomy Jeon: Neither. My dad is a golf fanatic though... He hogs the TV. 06:29:34 Tomy Jeon: I sometimes watch while I practice. 06:29:36 Tomy Jeon: 06:30:36 Tomy Jeon: Hey usaman! 06:30:42 USAMAN: sup 06:30:50 Vinod: Hi USA MAN 06:30:55 Tomy Jeon: How did you get that pic??? 06:30:57 USAMAN: Just checked in b4 work 06:31:04 USAMAN: Im special 06:31:07 USAMAN: lol 06:31:10 Tomy Jeon: lol 06:31:31 USAMAN: there is a little comedy and tragity icon they are in there 06:31:44 USAMAN: in the tool bar 06:31:46 Vinod: select Avatar 06:31:51 USAMAN: 10/4 06:31:55 USAMAN: you got it 06:32:07 Tomy Jeon: Thanks. This avvie best sums me up 06:32:15 USAMAN: lol...rock star 06:32:31 Tomy Jeon: That's what I want to be when I grow up!!! 06:32:34 USAMAN: where you from 06:32:56 Vinod: NewZealand 06:32:59 USAMAN: WOW 06:33:01 Tomy Jeon: New Zealand 06:33:02 Vinod: lol 06:33:05 Tomy Jeon: Too late... 06:33:06 USAMAN: Ive been near there 06:33:13 USAMAN: Oz 06:33:21 Tomy Jeon: Which city? 06:33:32 USAMAN: Sydney and adelaide 06:33:46 USAMAN: Got a shelia that lives there 06:33:46 Vinod: He hate aussies 06:33:51 Vinod: lol lol 06:33:51 Tomy Jeon: Cool. I want to go to Oz. To the opera house. 06:34:18 Tomy Jeon: I don't HATE them. It's just the fact that they beat us in every sport last year gets me wound up. 06:34:21 USAMAN: I would love to see New Zealand 06:34:43 Vinod: Just kidding man 06:34:45 Tomy Jeon: I say last year because it's 20 to 1 at January the 1st 2008! 06:34:47 USAMAN: I know a bloke up here that lives a couple miles from me 06:35:06 USAMAN: he grew up in New Zealand 06:35:25 Tomy Jeon: New Zealand has good scenary. 06:35:36 USAMAN: its one Bitch of a long flight 06:35:47 Tomy Jeon: From where? 06:35:49 USAMAN: Ever been across the pond to USA 06:35:55 USAMAN: Minnesota 06:35:57 USAMAN: usa 06:36:03 USAMAN: middle of the country 06:36:15 USAMAN: North 06:36:28 Tomy Jeon: Nah, I want to go to the US of A. You can buy lots of cheap guitars on the internet there. 06:36:35 USAMAN: Very cold right now by your standards 06:36:48 Tomy Jeon: Well, better go now. Too late. 06:36:53 USAMAN: Kinda far from the equator 06:36:55 Tomy Jeon: Happy new year everyone. 06:37:03 Tomy Jeon: it's nearly 1... 06:37:11 USAMAN: Yea...Gotta go to work, its 5:30 am here 06:37:16 Tomy Jeon: I'll see you tomorrow maybe... 06:37:29 Tomy Jeon: Wow! 5:30? Are you a farmer or something? 06:37:37 USAMAN: Electrician 06:37:42 Tomy Jeon: Cool. 06:37:48 Tomy Jeon: See you later then. 06:37:54 USAMAN: Peace bro 06:37:56 Tomy Jeon: I'm tired 06:38:01 Tomy Jeon: Peace out! 06:38:01 USAMAN: Happy New Year 06:38:05 Vinod: Bye UsaMan 06:38:15 USAMAN: Later guys 11:04:44 Milenkovic Ivan: Hey guys, just stopped by briefly to wish you a Happy New Year! 18:41:40 Tomy Jeon: You asleep botoxfox? 18:42:02 ace_frehely: hello? 18:57:26 USAMAN: *slap* *slap* 18:57:39 USAMAN: *whip* 18:57:48 botoxfox: yo 18:57:54 USAMAN: sup 18:58:00 botoxfox: not much 18:58:02 botoxfox: bored 18:58:19 USAMAN: i think i have seen your name in the new blues solab 18:58:23 botoxfox: one hour into the new year over here 18:58:25 USAMAN: colab 18:58:33 botoxfox: nope 18:58:34 USAMAN: where u live 18:58:41 botoxfox: Norway 18:58:59 USAMAN: Minnesota, USA......its 5:58 pm 18:59:08 USAMAN: 3 18:59:09 USAMAN: 2 18:59:10 USAMAN: 1 18:59:15 USAMAN: Happy Newyear 18:59:36 USAMAN: brb ..gonna grab a beer 18:59:36 botoxfox: happeh new year indeed 18:59:48 botoxfox: mmm beer 19:00:11 USAMAN: indeed 19:00:29 USAMAN: just bought another new guitar 19:00:48 USAMAN: RGA121....499 usd...can you believe that ...mint 19:01:42 botoxfox: yeah, thatseems like a nice guitar 19:01:49 USAMAN: I splurged on myself this christmas.... 