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Posted by: muris Nov 8 2007, 08:11 PM

Hi guys.


Yesterday I bought this awesome preamp on US ebay.
Gonna write review as soon as I get it and try it in details.
Had to share this with you!!

Posted by: tonymiro Nov 8 2007, 08:17 PM

Congrats Muris .

Cheers,
Tony

Posted by: muris Nov 8 2007, 08:18 PM

Thanks a lot Tony,once more!

Posted by: mattacuk Nov 8 2007, 08:22 PM

Mr Muris,
I was wondering what exactly is a preamp? I have always wondered but been to embaressed to ask!

Posted by: muris Nov 8 2007, 08:26 PM

Hi Matt

It's like part of a real amp(where channels,drive,clean,EQs are) but without power section.
So you need some power amp to use it live
while it works great in direct recording option.
And this one has MIDI so you can store like 123 sounds,
8 channel modes-from soft clean to Nu-Metal stuff,5 12ax7 tubes etc.
Can't wait to put my hands on it tho!!

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Nov 8 2007, 08:29 PM

great Muris!! but.. which preamp have you bought?


gabriel.-

Posted by: muris Nov 8 2007, 08:34 PM

Thanks Gabriel.

Mesa Triaxis Version 2.

Posted by: tonymiro Nov 8 2007, 08:47 PM

+1 but just to add that the preamp needs some form of frequency compensation/speaker simulation and load on the line out - without which you could blow the tubes. Most preamps have this but not all.

Cheers,
Tony

Posted by: muris Nov 8 2007, 08:54 PM

Very good point Tony,as always.
This one has 2 types of outputs,one for power amp and another one for direct recording.
Without these,cab simulator is truly needed.

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Nov 8 2007, 08:57 PM

Awesome - can't wait to hear some sound samples!

Posted by: muris Nov 8 2007, 08:59 PM

Same here Kris,thanks!

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Nov 8 2007, 09:06 PM

You already have a very inspiring sound - I have tweaked my delay settings because of you!

Posted by: muris Nov 8 2007, 09:08 PM

That's very kind Kris!
But wait till I add G-Force to it

Posted by: mattacuk Nov 8 2007, 09:25 PM

Sounds great!! Could i buy a cheaper pre-amp for my Vox AC15 do you know?

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Nov 8 2007, 09:55 PM

Looks very cool Muris - get us some sound samples already!

Matt, your AC15 already has a preamp built in - this would be kind of overkill, though if you have an effects loop you can plug one in there and bypass the AC15 preamp entirely.

I have to admit that I am not convinced there is much of a difference between a preamp and some multifx units in terms of what they do, except I imagine that preamps such as Muris' have very specific voicings to get a killer sound whereas multi fx are designed to be neutral (until you add amp and cab modelling). Can anyone throw some light on this?

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Nov 8 2007, 10:04 PM

That's great!! Let us hear some samples!

gabriel.-

Posted by: tonymiro Nov 8 2007, 10:49 PM

Assuming that we're talking about rack multis like g major/force, eventide eclipse then I'd say you're pretty much right Andrew. A pre like Muris's lovely new Triaxis will be specifically designed to be able to reproduce various Mesa amps - and others. I'm guessing a bit but I'm sure it can do a great Mark 1 and 2 and a Dual/Triple Rec. Quite a few high end pre's have tube circuitary along with state of the art electronics for midi etc.

Something like a G Force may have some preamp programmes but they'll be a digital emulation and passed through a digital circuit. To my way of thinking a quality rack multi effects really excels usually at things like time and modulation type effects like reverb, echo, chorus and flanging etc. For eq and compression my preference there would be to a separate rack eq and rack compressor generally. (Anyone mention Neve .)

There's of course one or two multis like the Eclipse that can also do eq and compression well though:



Daer Santi,
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(Well it's got to be worth a try )
Cheers,
Tony

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Nov 8 2007, 10:59 PM

Thanks!

Let me know if the Santa thing works out ...

Posted by: Wallimann Nov 8 2007, 11:25 PM

Nice!!!!
I wonder if you won the one I was bidding on? :-)

Posted by: muris Nov 9 2007, 12:22 AM

You were bidding too??
Guy's name is Aaron,is that the one?

Posted by: Wallimann Nov 9 2007, 12:25 AM

No, that's not me...
I was probably on another one...
Can't wait for the samples!

