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Posted by: FretDancer69 Feb 2 2008, 06:06 AM

Hello Instructors. I was wondering if anyone was up for a lesson in the style of Michael Romeo. It would be amazing if we could get a lesson in the style of him.

Here are some cool links:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9QTg2VMqko

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PG2804ggsI0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaSrfJGXOUQ&feature=related

Posted by: FretDancer69 Feb 5 2008, 01:12 AM

So, anyone up for the challenge? ...

Posted by: OrganisedConfusion Feb 5 2008, 01:15 AM

I think what is important with power metal is the incredibly close synchronisation with the bass and keyboards. This could be captured in a Romeo lesson also.

Posted by: Tjchep Feb 5 2008, 01:18 AM

MEGA CHOPS!

Muris or Pavel are best suited for this I would think..

Posted by: FretDancer69 Feb 5 2008, 01:24 AM

agreed!

Posted by: UncleSkillet Feb 5 2008, 01:44 AM

In addition to Muris and Pavel, I think Marcus could be a good choose for this style as well. He is a Neoclassical God.

Posted by: shellshock1911 Feb 5 2008, 01:50 AM

Heres a Michael Romeo style lesson.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3644445489661495368&q=the+guitar+chapter&total=618&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

And about as real as it gets.

Posted by: fkalich Feb 5 2008, 01:54 AM

I listened to all three videos. I found nothing about him that was unique. Not one single thing. Why a lesson? I can give you one here. Play fast AP runs, pull the wammy some, and flll in some tapping. Done.

Posted by: FretDancer69 Feb 5 2008, 01:56 AM

Listen to Symphony X songs.

Posted by: OrganisedConfusion Feb 5 2008, 02:00 AM

He is an incredible metal guitarist that can synchronise incredibly quick runs with a keyboard harmonising. That is pretty special. The guy does have a lot of stuff about him that isn't unique but if you listen to some Symphony X songs you'll find them to be one of the best prog/power metal bands out there.

Posted by: shellshock1911 Feb 5 2008, 02:01 AM

Err, I would have to disagree even though I am not a HUGE fan of Romeo. He uses unique scales that you won't see in other guitarists for one, such as the Whole Tone, and Diminished. He uses a lot of extended chord arpeggios such as add9 and 11th chord, and sometimes creates them into tapping sequences. He modulates keys A LOT. He uses weird time signatures as well.

I've rarely seen him use the whammy.

Posted by: shellshock1911 Feb 5 2008, 02:01 AM

EDIT: Double post

Posted by: FretDancer69 Feb 5 2008, 02:15 AM

i could give you many Paul Gilbert, and Yngwie Malmsteen lessons right here too.

Posted by: Muris Feb 5 2008, 02:38 AM

I'll give it a try,can't promise when tho,too many requests lately

Posted by: chast Feb 5 2008, 02:41 AM

May I wish you good luck ?
I also would like to see a Michael Romeo lesson

Posted by: The Uncreator Feb 5 2008, 02:48 AM

Many people find his style unique and original, dont be so judgemental on the first listen, give Symphony X a listen, you might like them . Just look at all the reasons Shellshock listed, are those not enough for a lesson?

Posted by: Muris Feb 5 2008, 02:50 AM

I've found Romeo's LEAD playing a lot more unique than Page's,
with this statement I'm gonna run and hide now...see ya!!

Posted by: chast Feb 5 2008, 02:59 AM

But muris why do you hide ? You are a ninja

Posted by: Tjchep Feb 5 2008, 03:21 AM

I chuckled a bit actually .

Posted by: The Uncreator Feb 5 2008, 04:20 AM

Man i love page but Romeo > Page anyday

Posted by: Stevie·Ray·Vaughn Feb 5 2008, 04:23 AM

I love both, but IMO Page < Romeo, BUT Zeppelin > Symphony X

Posted by: FretDancer69 Feb 5 2008, 04:26 AM

no way man.... but i respect your opinion

Posted by: Stevie·Ray·Vaughn Feb 5 2008, 04:29 AM

Haha im just a big classic rock fan, although I love Symphony X too

Posted by: fkalich Feb 5 2008, 06:21 AM

right. whatever.

i gave him another listen. he's all yours.

Posted by: Juan M. Valero Feb 5 2008, 08:20 AM

Yeah, excelent, I will do this lesson Love Symphony X and Michael Romeo is a incredible musician with great skills !!!
I not sure if I can do this lesson as Muris, Pavel or Marcus but I try it and I wish you enjoy it
BTW I need to record my new lesson this week, maybe tomorrow so be patiente

Posted by: OrganisedConfusion Feb 5 2008, 11:08 AM

Led Zeppelin are my most disliked band so I wont comment lol. A Romeo style lesson would be awesome. Although it may be a task I'm sure Muris, Pavel or Marcus are up for the challenge as I think they are all Symphony X fans.

Posted by: Melvyn Feb 5 2008, 11:49 AM

Im a big fan of Romeo and his playing, a lesson in his style would be exactly what i need!