19:01:58 USAMAN: got a new used triamp as well 19:02:16 USAMAN: great neck 19:02:40 botoxfox: man I'm so skint right now 19:02:54 USAMAN: Skint? 19:02:58 botoxfox: need money! 19:03:02 USAMAN: Ah 19:03:10 USAMAN: what do you do for a living 19:03:15 botoxfox: nothing 19:03:31 botoxfox: just sitting at home practicing guiar 19:03:33 USAMAN: k what did you do? 19:03:44 botoxfox: well 19:03:54 botoxfox: I did go to school 19:04:05 USAMAN: k 19:04:15 USAMAN: Any plans for college 19:04:20 USAMAN: Music 19:04:22 botoxfox: then aI was a sausag maker aprpentice for 2 years 19:04:44 USAMAN: Im an electrician 19:05:07 botoxfox: so hows that for a living? 19:05:20 USAMAN: good...stay busy 19:05:31 USAMAN: 70,000 usd a year 19:05:31 botoxfox: hmm yeah 19:05:43 botoxfox: not bad 19:06:06 USAMAN: + what ever i do that the gov doesnt know about...electrical work 19:06:30 USAMAN: it a union job so the pay info is available anywhere 19:06:42 USAMAN: we all make the same 19:06:43 botoxfox: cool 19:07:07 USAMAN: So what lessons u workin on 19:07:20 botoxfox: none really 19:07:35 USAMAN: i have been doing a lot of muris stuff 19:07:51 botoxfox: just getting bsck to practice after an injury 19:07:52 USAMAN: and working on my theory 19:08:07 botoxfox: strained my picking hand 19:08:11 USAMAN: what happened.....your finger isnt in a sausage is it 19:08:18 USAMAN: lol 19:08:44 botoxfox: nah, don't think so atleast :? 19:09:07 USAMAN: how long you been a member 19:09:17 botoxfox: a year 19:09:26 Overkiller: 'ey! 19:09:27 USAMAN: i got like 2 months i think 19:09:31 botoxfox: hey there 19:09:32 USAMAN: sup man 19:09:53 Overkiller: nuthin' just chillin' lol 19:10:04 USAMAN: sssssshhhhhhh hes here stop talking about him 19:10:08 USAMAN: lol 19:10:20 Overkiller: 8) lol 19:10:33 USAMAN: where u from overkiller 19:10:41 Overkiller: Trondheim, Norway 19:10:45 Overkiller: you? 19:10:55 Overkiller: States? 19:10:58 USAMAN: another norwayite 19:11:01 USAMAN: y 19:11:04 USAMAN: Minnesota 19:11:05 Overkiller: k 19:11:08 Overkiller: 19:11:17 USAMAN: st paul exactly 19:11:21 botoxfox: we actually live in the same city 19:11:31 USAMAN: thats cool 19:11:40 USAMAN: small world 19:11:41 Overkiller: yeah :| unfortunately.... 19:11:44 USAMAN: lol 19:11:56 USAMAN: I would love to visit Norway 19:12:12 Overkiller: You're always welcome! lol 19:12:16 USAMAN: Thanks 19:12:26 botoxfox: it's a bit expensive tho 19:12:30 USAMAN: You guys need to visit Las vegas 19:12:44 Overkiller: why? 19:12:48 USAMAN: or New York 19:12:55 USAMAN: just a cool place to see 19:13:02 USAMAN: Fun 19:13:06 Overkiller: ah, ok^^ Yeah, why not? 19:13:08 Overkiller: 19:13:29 USAMAN: ever been to USA 19:13:31 USAMAN: ? 19:13:58 Overkiller: 8) actually not. 19:14:10 Overkiller: But one day... 19:14:17 botoxfox: me neither 19:14:48 USAMAN: I need to make it to Europe...Been across the Pacific to oz never the other way 19:15:06 USAMAN: That was fun 19:15:15 USAMAN: super long flight thoughj 19:15:16 Overkiller: hehe 19:15:37 Overkiller: When I get to Vegas, I shall NOT bring money! lol 19:15:41 USAMAN: lol 19:15:44 USAMAN: good idea 19:15:59 Overkiller: brb 19:16:00 USAMAN: i made a donation a couple months back 19:16:37 botoxfox: what kind of donation? 