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Jul 25 2013, 01:35 PM
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For a while, I've had this tune stuck in my head which I identified was from a bunch of youtube videos that I watched something like two years ago, so here's what I came up with. If I describe the music, its sort of like tenacious D meets Green day or something like that
 My friend did the drums for me, I just cleaned them up a bit so they fit better with the mix, I don't know how he recorded or rendered the tracks, its his thing, not mine  the sound of superior or ez drummer is too artificial for me, so I don't use those The bass I did myself and the rhythm guitars, I still need some solo ideas, and I'm gonna be adding a bridge in there somewhere. It goes like chorus verse chorus verse and that's pretty much it for now Do comment and give suggestions! https://soundcloud.com/sam-ryan-stormrage/work-in-progress EDIT: Oh, and please do suggest stuff to improve the tone of the guitars (both clean and distorted), because this isn't a final mix, its nowhere near final
This post has been edited by sammetal92: Jul 25 2013, 01:36 PM |
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Jul 25 2013, 02:56 PM
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Hi Sam! Congrats on creating your own music man!
I think that this is a great first step. You already have 2 important sections for the song: Verse & Chorus. I think that now you have to work on structure and define which other parts are you going to add to this one. Normally, you should add an introduction, a second verse that could be a bit different (maybe just with a different arrangement) and then a part C and/or solo section. I recommend you to analyze some of your favorite songs to know what structures are used on them and at first copy one of this structures, it's the best way to start. Tempo could be increased a bit, I think that the groove is too slow, maybe if you add 3 or 5 bpm, everything will sound tighter. Regarding guitar tone, I think that it's good, you could equalize it a bit or add a multiband compressor because sometimes I hear some bass frequencies that saturate a bit. I can hear the bass very well, give it more volume & compression, and don't forget to exaggerate the frequencies around 1.5 Hz and 2.5 Hz to get definition. -------------------- My lessons
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Jul 25 2013, 04:04 PM
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QUOTE (sammetal92 @ Jul 25 2013, 11:58 AM)  Comrpessors have always confused me I guess I'll learn by experimenting I use Reaper's own EQ plugin, if you know another good EQ plugin, do tell And I'll boost those frequencies. I was thinking about going to 110BPM or 120BPM, right now its 100BPM. What do you think? And thanks for listeining  You should check Tony Miro's thread about compressors: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...showtopic=42670 https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...showtopic=42688 I think that you should experiment with both tempos, maybe record both verse and chorus over it and check both versions after some time of resting your ears. You can post them here if you want. -------------------- My lessons
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Jul 25 2013, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Jul 25 2013, 03:04 PM) You should check Tony Miro's thread about compressors: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...showtopic=42670 https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...showtopic=42688 I think that you should experiment with both tempos, maybe record both verse and chorus over it and check both versions after some time of resting your ears. You can post them here if you want. Changing tempo is very easy in Reaper 
This post has been edited by sammetal92: Jul 25 2013, 04:10 PM |
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Jul 25 2013, 04:14 PM
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QUOTE (sammetal92 @ Jul 25 2013, 12:06 PM) Changing tempo is very easy in Reaper yeah! but it's not as easy as defining the best tempo for a track.
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Jul 26 2013, 11:50 AM
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Very nice song!
I think you have got almost all the elements you need to complete a really cool song. Every song starts with something, a verse, riff, chorus or vocal line etc. You have got all the elements needed here. What I notice first hand when listening the song for the first time : * Drums/groove doesn't match the guitar perfectly. Try re-recording guitars to match the groove the drummer is playing, you should be able to feel it by temporarily making the drum track very loud while recording and really concentrating on the kick and snare drums. Maybe experiment with adding a bit of palm muting here and there to make the distortion part more dynamic. * Bass guitar is hard to hear but I think you could develop the line just a bit more. For example, for this type of verse it is good to have a "flowing" bass line. For example, playing straight 8th notes and then catching accents you do on guitar when changing chords. Do you have a possibility to record completely dry bass? What bass players do when recording is to use a DI unit and go straight to the mixer (preamp). That way you can capture completely dry signal of your bass straight from the bass guitar. Once you have that signal, you can add compression and EQ in your DAW and you should be good to go. That signal will sound excellent and be very good for mixing. Having bass go through some modeling/cab plugin can only make it very muddy and lower sound quality significantly. I haven't yet heard a good bass guitar plugin that can work "on its own". What people do is mix the DI (dry) signal with that colored plugin tone. DI gives the clarity and body to the sound and plugin (or amp recording) gives color. Experiment a bit and see how it goes. Once you have the groove part of the song fixed, you are only missing vocals and some possible bridge section for the song. Very good work - please keep us updated on this one! -------------------- For GMC support please email support (at) guitarmasterclass.net
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(and maybe my sounds wouldn't work for your guitar...)You have to go through all the tone tweaking like I had to. 
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Jul 26 2013, 01:03 PM
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Okay so I took a lot of opinions. So this is what I changed:
. Increased tempo from 100 BPM to 110 BPM. . Made four distorted rhythm guitar tracks instead of two. . Put compressors on each of all eight guitar tracks. . Made a bridge and a solo section (the solo isn't done yet, this one is without the actual solo). . Cut the bass in the distorted rhythm guitars a bit, and boosted the bass guitar frequencies with EQ. . Fine tuned EQ settings for all the guitar tracks. . Added a bit of reverb to both distorted and clean guitars. Give it a listen and tell me what you guys think of it now and what else I can do to improve https://soundcloud.com/sam-ryan-stormrage/rock-project EDIT: Bogdan: Thanks for the listen and the feedback! I tried to line up the tracks, but they do get a bit out of sync when you listen to what you've recorded, I've noticed that. No matter how good my timing is, I always have to adjust it a bit (and I always practice with a metronome).I don't really have a bass guitar, I just used a plugin to change my guitar lines into bass lines  that's what the Ghetto Bass plugin does for me. Like I recorded as one normally records and I played the bass line as it was supposed to be played in my mind over the music, but the GhettoBass plugin converted the tone 12 semitones down with less pick attack.Ville: Thanks man, I'll try that plugin out
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