Posted by: muris Nov 9 2007, 12:33 AM

Ok

Will post few as soon as I get it tho!!

Posted by: Unleash-The-Shred Nov 9 2007, 01:04 AM

Awesome, Mesa is a great company.

Posted by: muris Nov 9 2007, 01:18 AM

Absolutely!!

And combined with 2:90 power amp that I already have,
comes like Dual Rectifier.

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Nov 9 2007, 01:21 AM

Ahhhh ... awesome combination!

Posted by: tonymiro Nov 9 2007, 01:31 AM

I'd say better as it can do the Dual Rec bit and so much more. Sure you're going to have hours of fun with it Muris especially when you get the G Force added .

Cheers,
Tony

Posted by: muris Nov 9 2007, 01:34 AM

Thanks Tony,sure I will!!

Posted by: Unleash-The-Shred Nov 9 2007, 01:44 AM

I've always wanted a Triple Recto.

Posted by: Owen Nov 9 2007, 02:28 AM

Congrats Muris, looks cool

I wanted one since I saw them Price is overkill though and I dont think my playing would do them justice

Posted by: muris Nov 9 2007, 07:24 AM

Thanks Owen.

Mesa gear is truly top notch,and killer with the price as well

Posted by: WTN Nov 12 2007, 06:39 AM

Great preamp Muris. Great company indeed. There are just a couple of stores in Houston that handle their products. I got jacked around by two of them. I write a letter to Randy Smith - the president/founder of Mesa. He calls me on the phone to make things right. I ended up buying a Mesa Tremoverb off of ebay and Randy had a great customer rep from Mesa call me. They sent me a complete set of new Mesa tubes for my used Tremoverb - and these are not cheap. Absolutely amazing. When will it arrive Muris? We are waiting to hear it.

Posted by: muris Nov 12 2007, 06:46 AM

Thanks.

It shall arrive in few weeks I hope.
And Smith is awesome guy,founder of many cool features regarding to tube world.
Odd he had to leave Mesa and start his own company.
But still Randall amps are great,it's just that Mesa is more famous I believe.

Posted by: Hisham Nov 12 2007, 06:57 AM

congrat muris

Posted by: muris Nov 12 2007, 07:02 AM

Thanks mate

Posted by: WTN Nov 12 2007, 07:15 AM

Muris,

Randall Smith (Mesa) and Don Randall (Randall amps) are two different folks.

Posted by: muris Nov 12 2007, 07:17 AM

Man,have I missed that????!!!!!?????

Posted by: Milenkovic Ivan Nov 21 2007, 06:37 PM

Hej Muris, cestitke na TriAxis-u. Nadam se da ce biti nekih semplova! AKo nije problem reci malo detaljnije koju poweramp sekciju koristis i koji kabinet bi isao uz to. Hvala

Posted by: Smells Nov 21 2007, 07:30 PM

?

Posted by: Muris Nov 21 2007, 08:44 PM

It's sort of our local type of language but I'm gonna answer in english.

Still haven't got Triaxis,bought it recently,should be here in few days I hope.
Not sure of preamp/sound section but I guess all 8 are awesome
I have Mesa 2:90 poweramp and I run it on 2 x 12 custom cab ,Celestion GT-100 speakers.
Gonna post some sound clips for sure.

Posted by: Milenkovic Ivan Nov 22 2007, 12:14 AM

Again sorry for the local language. Ill write in english, respectivly to the other members.

Transaltion of my earlier post would be :

Hay Muris, congratulations on Triaxis. I hope there will be some samples soon. If not a problem tell me in little detail what poweramp section are you using and what cab would go along with that. Thanks

Posted by: tonymiro Nov 22 2007, 01:42 AM

Hope it does mate - sod's law is that it will arrive the day after you leave for Egypt . (Hope it arrives BEFORE you go though .)

You're much more patient then I am though: I'd be tearing my hair out by now .

Cheers,
Tony

Posted by: WTN Nov 22 2007, 02:13 AM

Might as well wait until the TC Gforce arrives too before giving us some samples - might take you a while to figure out how these work - like I said before, you might have to put your girl friend on the back burner for a while.

Posted by: Muris Nov 22 2007, 02:46 AM

Thanks for support Tony!!

Yeah,looks like I've got used to waiting pretty well
but I'm still reading manuals in a mean while.