19:16:52 USAMAN: Gave to the dealer at a blackjack table 19:17:11 botoxfox: did u win? 19:17:14 USAMAN: nope 19:17:16 USAMAN: lol 19:17:24 Overkiller: typical <_< 19:17:28 USAMAN: he took me for several hundred 19:17:39 USAMAN: I have won in the past. 19:17:44 USAMAN: it can be done 19:17:47 Overkiller: how much? 19:18:03 USAMAN: i think 400 one day 19:18:09 USAMAN: and 150 the next 19:18:20 USAMAN: made me sad 19:18:25 USAMAN: but i had fubn 19:18:26 Overkiller: that's nice, but what did you loose? lol 19:18:28 USAMAN: fun 19:18:45 USAMAN: usd 19:18:49 Overkiller: How much have you lost 19:19:03 USAMAN: ive been there several times 19:19:08 Overkiller: ok 19:19:17 USAMAN: i have broken even roughly 19:19:21 Overkiller: I bet you lost more than you won, rught? 19:19:25 Overkiller: right* 19:19:29 USAMAN: its true 19:19:37 Overkiller: of course 19:19:42 botoxfox: that reminds me how much money I've wasted this past year 19:19:48 USAMAN: i have walked away with a free trip b4 19:20:07 Overkiller: nice 19:20:45 USAMAN: i look at it like ...everything costs money there....if im entertained for several hours its worth something ...plus you get "free " drinks 19:20:58 USAMAN: problem is a 150.00 drink better be good 19:21:13 USAMAN: really good 19:21:27 USAMAN: what is you main guitar guys 19:21:27 botoxfox: it better be 19:21:59 botoxfox: mine is an RG550 reissue 19:22:04 USAMAN: nice 19:22:10 USAMAN: and overkiller 19:22:16 Overkiller: huh? 19:22:27 USAMAN: guitar...see above 19:22:50 USAMAN: im loving my s2170 se-ntf 19:22:52 Overkiller: oh 19:23:19 USAMAN: just wish it had 24 frets 19:23:29 USAMAN: other than that its perfect 19:23:29 Overkiller: my guitar? A shitty little cheap guitar... but at least I can play on it. lol Saving up now... 19:24:02 USAMAN: as long as it has strings thats all thats important 19:24:15 USAMAN: how long you guys been playing? 19:24:24 USAMAN: im old 19:24:27 botoxfox: a 24 fret s is coming out next year 19:24:32 USAMAN: NO 19:24:38 USAMAN: dont tell me that 19:24:52 USAMAN: sadness overwhelms me 19:24:54 Overkiller: I'm a guitar n00b 19:25:19 USAMAN: i started 21 years ago 19:25:33 Overkiller: wow 19:25:41 USAMAN: my firsat guitar didnt even have a name 19:25:51 botoxfox: 29 April will be my 5th anniversary 19:26:02 botoxfox: for playing 19:26:04 USAMAN: it was a Ted Nugent looking hollow body like a 335 19:26:16 USAMAN: total piece of crap 19:26:32 USAMAN: it was missing parts...i had to make the bridge 19:26:50 USAMAN: intonation was shite 19:26:54 USAMAN: lol 19:27:07 USAMAN: but i learned on it 19:27:08 Overkiller: I've soon played for 3 years. yay me... :| 19:27:13 USAMAN: cool 19:27:33 USAMAN: stick with it its a great hobby....job....fun 19:27:48 USAMAN: learn theory no matter what wnyone tells you 19:28:01 USAMAN: its super important 19:28:38 USAMAN: i went for years and didnt know any theory......Now i do and its everything 19:29:16 USAMAN: its the difference between someone that plays guitar and someone that plays music 19:29:21 Overkiller: cool? I don't know shayt when it comees to guitar playing... 19:29:37 USAMAN: practice makes perfect...i still suck.... 19:29:43 USAMAN: but i try 19:30:03 USAMAN: I have never been very dedicated to it untill the last 4 years 19:30:14 USAMAN: now its all i want to do 19:30:54 Overkiller: How much in average do you play each day? Sry for my crappy english .. 