Saw Symphony X in november with dream theater, and they blew me away :|

Posted by: DeepRoots Feb 5 2008, 12:03 PM

was that in newport? Yeh symphony x were prety cool

Posted by: Muris Feb 5 2008, 05:42 PM

Thanks

Posted by: Owen Feb 5 2008, 06:04 PM

I love the controversy.

I'll just totally disagree with everyone and say I dont really like either band or player

Have I just walked into a no-go zone?

Posted by: Muris Feb 5 2008, 06:06 PM

Posted by: at lights end Feb 5 2008, 06:17 PM

love symphony x, and romeo's playing. that thing where he plays while the singer (i think it's russell?) covers his eyes, he still plays just as well!

i saw them touring with dream theater in october, hadn't listened to them much before, but the first thing i did after that concert was buy paradise lost.

Posted by: Tsarpf Feb 5 2008, 06:30 PM

Reading your post just sent somekind of anger 'waves' through my body, but when i read Owens, nothing happened, and his opinion is pretty much the same as yours... I'm just saying that you could say things like that more nicely..

... Oh well, you don't have to fawn me/him/her/us/they/anybody whatever.. O.O

p.s Sorry for the s*it load of ,,,'s

Posted by: SLASH91 Feb 5 2008, 07:14 PM

*cracks knuckles* are you sure about that, Owen

Posted by: Owen Feb 5 2008, 07:28 PM

Yes... I mean no!





To clarify, I dont inherently dislike Symphony X or Led Zep, both have spent some time on my mp3 player, I just cant really get into either band in a big sense, I think the music in both cases has a lot of talent invested in it though

Posted by: SLASH91 Feb 5 2008, 07:32 PM

I understand what you mean, Nice to know that you respect them for their talent though

Posted by: Juan M. Valero Feb 5 2008, 11:14 PM

Just say I'm working on this lesson ehehe, I'm writing the guitarpro so I hope next week it will be released !!!

Posted by: Tjchep Feb 5 2008, 11:19 PM

Sweet man!!

Cant wait!!

tj

Posted by: Juan M. Valero Feb 5 2008, 11:34 PM

mmm I think I will need 2 lesson, cos Romeo has a very interesting technique and too much tricks to pull in one lesson

Posted by: FretDancer69 Feb 6 2008, 01:25 AM

Awesome Juan! Cant wait, thank you very much!



Agreed. I like the way Owen expresses his opinions and likes/dislikes.

Posted by: swingline Feb 6 2008, 01:29 AM

Don't worry I can't stand to listen to Zepplin, my ears start to bleed. On second thought you better run and I'll be right behind you.

Posted by: fkalich Feb 6 2008, 01:45 AM

http://youtube.com/watch?v=BAj7DcSQeWY&feature=related

Posted by: FretDancer69 Feb 6 2008, 01:51 AM

No offense, but what does that have to do...?

Posted by: Muris Feb 6 2008, 02:58 AM

I DO like Led Zeppelin tho but thanks for support,appreciate it

Posted by: fkalich Feb 6 2008, 04:14 AM

I tell you when I think it is good. If not, within the bounds of accepted behavior on the forum (Kris's standards), I will tell you if I don't like it. I like people being honest to me, if it hurts or not, and I do the same.

EVH was great, did that lesson yesterday. Gilbert 2, fabulous. Others I have have done or will do, great. When I pass on one, it is when it is really not that unique from what I have done before, or just does not sound good to me, to my taste. But all in all you are one of my 2 favorite teachers (used to be top 3 but you moved up).

I am not saying do Page. Page is so ingrained in what came after Zep, I mean the is the deal, no he is not unique, not anymore. Sure was in the early 70's. Some guys really shaped music. Green Day, has a basis going back to Buddy Holly, as do most all beat bands. Buddy was sure unique in the 50's. And 1/3 of what went into making the Beatles, who also are ingrained in so much of what has come after them.

Personally, I would like to see a Skynyrd lesson. They don't have a unique sound? Well maybe to the extent that they are still imitated. Still, I have to feel a Skynyrd lesson such as like Free Bird would be a lot more popular than another same old same old.

Here is a guy from Norway playing that. This guy really rocks, I have watched his videos since he started putting them out. And read the comments. I think this guy may go somewhere.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGAthWseovs

Posted by: UncleSkillet Feb 6 2008, 04:55 AM

Come on! You can't be for real, are you? "Free Bird". Well maybe a slide guitar lesson (general usage), but I don't think anyone has 16 minutes to cover this song. No disrespect intended but that song goes on forever and I can't wait till it's over. Just not what I think of as a good example.

Posted by: fkalich Feb 6 2008, 05:03 AM

well I find that in general, stuff I like has zillion of hits on youtube, and stuff like Romeo, like as many as if some guy shows some video of his cat. Maybe not that much. For example I like the Killers. Far below the dignity of what most people on this forum would consider good music. One video has 4 million hits, another over 5 million. I think like most people, as silly and unsophisticated as we the masses are, and am comfortable with that.