Don't think I could get it before Egypt tho,
Triaxis is already at my friend's in Vienna and he's waiting for G-Force to arrives as well,
then he'll be shipping it all together my way.

So I'll probably put a grin on my face when I get home from Egypt.

Posted by: The Uncreator Nov 22 2007, 03:50 AM

Cant wait to hear the lessons with the new toy, congratulations Muris

Posted by: botoxfox Nov 22 2007, 08:28 AM

Congrats Muris

Posted by: Muris Nov 22 2007, 08:32 AM

Thanks guys

Posted by: tonymiro Nov 22 2007, 09:58 AM

Something extra nice to look forward to coming home to then Muris .

And have a safe and enjoyable trip as well .

Cheers,
Tony

Posted by: Muris Nov 22 2007, 03:59 PM

Thank you Tony

Posted by: Juan M. Valero Nov 22 2007, 04:07 PM

Oh !!!!! Looks awesome, I wish heard how it sounds

Congratulations Muris

Posted by: Muris Dec 12 2007, 02:22 PM

Thanks Juan.

Few more days to get this baby in working shape,
gave it to el. tech. guy to change power supply INSIDE of unit,
converter I got isn't strong enough unfortunately
But I played it few hours before I noticed converter got too hot,
sounds as hell indeed!!
And what surprised me the most,clean sounds are amazing too
along with Mesa's well known Hi-Gain stuff.

Posted by: tonymiro Dec 12 2007, 03:02 PM

Sad to hear about the external converter/transformer Muris but all in all an internal one will look better .
Hope you get it back from the tech real soon .

Cheers,
Tony

Posted by: Muris Dec 13 2007, 12:40 AM

Hope the same Tony,thanks for support!!

Posted by: Muris Jan 16 2008, 12:43 AM

So I finally managed this power issue and got proper voltage converter,100watts!!

And since I http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=10716&st=0 practice Marcus's Neoclassical lesson I recorded one take,
this piece is fast as hell,there are tons of mistakes I did
but here it is anyhow

 Lavendel_Lesson_Triaxis_Clip.mp3 ( 355.92K ) : 268


Now,I recorded it dry since I haven't got G-Force yet but among efxs
like chorus,reverb,delay etc I'm missing Noise Reduction a lot atm!.

You know I like pretty heavy sound here and there
and I get bit of noise when I dial turbo high-gain settings
so I used about 50-60% of gain,to keep it clear.
And it is LD2 yellow mode,not heaviest one.

This piece of gear is real machine,clean sounds are just amazing tho,
will post more as soon as possible!!!

Cheers

Posted by: Smells Jan 16 2008, 12:46 AM

wow! sounds really nice m8, bet you cant w8 to get the whole lot together

Excellent job on Marcus`s lesson as well!!

Posted by: Muris Jan 16 2008, 12:56 AM

Well,G-Force has been shipped from Canada almost 2 moths ago

I AM kind of worried about it,don't have idea what is it about

And can't wait to mix it all together,yep

Thanks Chris!!

Posted by: Smells Jan 16 2008, 01:01 AM

eeek 2 months!! are you not able to contact the couriers at all?

Posted by: Muris Jan 16 2008, 01:04 AM

Yeah

Well I have tracking number guy gave me,he called his post office a week ago tho
and they said that item should be in place till Jan. 16th.

And today is 15th,right?

All I see when I enter code at CanadaPostWeb is this
"Item left Canada and it's on its way to location"

Inspiring ha?

Posted by: preownedguitar Jan 16 2008, 01:11 AM

Sounds great Muris. Exept for the shipping from canada thing.

Posted by: Smells Jan 16 2008, 01:12 AM

Do they not know who you are!!!!???

well, fingers crossed you get it soon m8

Posted by: Tjchep Jan 16 2008, 01:22 AM

Man, medium gain, dry and sounding like that!

Very nice.

tj

Posted by: Juan M. Valero Jan 16 2008, 08:07 AM

OMG !!!!! this is AWESOME !!!!! Excelent sound and excelent playing
Muris, you are great !!!

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Jan 16 2008, 01:23 PM

Wow, great foundation for your new sound - and of course some awesome playing Muris

Posted by: Wallimann Jan 16 2008, 01:30 PM

Wow...
I'm very impressed by the sound clip..
Excellent piece of gear my friend!

Posted by: MickeM Jan 16 2008, 01:30 PM

GASP really powerful sound!