19:31:06 USAMAN: learn the major scale backwards and forwards...think of it like learning a song... 19:31:13 USAMAN: a couple hours at least 19:31:19 Overkiller: ok 19:31:24 USAMAN: your english is great 19:31:36 USAMAN: havent heard you talk though...lol 19:31:49 Overkiller: really? thnx But I'm still not happy with it... 19:31:58 Overkiller: Oh, you don't wanna hear that! lol 19:32:06 USAMAN: My friend from Australia laughs at my accent 19:32:16 USAMAN: I dont think i have one of course 19:32:29 USAMAN: You do really well bud 19:32:45 Overkiller: Thank you 19:32:52 USAMAN: good sentence structure, a lot better than a lot of people 19:33:25 USAMAN: I only know English so you got one on me 19:33:35 Overkiller: Thank you, it means alot 19:33:46 Overkiller: hehe 19:34:25 USAMAN: Its always funny when someone does not have a good grip on how to put sentences together in your language 19:34:48 botoxfox: I speak finnish in addition to norwegian and english 19:34:49 Overkiller: haha, yeah 19:35:08 USAMAN: Also I have found that things mean different things in different cultures....example 19:35:09 Overkiller: You speak finnish? 19:35:13 USAMAN: nope 19:35:14 botoxfox: yup 19:35:19 USAMAN: i barely speak english 19:35:21 USAMAN: lol 19:35:25 Overkiller: lol 19:35:34 USAMAN: my friend from Oz 19:35:38 USAMAN: Australia 19:35:47 USAMAN: was going to a mall with me 19:35:57 USAMAN: there is a candy store in there named 19:36:10 Overkiller: ...breath... lol 19:36:16 USAMAN: Fanny Farmer....i thought it was innocent ..,,she laughed her head off 19:36:37 USAMAN: it really doesnt mean anything here. 19:36:53 USAMAN: I dont know about you guys but to her a fanny is in the front 19:37:02 USAMAN: get my drift 19:37:19 botoxfox: think I get it 19:37:23 Overkiller: lol 19:37:24 USAMAN: she was taking pics of the sign and laughing her head off 19:37:47 Overkiller: LOL I get it now, I'm a bit slow lol 19:37:50 USAMAN: lol 19:37:54 botoxfox: lots of that kind of stuff in japan 19:38:10 USAMAN: so you speak Japanese as well////// 19:38:16 botoxfox: no 19:38:23 USAMAN: oh 19:38:40 USAMAN: I was going to be really amazed 19:38:48 USAMAN: you should have said yes 19:38:52 botoxfox: just check out http://www.engrish.com 19:39:03 botoxfox: ok yes then 19:39:06 USAMAN: Engrish...rofl 19:39:16 USAMAN: 2 funny 19:39:53 USAMAN: Links dont seem to work from the chat window 19:40:01 USAMAN: it logs you out and in 19:40:15 botoxfox: hmm 19:40:18 USAMAN: i will check it out though 19:40:26 botoxfox: what browser do you use? 19:40:34 USAMAN: explorer 19:40:41 USAMAN: it may be me 19:41:01 USAMAN: if this computer had a leg it would kick me in the seeds 19:41:07 USAMAN: it hates me 19:41:22 USAMAN: and i know it 19:41:30 botoxfox: my computer deslikes me a lot too 19:41:37 USAMAN: beer break......brb 19:42:35 Overkiller: Come back sober! 19:42:42 USAMAN: So what is the weather like there....is it summer? 19:42:58 Overkiller: lol no, far away from that... 19:43:04 USAMAN: lol 19:43:08 botoxfox: dark 19:43:11 USAMAN: time zones screw with me 19:43:12 Overkiller: yup 19:43:26 USAMAN: its winter here..... 19:43:33 botoxfox: snow? 19:43:39 USAMAN: oh yes 19:43:41 Overkiller: It's almost spring soon... 19:43:50 botoxfox: no snow here 19:43:51 USAMAN: we are in the middle of winter 19:43:51 Overkiller: ...here in norway 19:44:13 USAMAN: its gonna be around -15 f tonight 19:44:19 Overkiller: botoxfox, what's up with the ":(" ? I hate snow 19:44:33 USAMAN: its not that bad.... 19:44:40 USAMAN: snowmobiles anyone 19:44:48 botoxfox: I like snow 19:45:12 USAMAN: I got a Yamaha vmax 19:45:21 Overkiller: it's disturbing... It's fun to throw snowballs at other people tho lol 19:45:27 USAMAN: 2004 19:45:29 USAMAN: I agree 19:45:42 USAMAN: just sold my ditch pickle 19:45:47 Overkiller: call me childish, but I like it lol 19:46:18 USAMAN: i suppose that means nothing 19:46:23 USAMAN: ditch pickle 19:46:35 Overkiller: ditch pickle? 