I live in a college town of 30,000 students. I wonder how many I would have to ask before any one of them would know who this Symphony X even was. I hear Skynyrd and Zep still being played at their parties though.

Posted by: shellshock1911 Feb 6 2008, 05:14 AM

Go to Japan, you will hear plenty of Symphony X, Dream Theater, Malmsteen, etc, and no Skynyrd.

Posted by: The Uncreator Feb 6 2008, 05:17 AM

Youtube hits has nothing to do with how good people think a band is, what if people watch it and dont like it? I doubt ever person watched that video and liked it.

Posted by: shellshock1911 Feb 6 2008, 05:20 AM

Yea if you notice the ratio of views to comments/rates, you will see there is like 2000 times as many views as there is ratings, which most likely means a lot of people just clicked on it, watch like 2 seconds or whatever and then just left.

Posted by: FretDancer69 Feb 6 2008, 05:28 AM

Agreed!!!!

Posted by: fkalich Feb 6 2008, 05:31 AM

right. i guess my dog could really have sung the star spangled banner when I went to the grocery store, I mean, how can I be sure?

You know why I like Gabriel? Well I guess I have disclosed the other of my two favorites. Well, he does lessons on bands that people like, maybe not the most sophisticated guitarists, but who have a unique sound, indie type bands. I mean, sweep away, and ap away, fine, good luck. hardly anybody cares. people don't care. I know enough ap and sweeping and tapping from the lessons, I can figure the rest out for myself. anymore I look for unique sounds, I don't care if it is technically sophisticated. the sited need the ap, and whatever, but the tank is full, only so much you can do with that animal.

Posted by: shellshock1911 Feb 6 2008, 05:36 AM

Some people (including me) play for pure enjoyment, and don't care to impress anyone like you may want to. If the purpose for playing guitar for you is to impress others and that is the path you want to take, that is ok as well. And the most unique music you can find in progressive rock and metal, which is highly sophisicated. Sophiscated doesn't = bad. And many guitarists see guitar as a challenge.

EDIT: Music isn't a competition, everyone likes different stuff. Some people like 3 notes, some people like those 3 notes coming in at 33 notes per second arpeggios. I don't plan on taking music past recreation, so as long as I am enjoying it, I am fine.

Posted by: JukeboxHero Feb 6 2008, 05:47 AM

IMO Led Zeppelin was a really great band. Symphony X is a really great band. If i had to choose one i'd pick Led Zep. We're all entitled to our opinions. But I hate it when people compare guitarist because it has no point. In a month people will forget this conversation and go back to their own metal.

Posted by: fkalich Feb 6 2008, 05:49 AM

let me qualify this. if a band gets a zillion hits, AND i hear it played frequently on the college radio station (and by all accounts the Universtiy of Kansas has one of the top 2 or 3 college radio stations in the country), then I think I can assume it is not only good, but popular based on youtube hits.

Posted by: shellshock1911 Feb 6 2008, 05:54 AM

The U.S. is 4% of the world population, which unforunately, is just not the whole world. Mainstream U.S. stuff is in the U.S. only, whereas you can find less mainstream music being played all over the world.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjA5faZF1A8

5th most watched video in the world or something like that, and it isn't "popular" or "mainstream."

Posted by: fkalich Feb 6 2008, 06:11 AM

YES IT IS!!!!!! Even my little nieces know that song. Nearly everybody likes it. My oldest brother likes it, rare for him to like anything i like. I play that song myself. The guy i linked who plays Freebird also plays it on his youtube.

Thanks for supporting my argument.

I'm out of here, I think the powers that be want this to end. You can all say crap about me in my absence.

Posted by: FretDancer69 Feb 6 2008, 06:30 AM

jeez, i cant believe Michael Romeo did all this

Posted by: UncleSkillet Feb 6 2008, 06:46 AM

WoW!! That dogs got quite a BYTE!! I kind of see his point though, maybe. This link will take you there. To the truth...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXXkhQIvfhs&NR=1

Rock On, My Name is Joe

Posted by: FretDancer69 Feb 6 2008, 07:03 AM

lol

Posted by: Muris Feb 6 2008, 09:03 AM

Seems so

Fkalich,you are obviously NOT reading my posts carefully.
I was talking about Page's lead playing ONLY and NOT about bend LZ,songs,riffs,mainstream etc.

And I also said that it's my personal opinion,it's not the end of the world however.

Posted by: Owen Feb 6 2008, 06:37 PM

I dont think anyone's described me as a nice guy in my life, far from it, I'm probably seen as quite disagreeable most of the time, but yknow, call me what you like

I wouldnt say general popularity has much relevance on a site like this though, sure the majority of people might LOVE green day, but that doesnt mean that the majority of the members on this site conform to that particular musical taste. From general browsing I'd say that most GMCers have pretty irregular musical tastes (no offense meant guys ) so I dunno where that argument came from

Posted by: Muris Feb 6 2008, 06:53 PM