EDIT: Exchanged my "wow", was a bit too many wows in a row

Posted by: Muris Jan 16 2008, 04:38 PM

Thanks guys!!

Posted by: Crazyfret Jan 16 2008, 05:02 PM

Great sound from your new gear.

I couldn't tell where you made the mistakes in Marcus's lesson!!! I suppose its a sign of a good musician

Posted by: Muris Jan 16 2008, 05:05 PM

Ohh,there are many,trust me,you can bet on that!!

Thanks tho,glad you like the sound.

Posted by: MickeM Jan 16 2008, 05:10 PM

Since you got it from he US it's 110V, right, or did you manage to fet a 230V unit, or just simply... how did you solve the electricity?

Posted by: Muris Jan 16 2008, 05:18 PM

Good question MickeM.

Yes, I got 110v version and first I did was getting power conditioner(adapter type).
It was 50watts strong (Triaxis needs 30watts tho) but it got hot too much.
Guess it wasn't 50wats strong after all,don't believe in everything they say.

Then I wanted to change tranformator INSIDE the unit but mission impossible,
220v trafo would be much bigger than current one and impossible to fit inside.
Mesa did really amazing job inside the box,take a loot at the photo,
too many things and all in just 1HE

And finally I got only tranformator 100wats strong to convert 220v to 110v.
We made a box for it and that's it.

Posted by: Paul Coutts Jan 16 2008, 05:45 PM

ooooo! looks sweet! can't wait for a review and sound clips!

Posted by: at lights end Jan 16 2008, 05:59 PM

as if he didn't sound amazing enough already...

can't wait to hear it!

Posted by: Toni Suominen Jan 16 2008, 06:16 PM

That's an awesome tone, congrats on the new gear Muris!!

Posted by: MickeM Jan 16 2008, 06:27 PM

Thanks for the explanation

Posted by: Muris Jan 16 2008, 06:30 PM

Anytime

Posted by: Muris Jan 26 2008, 06:26 PM

Quick update,I got new tubes(8 EH 12ax7) and retube it.

G-Force is coming in about 2 hours,gonna have some fun reading manuals etc

Posted by: Milenkovic Ivan Jan 27 2008, 02:55 AM

We want reviews, we want reviews!!

Posted by: Muris Jan 27 2008, 02:58 AM

This G-Force is space shuttle

It took me more than an hour to actually send signal into it from Triaxis
Sooo many options,I'm acting lika a kid atm

Took a pic with my cell,sorry for bad quality


P.S. Still having some noise,gonna clean tube sockets tomorrow

Posted by: Juan M. Valero Jan 27 2008, 08:22 AM

hey, looks wonderfull... but try focusing better

(GAS increasing )

Posted by: JVM Jan 27 2008, 08:44 AM

Okay now we need to hear more Muris!

Posted by: Muris Jan 27 2008, 08:53 AM

That's not about focus,my hands are shaking all the time,that's all

Anyhow,I recorded few samples using these 2 pieces of gear,line recording tho,
can't wait to run this through 2:90 and cab

 Sample_1_Volume_Pot.mp3 ( 1.09MB ) : 769


 Sample_2__Clean_wDelay.mp3 ( 1.02MB ) : 644


 Sample_3__Bad_Love_Intro.mp3 ( 272.43K ) : 665


 Sample_4__Weird_Synth_Lead.mp3 ( 202.39K ) : 503


 Sample_5__Funny_Mojo_Oro.mp3 ( 366.1K ) : 576


 Sample_6__Harmonizer.mp3 ( 342.88K ) : 547


 Sample_7__You_Name_It.mp3 ( 678.03K ) : 589


 Sample_8__Slow_Attack.mp3 ( 631.2K ) : 554


 Sample_9__JP_Riffing.mp3 ( 256.96K ) : 772


There you go.

Posted by: preownedguitar Jan 27 2008, 09:05 AM

Sounds good. What does the G-Force do?

Posted by: Muris Jan 27 2008, 09:08 AM

Thanks.

G-Force offers effects while main sound shaping is inside Triaxis(preamp).

Posted by: preownedguitar Jan 27 2008, 09:10 AM

Ah I see, I found it, really expensive tho. Was triaxis worth the money?

Posted by: JVM Jan 27 2008, 09:10 AM

WOW muris! Sounds awesome!!!!

Posted by: Muris Jan 27 2008, 09:12 AM

Absolutely,I got it used on eBay,nice price.