19:46:45 USAMAN: An Arctic Cat snowmobile......they are painted green 19:47:00 USAMAN: ride in the ditches on the side of the road 19:47:03 Overkiller: oh^^ 19:47:07 botoxfox: brb, have to check plane bus schedules or whatever u call it 19:47:20 Overkiller: m'kay 19:47:34 USAMAN: mr...macky...m'kay 19:47:48 Overkiller: drugs are bad... m'kaay? lol 19:47:50 USAMAN: you get much usa tv 19:47:53 USAMAN: lol 19:47:57 USAMAN: yes you do 19:48:15 Overkiller: http://allabout-sp.net 19:48:25 USAMAN: they are taking a left down backa lackka dockka street 19:48:47 USAMAN: team america...movie ...seen it 19:48:50 Overkiller: what? 8) 19:48:51 USAMAN: ? 19:49:07 Overkiller: ah, Team America is awesome!! I love Trey and Matts work lol 19:49:15 USAMAN: they are brilliant 19:49:19 Overkiller: yep 19:49:31 Overkiller: They have signed onto season 15 of SP 19:49:43 USAMAN: i love how they do the canadians with the hinged heads 19:49:59 USAMAN: dirka dirka 19:50:03 Overkiller: lol yeah, that's hilarious 19:50:15 USAMAN: kick the baby..... 19:50:30 Overkiller: don't kick the baby KICK THE BABY! 19:50:38 USAMAN: cartman is my hero 19:50:58 Overkiller: yeah, lol he's just awesome! Screw you guys, I'm going home! 19:51:26 USAMAN: Ahhhh...you guys...home schooling kicks ass.. 19:51:34 Overkiller: Haha 19:52:00 Overkiller: All the South Park episodes are just awesome! Never dissapointing 19:52:09 USAMAN: I just saw the eposode with the visitors 19:52:15 botoxfox: south park rulz 19:52:19 USAMAN: agree 19:52:22 ace_frehely: no bevis and butthead are the coolest!!! 19:52:26 Overkiller: They took 'ur juuubs!! 19:52:31 USAMAN: those were funny 2 19:52:58 Overkiller: Yeah, Beavis and Butthead are also funny, but SP just takes the cake... Seriosly. 19:53:08 USAMAN: then they sick some metal hooba jube up yer butt.......chef 19:53:30 Overkiller: lol 19:53:33 USAMAN: anyway 19:53:46 USAMAN: Is it a new year yet in Norway 19:53:53 USAMAN: soon .... 19:53:56 USAMAN: 3 19:53:57 USAMAN: 2 19:53:58 Overkiller: http://allabout-sp.net/ is the best site to watch SP episodes 19:53:58 USAMAN: 1 19:54:06 USAMAN: cool 19:54:08 USAMAN: thanks 19:54:30 USAMAN: ever seen venture bros? 19:54:31 Overkiller: yeah, it was new year 2h ago 19:54:33 USAMAN: cartoon 19:54:38 USAMAN: oh 19:54:39 USAMAN: lol 19:54:45 Overkiller: nah, haven't. What's that? 19:54:50 USAMAN: its good ... 19:55:05 USAMAN: futurama 19:55:07 USAMAN: ? 19:55:20 Overkiller: of course 19:55:21 USAMAN: i am bender please insert girder 19:55:41 Overkiller: hehe 19:56:07 USAMAN: you ever visit andrews lessons 19:56:15 USAMAN: theory 19:56:27 Overkiller: some times, yeah... But not enough, tho lol 19:56:35 USAMAN: know the major scale 19:56:38 USAMAN: ? 19:56:50 Overkiller: yes, I think so 19:56:56 Overkiller: :? 19:57:05 USAMAN: dude.....its the roots 19:57:23 USAMAN: ever take lessons 19:57:26 botoxfox: sorry for being bad company 19:57:32 USAMAN: not at all 19:57:52 Overkiller: Yes, I do take lessons 19:58:00 Overkiller: lol 19:58:00 botoxfox: I've been awake for 21+hours now 19:58:01 USAMAN: I probably talk/ type 2 much 19:58:10 USAMAN: sweet 19:58:24 USAMAN: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...head falls on keyboard 19:58:31 botoxfox: so I'll think Ill call it a day 19:58:34 Overkiller: lol 19:58:49 botoxfox: c ya 19:58:50 USAMAN: take it easy man......nice to meet you 19:58:53 Overkiller: cya 19:59:00 Overkiller: Thnx for the chat m8 19:59:16 USAMAN: I should probably go 2 19:59:22 USAMAN: gotta sss 19:59:23 Overkiller: yah, me 2 19:59:25 Overkiller: 3 19:59:26 Overkiller: 2 19:59:27 Overkiller: 1 19:59:27 botoxfox: toodeloo 19:59:29 Overkiller: bye |
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