Thanks JVM,glad you liked it

Posted by: JVM Jan 27 2008, 09:22 AM

So Muris enlighten me. How does this thing compare to a tube amp head? You can use this live right? What functions as compared to a head does this not serve, or does it serve in addition to. Just curious O.O

Posted by: Muris Jan 27 2008, 09:32 AM

Well,you can use it for gig if you are going straight into mixer/PA system.
These two units together don't have "amp" section,
so if you wanna play it on guitar cab,then you need power amp.
Comparing to tube head....as I said,no amp section but there are millions of sounds,midi supported.

Posted by: Juan M. Valero Jan 27 2008, 09:35 AM

amazing sound !!!! I love your toys

Posted by: Muris Jan 27 2008, 09:37 AM

Thanks Juan,wish you the same piece of gear one day,or something similar in a meanwhile.

Posted by: preownedguitar Jan 27 2008, 09:37 AM

Figuring you've played on a good tube amp before, how are the dynamics when playing it? Like the response a tube amp would have. Some seem a little too artificial when playing and make you have to almost alter your timing/technique etc. to sound right. Also, can you just plug guitar into triaxis and use headphones right from triaxis?

Posted by: Muris Jan 27 2008, 09:41 AM

Ok,this is how it's all routed.
Guitar into Triaxis,fx loop to G-Force and back,then with "recording" outputs into audio card.
There are 2 recording outputs(reasonable) so you can plug headphones there.
I haven't and I wouldn't cause I plug my headphones into PC where whole sound in patched,same deal.
You would need converter jacks for that,female stereo into 2 male mono jacks.
About feel,once more,there is no "amp" section here,only preamp.
BUT feel is amazing,nonetheless.

Posted by: Juan M. Valero Jan 27 2008, 10:25 AM

yeah, maybe one day !!!!

Posted by: MickeM Jan 27 2008, 01:11 PM

Now a G-force too! Congratulations on your great setup now!

Posted by: Dejan Jan 27 2008, 01:50 PM

Wow! nice toys, I like the sound, and I guess it is just a tiny part of possibilities you discovered so far

Posted by: Muris Jan 27 2008, 07:32 PM

Thanks guys,thanks a lot

Well yeah,all I did was simple and random browsing through presets/users on both units
And as far as I can see,editing isn't that hard.
COOL thing on G-Force is that you can recall per example only chorus from some preset/user
and add it into user sound you're making,same with all other efxs.
Like Warmoth in effects I would say,make your own sound from already made parts/efxs.

Posted by: Toni Suominen Jan 27 2008, 07:38 PM

Those sound samples sound really cool Muris!

Posted by: Muris Jan 27 2008, 07:52 PM

Glad you like it Toni,thanks a lot

Posted by: Muris Jan 27 2008, 11:42 PM

I connected it all,haven't tried it with cab cause it's to late atm to rock the house
but first thing tomorrow morning

Posted by: RandomVictim Jan 27 2008, 11:58 PM

the volume pot sounds fantastic! they all sound really great, congrats and good luck with your new gear

Posted by: Muris Jan 28 2008, 12:04 AM

Thanks

It's almost like a child getting some candies,tooo excited

Posted by: micpon Jul 6 2008, 01:57 PM

Hi Muris,
I am curious about your basic Triaxis settings. Do you use the presets or do you have created new sets?


regards Michael

Posted by: Muris Varajic Jul 6 2008, 02:12 PM

Hi Michael.

Presets are usually not of great use
cause each of us plays on different guitar,amp,cab etc.
So I create each sound individually
but not from zero,I take some preset which sounds
closer to what I'm looking for and then I edit it.

Posted by: micpon Jul 6 2008, 05:11 PM

Hi again Muris

do you connect your midi foot-control to your Triaxis with connection "midi thru" to G-Force "midi in" or directly to G-force. Which way do you find is the best?


Michael

Posted by: Jesse Jul 6 2008, 05:51 PM

Most stupid question: What is a pre amp?

Posted by: micpon Jul 6 2008, 06:23 PM

Hi Jesse

please read Muris explanation on page 1.


regards,

Michael

Posted by: Muris Varajic Jul 6 2008, 09:25 PM

I go to MIDI IN on Triaxis and then via MIDI THRU to G-Force.
But I guess it'd be the same if I connect it otherwise,
G-Force and then Triaxis.